Social Security earnings limit confusion - does pre-retirement 2025 income count toward $22,340 limit?
I'm planning to retire and start taking SS benefits in December 2025 (turning 63 in November). I know it's before my FRA and there's that $22,340 earnings limit for 2025. My question is: do they count what I've already earned January-November BEFORE I start collecting? I'll have made around $58,000 by then from my full-time job, so if they count the whole year's income, I'll be way over the limit right from the start. Does the earnings test only apply to months AFTER I begin collecting benefits? I'm really hoping they don't look at my pre-retirement income in 2025 because otherwise my benefits would be reduced significantly. Anyone deal with this situation before?
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Taylor Chen
Good question! For the year you first retire, Social Security applies a monthly earnings test rather than the annual test. So for 2025, they'll only look at your earnings AFTER you start collecting benefits. Since you're planning to retire in December, they'll only evaluate your December earnings against a monthly limit (which would be $22,340 ÷ 12 = about $1,862 per month). Your January-November earnings won't affect your benefits at all. Just make sure you report your retirement to SSA when you apply.
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Avery Saint
•That's a huge relief! So even though I'll have earned way more than $22,340 during Jan-Nov, none of that matters as long as I don't earn more than $1,862 in December after I start collecting? That's fantastic news. I was worried my first year of benefits would be reduced to almost nothing.
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Keith Davidson
When I retired, they still counted all my earnings for that year and took back most of my benefits!! Call them directly to make sure. SS rules are so complicated.
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Taylor Chen
•That doesn't sound right. According to SSA policy, there's a special rule for the first year of retirement. They use a monthly earnings test rather than the annual test. Did you notify them that you retired mid-year? Sometimes if you don't formally report your retirement, they'll apply the annual test by mistake.
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Ezra Bates
My sister just went through this last year! They definitely only counted her earnings after she started collecting. She retired in October but had already earned like $60k for the year, and it wasn't a problem at all. Just make sure you tell them you're retiring when you apply for benefits.
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Ana Erdoğan
To expand on what others have said, this is covered under what SSA calls the "special earnings limit rule" or sometimes the "first year rule." In your first year of retirement, you get to use the monthly earnings test instead of the annual test. For 2025, you can receive full benefits for any month you earn $1,862 or less (that's $22,340 ÷ 12) AND you don't perform "substantial services" in self-employment. SSA considers substantial services as working more than 45 hours a month in self-employment. So as long as you're truly retired in December, and don't earn more than $1,862 that month, your January-November earnings won't affect your benefits at all. In 2026, they'll switch to looking at your annual earnings.
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Keith Davidson
•So wait do they take $1 for ever $2 you go over PER MONTH in the first year, or per year? This is so confusing! The SS website isn't clear at all.
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Ana Erdoğan
•In your first year of retirement, they apply the $1 for $2 reduction only to months where you exceed the monthly limit ($1,862 in 2025). So if you retire in December but earn $2,862 that month (which is $1,000 over the limit), they would withhold $500 from your benefits ($1 for every $2 over). They would not look at your January-November earnings at all.
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Sophia Carson
My husband and I JUST dealt with this!!! We tried calling Social Security for months to confirm exactly how this works and kept getting disconnected or waiting HOURS. Finally used this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) and got through to SSA in 20 minutes after trying for WEEKS on our own. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU The agent confirmed exactly what others are saying - they only count earnings AFTER you start collecting benefits in your first retirement year. Such a relief because my husband had already earned over $45k before retirement.
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Avery Saint
•Thanks for the tip! I've been trying to get through to SSA for a more specific answer about my situation and keep getting disconnected. I'll check this out, because I really want to confirm this directly with them before I make any final decisions.
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Elijah Knight
I thINK they look at ALL your earnings for the year!!!!! I got hit with this last year and they took back most of my payments. The SS office said I earned too much for the year even though I retired in August!!! So frustrated with the whole system!!!! 😡😡😡
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Ana Erdoğan
•It sounds like there might have been a misunderstanding or error in your case. Did you specifically tell SSA that you retired in August? Sometimes they don't apply the monthly test automatically - you need to inform them that you've retired. If you believe they made a mistake, you can request a reconsideration of their decision. You have 60 days from receiving the notice to appeal.
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Elijah Knight
•MAYBE I didn't make it clear enough??? The paperwork is so confusing!! I just said I wanted to start benefits in August, I don't remember if they specifically asked if I was retiring then. TOO LATE now I guess, already spent all of 2024 with reduced benefits because of this!!!
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Brooklyn Foley
Lots of confusion on this thread. Let me share the EXACT rule from SSA: "In the first year that you retire, we use a monthly earnings test which only applies to the months after you retire. Even if you earn more than the yearly limit before you retire, you will receive payments for months after you retire, if your monthly earnings are under the monthly limit." So if you retire in December 2025, they would only look at your December earnings, and you'd be subject to a monthly limit of about $1,862. Your January-November earnings would not affect your benefits at all, even if you earned $100,000 before December. However - important note - you must be truly "retired" which means no longer performing substantial services in your job. For wage earners, this means you've ended your employment relationship. For self-employed, it means working less than 45 hours per month in your business.
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Avery Saint
•Thank you for the detailed explanation and quoting the actual rule! I'll be completely retired - last day at work will be Nov 30th, and I'll apply for benefits to start in December. I might pick up some very part-time holiday season work in December (maybe 20 hours total for the month), but will make sure it's under the $1,862 monthly limit.
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Ezra Bates
Wait isn't the earnings limit going up for 2025? I thought I saw somewhere it was going to be more than $22,340?
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Brooklyn Foley
•You're right to question this. The 2025 limit hasn't been officially announced yet. The $22,340 figure is likely an estimate based on previous COLA increases. The actual 2025 limit will be announced in October 2024, and it will probably be a bit higher depending on the COLA for 2025. For planning purposes though, the $22,340 estimate is reasonable.
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Keith Davidson
dont forget they also look at how many months before u reach FRA... the earnings limit is different in the year u reach full retirement age too
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Avery Saint
•Good point. I won't reach my FRA until 2029, so I'll have the lower earnings limit for several years. I'll need to be careful about any part-time work I might do after officially retiring.
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