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Social Security earnings limit confusion for seasonal self-employment - $22,320 yearly or monthly calculation?

I turned 65 last month and want to apply for Social Security even though my FRA is 67. Here's my situation - I run a small lawn care business (just me) as an LLC and only work April through September each year. I'm totally confused about how the earnings limit works for seasonal self-employment. Does the $22,320 yearly earnings limit get divided by 12 months, meaning I can only make about $1,860 per month? Or can I earn the full $22,320 during my 6-month work season? I've also heard something about a 45-hour per month rule for self-employed people on Social Security. Is that accurate? Would I need to track my hours mowing lawns? I'm expecting to make about $28,000 during the 6 months I work. Will SS take back benefits for the entire year, or just during months I'm working? Any advice from other seasonal self-employed people collecting Social Security would be super helpful.

the $22,320 is annual not monthly so you can earn that much total for the year from what i understand. but i think if u make more than that they take back $1 for every $2 over the limit

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KingKongZilla

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Thanks! So do you know if they'd take back benefits for the whole year or just for the months I'm over the earnings limit?

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Nathan Dell

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The $22,320 annual earnings limit for 2025 applies to the entire year, not per month. However, there's also a Monthly Earnings Test that could be very beneficial for you as a seasonal worker. Under the Monthly Earnings Test, in the first year you claim benefits, you can receive full benefits for any month you earn below the monthly limit ($1,860 in 2025) AND don't perform "substantial services" in self-employment. For self-employment, the 45-hour rule you mentioned is important. Social Security considers you performing "substantial services" if you: - Work more than 45 hours in a month in your business, OR - Work between 15-45 hours and it's in a highly skilled occupation or managing a sizeable business Since you're just mowing lawns by yourself, the 15-45 hour middle range would likely not be considered substantial unless you're managing multiple employees or contracts. So your strategy could be: 1) In your working months: Track your hours carefully. Try to stay under 45 hours per month. If you go over, you'll likely lose benefits for that specific month. 2) Non-working months: You should receive full benefits regardless of your annual total. Does that help clarify things?

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KingKongZilla

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This is incredibly helpful, thank you! So if I understand correctly, I need to track both my income AND hours each month. If I stay under 45 hours and under $1,860 in a particular month, I keep my full benefit for that month, right? But what happens in months where I go over? Let's say in July I work 60 hours and make $5,000. Do I just lose that month's SS payment or does it affect other months too?

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Maya Jackson

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When I started collecting SS at 63 i had similar issues with my real estate business. The SSA will take back $1 for every $2 you earn above the annual limit. BUT they do it by reducing or eliminating your monthly payments until they recover the amount. They don't spread it evenly, they just stop paying you until they get it back!!! So if you go over by $5,680 for the year, they'll want back $2,840 and might withhold 2-3 months of payments completely. It's a pain.

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Same thing happened to my father! They didn't even tell him until the end of the year and then suddenly no SS checks for 3 months. Total nightmare for someone on a fixed income.

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Nathan Dell

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To answer your follow-up question: Yes, you need to track both income and hours each month. If you work over 45 hours or earn over $1,860 in July, you would lose just that month's benefit. The monthly earnings test is applied separately for each month in your first year of retirement. After your first year on benefits, only the annual test applies. Also important for self-employment: SSA counts your net earnings (after business expenses), not gross income. So keep track of all legitimate business expenses like equipment, gas, maintenance, etc. to reduce your countable income.

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KingKongZilla

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That makes so much more sense now. I'll definitely track my expenses carefully to keep my net earnings lower. I'm thinking of maybe limiting myself to 40 hours per month and raising my rates a bit to stay under those limits but still make enough to cover expenses.

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Amaya Watson

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I went through this EXACT situation with my seasonal fishing charter business. Let me tell you, trying to get clear answers from the Social Security office was IMPOSSIBLE. Called for weeks and kept getting disconnected or put on hold for hours only to get different answers from different people. Finally found a service called Claimyr that got me through to an actual SSA agent in under 5 minutes. Worth every penny. You can see how it works at https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU or visit claimyr.com. The agent I spoke with confirmed everything that people mentioned here about the monthly test vs. annual test. My strategy ended up being to carefully track hours (I stay under 40 to be safe) and shift some of my income to the following year when possible. Been working great for 2 years now!

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KingKongZilla

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Thanks for the tip. I've been trying to call SSA for days with no luck. I'll check out that service if I can't get through soon. Do you know if they ask any questions about which months you reported working when they do their end-of-year review?

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Grant Vikers

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This whole system is COMPLETELY BROKEN!!! I tried to do the monthly earnings thing with my construction business and SS said I was actually over the limit for the YEAR so they took back $4,300!!! They sent me a notice saying I had to pay it ALL back at once or they'd take it from future checks. I had to borrow money from my daughter to cover bills. DON'T TRUST WHAT ANYONE TELLS YOU ON THE PHONE! Get everything in writing because these people will tell you one thing and then do something completely different later!!!!

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The issue you experienced was likely because self-employment income must be prorated across the entire year for tax purposes, even if you only worked certain months. This is a common misunderstanding with the monthly earnings test. For true monthly tracking, self-employed individuals need to maintain separate contemporaneous logs of both time and income for each month, then report this to SSA using their specific procedures. There's a special form (SSA-131) for reporting monthly earnings that can help avoid the situation you experienced.

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Amaya Watson

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To answer your question about their end-of-year review - yes, they will ask about which months you worked and how many hours. This is why detailed records are crucial. When they did my review, they wanted to see: - Monthly net earnings - Hours worked each month - Type of work performed each month I created a simple spreadsheet tracking days/hours worked and income/expenses by month. They accepted this as proof. The agent I spoke with mentioned that many self-employed people get caught at tax time because they don't have this documentation separated by month.

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KingKongZilla

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Thanks again. I'll definitely start a spreadsheet now before I begin my season. Really appreciate all the advice!

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my cousin works seasonally at a golf course and collects SS. he said the most important thing is what month you START getting benefits. if you start in october after your busy season you can make as much as you want that year before october! might be worth waiting to apply until after your busy season ends???

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Nathan Dell

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This is partially correct but needs clarification. In your first year of retirement, SSA applies the monthly earnings test, allowing you to receive benefits for any month you don't perform substantial services, regardless of annual earnings. However, there's an important grace year provision: the year you retire counts as a grace year if there's at least one month where you neither earned over the monthly limit nor performed substantial services. During this grace year, you can receive benefits for any month you stay under those thresholds. So yes, strategic timing of when you start benefits can be advantageous for seasonal workers, but you need to understand all the rules to maximize your benefits.

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another thing to think about is that once u hit full retirement age none of this matters anymore! at 67 u can earn as much as u want with no penalties. so maybe just wait til then if u can?? that's what my neighbor did with his business

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KingKongZilla

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I wish I could wait, but I need the income now. My plan is to be really careful with the monthly limits for 2 years and then when I hit FRA I can just work as much as I want. Just gotta make it until then!

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Dylan Campbell

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Just wanted to add something that might help with your record-keeping - I use a simple phone app to track my hours in real-time while I'm working. Takes literally 2 seconds to start/stop the timer each day, and at the end of the month I have exact hours worked without having to guess or reconstruct from memory. For income tracking, I also recommend setting up a separate business checking account if you don't already have one. Makes it super easy to track monthly income and expenses when tax time comes around, and SSA loves clean records if they ever audit your monthly earnings. One more tip - consider getting your earnings estimate from SSA.gov before you start collecting. That way you'll know exactly what your monthly benefit will be, which helps with budgeting around the earnings limits. Good luck with your lawn care business!

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