Social Security earnings limit confusion - monthly vs. annual tracking of $23,400?
Quick question about the 2025 earnings limit while collecting Social Security. I'm turning 65 in December and starting my SS benefits in January. I understand there's a $23,400 annual limit for people under FRA, which works out to $1,950 per month. What I'm confused about is HOW they track this. If I earn $2,100 in February (going over the monthly amount) but stay under the annual total, will they reduce my SS payment right away? Or do they only start reducing benefits once I exceed the TOTAL annual amount of $23,400? My job has seasonal busy periods where I might earn more some months than others. Trying to figure out if I need to carefully manage my monthly income or just make sure I don't go over the yearly total. Anyone dealt with this before?
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ApolloJackson
They track it on an annual basis, not monthly. The annual limit for 2025 is indeed $23,400 if you're under your Full Retirement Age (FRA). The monthly breakdown is just a simplified way of thinking about it. So you can earn $5,000 in January and nothing the rest of the year, and you'll be fine as long as your total stays under $23,400 for the year. SSA will only start withholding benefits after you exceed the annual threshold. However, there is one exception - the first year you claim benefits has a monthly earnings test. So if you start benefits in January 2025, for that year only, they'll look at whether you earn over $1,950 in any individual month. After your first year on benefits, it switches to the annual calculation.
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Grace Patel
•Wait, so in my FIRST year on benefits, they DO track monthly? That's exactly what I was worried about! So if I earn $2,100 in February 2025, they'll reduce my SS payment for that month, even if I'm way under the annual limit?
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Isabella Russo
The person above is partly wrong. There are actually TWO different earnings tests: 1. The annual test for everyone ($23,400 for 2025) 2. A monthly test that ONLY applies in the first year you retire In your first year, if you earn over $1,950 in any month, you won't be considered "retired" for that month and might not get benefits. After the first year, only the annual test matters. This monthly test is designed for people who retire mid-year and might have had high earnings before retirement that would otherwise disqualify them under just the annual test.
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Grace Patel
•Oh, that makes more sense! So since I'm starting benefits in January and that's the beginning of the year, which test applies to me? Will they look at my monthly earnings throughout 2025 or just the annual total?
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Rajiv Kumar
they will take away $1 for every $2 you earn over the limit. at least thats what they did to my husband when he went over last year
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Aria Washington
I went through this exact situation last year. Here's how it actually works: For the FIRST year you're entitled to benefits, you can use the monthly earnings test if it benefits you. If you earn over the monthly limit ($1,950 in 2025) in any month, you won't receive benefits for that month. However, if you're starting in January 2025, and working throughout the year, then only the ANNUAL limit ($23,400) will really matter to you. They'll calculate if you went over at the end of the year, and if you did, they'll withhold $1 in benefits for every $2 you earned over the limit. The monthly test is mostly helpful for people who retire mid-year and had high earnings before retirement. Also, remember this all goes away once you reach your Full Retirement Age - then you can earn unlimited amounts without penalty.
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Grace Patel
•Thank you for the clear explanation! So just to confirm - if I start benefits in January and work all year staying under $23,400 total, I don't need to worry about monthly fluctuations? Some months could be higher than $1,950 and other months lower, as long as the annual total stays under the limit?
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Liam O'Reilly
I HAD THE EXACT SAME QUESTION LAST YEAR!! I called Social Security 7 TIMES and got 4 DIFFERENT ANSWERS!!! One agent told me monthly limits, another said annual, a third said something completely different. The phone system is IMPOSSIBLE - waited on hold for 3+ hours each time only to be disconnected twice! Finally got through to someone who seemed to know what they were talking about. Confirmed it's an ANNUAL limit once you're past the first year. First year has special rules if you retire mid-year.
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Chloe Delgado
•Have you tried using Claimyr to call Social Security? I was in the same situation last month and needed answers about my earnings limit. Used this service at claimyr.com and got through to an agent in under 10 minutes instead of waiting for hours. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU Saved me a ton of frustration and I finally got a consistent answer about how the earnings test works. The agent was able to pull up my record and give me personalized information.
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Liam O'Reilly
•Never heard of that but DEFINITELY going to try it next time! Thanks for the tip - anything to avoid those 3-hour hold times!
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Ava Harris
Everybody saying different things here... let me simplify. If you start benefits in January, the annual limit applies. The monthly limit is for people who retire mid-year and have big earnings before retiring. So yes, your earnings can go up and down each month, just keep the TOTAL under $23,400 for the year and you'll be fine.
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Aria Washington
To respond to your follow-up question: Yes, that's exactly right. Since you're starting in January, you'll only need to worry about the annual total of $23,400. Your monthly earnings can fluctuate above and below $1,950 as long as the annual total stays under the limit. The monthly earnings test is really designed to help people who retire mid-year and had high earnings before retiring. For example, someone who earned $60,000 January-July and then retired in August would normally exceed the annual limit and get no benefits, but with the monthly test, they can get benefits for August-December if their monthly earnings stay below the limit during those months. If you're planning to consistently work throughout the year, just focus on keeping your annual total under $23,400 and you'll be fine. SSA will review your earnings after the year ends, typically when you file your tax return.
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Grace Patel
•Perfect! That's exactly what I needed to know. My work is seasonal in landscaping, so I'll earn more in spring/summer and less in winter, but I can plan to stay under the annual total. What a relief! Thanks for clearing this up for me.
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Rajiv Kumar
my sister inlaw kept working after she started ss and they took back 7 months of payments from her the next year. be careful!
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ApolloJackson
One more important thing to understand: if they do withhold some of your benefits because you exceed the earnings limit, it's not lost forever. They'll recalculate and increase your monthly benefit when you reach your Full Retirement Age to account for the months they withheld benefits. And remember, the earnings limit only applies to wages or self-employment income. It doesn't apply to investment income, pension payments, or other non-work income. Good luck with your seasonal work pattern - sounds like you've got a good handle on it now!
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Grace Patel
•That's really good to know about the recalculation at FRA! Takes some of the pressure off. Thanks again everyone for the help - feel much better about my work situation now.
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