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Can I exceed Social Security monthly earnings limit ($1,950) if I stay under annual limit ($23,400)?

I'm 63 and started collecting SS retirement benefits earlier this year. I understand there's a $23,400 annual earnings limit for 2025 (since I'm under FRA), but I'm confused about the monthly limit. My part-time job sometimes gives me more hours during summer tourist season where I might make $2,300-2,800 in those months, but then much less in winter. If I stay under the $23,400 for the entire year, does it matter if I exceed $1,950 in certain months? The SSA pamphlet I got mentions both limits but doesn't clearly explain how they work together. Will I lose benefits in the months I earn over $1,950 even if my annual total stays under $23,400?

The monthly earnings test only applies during the first year you claim benefits. After that first calendar year, only the annual limit matters. So if you started collecting in 2025, the monthly limit applies this year. But starting in 2026, SSA will only look at your annual earnings. During your first year on benefits, you get a 'grace period' where you can receive full benefits regardless of annual earnings for any month you earn under the monthly limit ($1,950) AND don't perform substantial services in self-employment. This helps people who might have earned a lot before retirement but then stopped working mid-year.

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Thank you! So to make sure I understand - since I started benefits in January 2025, I need to stay under $1,950 each month this year if I want full benefits for that month? Even if my total for 2025 ends up well below $23,400?

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thats not right. my neighbor makes like $3000 some months at his job and way less others and SSA only cares about his yearly total. they dont even ask for monthly breakdowns on the report form. i think ur overthinking it tbh

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It depends on whether your neighbor is in his first year of receiving benefits or not. Monthly limits ONLY apply during the first calendar year. After that, it switches to just the annual limit. Many people get confused about this distinction.

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I had the exact same question last year! So frustrating how SSA makes these rules so complicated. When I called, they explained the first year rule that the other commenter mentioned. In your case, since you started in 2025, you'll need to stay under $1,950 each month this year if you want benefits for that month. Next year it'll just be the annual limit that matters.

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I just wanted to add that I went through the exact same situation when I retired but kept working part-time at my landscaping business. My income varied hugely by season. After constant busy signals and disconnections with SSA, I finally used Claimyr (claimyr.com) to get through to an agent who confirmed exactly what others have said here - first year is monthly limit, after that it's annual. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU - saved me hours of frustration.

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my sister lost half her benefit when she made $2200 one month even though she barely worked rest of year!!! SS is such a rip off, they TAKE OUR MONEY all our lives then make up reasons not to pay! the whole system is designed to confuse seniors!!!!!

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That's terrible about your sister. Was it during her first year of benefits? Based on what others are saying, it sounds like that might explain it, though it still seems unfair when the total for the year is low.

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Let me clarify the exact rule here since there's some confusion. The monthly earnings test is ONLY applicable during what's called your "grace year" - typically the first calendar year you receive benefits. During this grace year: 1. You'll receive full benefits for any month you earn ≤ $1,950 (2025 limit) 2. This applies regardless of your annual total 3. This helps people who had high earnings before retirement but then stopped working After your grace year: 1. Only the annual limit ($23,400 for 2025) matters 2. SSA doesn't care how your earnings are distributed by month 3. Benefits are reduced by $1 for every $2 earned above the annual limit So yes, in your specific situation as someone who started benefits in 2025, if you earn over $1,950 in summer months this year, you won't receive benefits for those specific months, even if your annual total is under $23,400. But starting in 2026, only your annual total will matter.

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Wait so if they earn $2300 in July (over the limit) but only $1000 in August (under limit) would they get August but not July benefits? I'm turning 62 in November and planned to apply then, but I'll still be working part time and I'm SO confused about how this actually works 😰

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@anxiousretirement - Yes, that's exactly right. In the grace year, each month stands alone. If you earn over the monthly limit in July, you don't get benefits for July. If you earn under the limit in August, you get full benefits for August. Each month is evaluated separately. Since you're applying in November, your grace year will be 2025, and you'll need to stay under the monthly limit for November and December 2025 to receive benefits for those months. Then in 2026, only the annual limit will matter.

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This is all making more sense now. So for me, since I started in January, 2025 is my 'grace year' and I need to watch my monthly earnings. I'll probably have to give up benefits during July and August when I exceed $1,950, but I can still get benefits the other months if I stay under that amount each month. Then in 2026, I'll just need to make sure my annual total stays under whatever the limit is for that year. Thanks everyone for all the help!

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Did anyone else notice how they keep raising this earnings limit every year but our actual benefits barely go up? COLA is a joke compared to real inflation.

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EXACTLY!!! my rent went up $200 this year and my SS only went up $58!!! how does that math work???

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just be careful about reporting. my cousin didn't report his work and SSA found out from his taxes and made him pay back like $8000 in benefits. they add penalties too

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I definitely plan to report everything properly. I'm just trying to understand the rules ahead of time so I can plan my work schedule accordingly. Thanks for the warning though - I definitely don't want to end up with an overpayment situation!

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Just wanted to share my experience since I went through something similar. I'm 64 and started benefits last year, so I dealt with the monthly limits during my grace year. What really helped me was keeping detailed monthly records of my earnings and planning my work schedule around the limits when possible. One thing that wasn't mentioned yet - if you do exceed the monthly limit and lose benefits for those months, those "lost" benefits aren't gone forever. SSA will recalculate your benefit amount when you reach full retirement age to account for the months you didn't receive payments due to earnings. It's not a dollar-for-dollar recovery, but you do get some credit back. Also, make sure you understand what counts as "earnings" - it's generally wages from employment and net earnings from self-employment, but things like pensions, investment income, and rental income typically don't count toward these limits. The SSA website has a good breakdown of what counts and what doesn't.

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This is really helpful information! I didn't know about the recalculation at full retirement age - that makes me feel better about potentially losing benefits during those high-earning summer months. Can you clarify what you mean by "some credit back"? Is it like they adjust your monthly benefit amount upward to account for the months you didn't receive payments, or is it calculated differently? Also, good point about what counts as earnings - my income is all from W-2 wages so that should be straightforward to track.

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Great info about the recalculation at FRA! I had no idea about that. Since I'm in my first year too, it's reassuring to know those "lost" months aren't completely gone. Do you happen to know roughly how much the adjustment is? Like if I lose 2-3 months of benefits this year due to exceeding the monthly limit, would the recalculation add maybe $20-30 to my monthly benefit at FRA, or is it more/less than that? Just trying to get a sense of whether it's worth restructuring my work schedule to avoid going over the limit.

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@Natalie Wang The recalculation amount varies based on your specific benefit and how many months you lost, but it s'typically not a huge increase - maybe $10-40 per month in most cases. The formula is complex, but essentially SSA removes those non-payment months from their calculation as if you had delayed claiming benefits for that period. Whether it s'worth restructuring your schedule depends on your financial situation. If you need the income now and can afford to lose some benefits temporarily, it might make sense to work more during busy season. But if you re'relying heavily on those monthly SS payments, you might want to try keeping under $1,950 each month. Remember, you get the full benefit back for any month you stay under the limit, which could be more valuable than the small FRA adjustment later.

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! As someone new to Social Security, I was completely unaware of the difference between the first-year monthly limits and the ongoing annual limits. It seems like SSA could do a much better job explaining this distinction in their materials - I've read through several pamphlets and none of them made this "grace year" concept clear. One follow-up question: when you report your earnings to SSA, do you need to provide monthly breakdowns during that first year, or do they figure out the monthly amounts from your annual report? I want to make sure I'm documenting everything correctly from the start to avoid any issues down the road. Also, for anyone else in a similar situation with seasonal work - it might be worth calculating whether the lost benefits during high-earning months plus the small FRA adjustment later is better or worse than trying to cap your hours to stay under $1,950 each month. Depends on your hourly rate and how much extra work you'd be turning down.

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Great question about the reporting process! From what I understand, SSA typically wants you to report your earnings annually, but during your grace year they may ask for monthly breakdowns to properly apply the monthly limits. I'd recommend keeping detailed monthly records regardless - it'll make things much easier if they do request that information later. Your point about calculating the trade-offs is spot on. For seasonal workers, it really comes down to the math of lost benefits vs. additional income, plus considering your immediate cash flow needs. If you're earning significantly more than $1,950 in those busy months, the extra income might well exceed what you'd lose in benefits, especially when you factor in the eventual FRA recalculation. I'm also frustrated by how poorly SSA explains these rules. The grace year concept should be front and center in all their retirement materials, not buried in fine print. It's such a critical distinction for anyone planning to work after claiming benefits.

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I'm in a very similar situation - started benefits at 62 this year and work seasonally at a beach resort. What I've learned from experience is that you really need to track your monthly earnings carefully during this first year. I use a simple spreadsheet to monitor where I am each month. One thing that helped me was talking to my employer about potentially splitting some of my summer earnings - like getting a small bonus paid in a lower-earning month instead of all during peak season. Some employers are willing to work with you on timing if you explain the situation. Also, don't forget that the monthly limit is based on gross earnings, not take-home pay. So if you're close to the $1,950 limit, factor in your full wages before taxes and deductions. I made that mistake in my first month and went over by about $100, which cost me my entire benefit for that month. The good news is that once you get through 2025, you'll only have to worry about staying under the annual limit, which gives you much more flexibility for seasonal work patterns.

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This is really practical advice, thank you! I hadn't thought about asking my employer about splitting earnings across months - that's actually a great idea since my tourist season job does sometimes offer small bonuses. I'll definitely ask if they can time any extra pay for slower months when I'm well under the $1,950 limit. The point about gross vs. net earnings is crucial too - I was thinking about my take-home pay but you're absolutely right that SSA looks at the full amount before deductions. That could easily push someone over the limit without realizing it. I'm going to set up a spreadsheet like you mentioned to track this monthly. Better to be overly cautious during this first year than to accidentally lose benefits because I miscalculated. It's reassuring to hear from someone who's actually navigating this successfully. The seasonal work situation really does make these rules more complicated, but at least it's only for this one year!

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I just want to thank everyone who contributed to this thread - this has been the most helpful explanation of the Social Security earnings limits I've found anywhere! As someone who's been dreading the paperwork and confusion around working while on benefits, you've all made it so much clearer. The key takeaways I'm getting are: 1. First year = monthly limits ($1,950 per month in 2025) 2. After first year = only annual limits matter ($23,400 in 2025) 3. Keep detailed monthly records during your first year 4. Consider timing of bonuses/extra pay if possible 5. Remember it's gross earnings, not take-home 6. Lost months get some adjustment at FRA, but it's usually small I'm bookmarking this thread to refer back to! SSA really should hire some of you folks to rewrite their pamphlets - you've explained in a few comments what took me hours of reading confusing official materials to sort of understand. Much appreciated!

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I completely agree - this thread has been a goldmine of practical information! As someone who just joined this community and is also navigating the confusing world of Social Security benefits while working, I can't thank everyone enough for breaking this down so clearly. What really struck me is how the "grace year" concept isn't prominently explained in any of the official SSA materials I've read. It seems like such a critical piece of information for anyone planning to work after claiming benefits. The distinction between monthly limits in year one versus annual limits after that is huge for planning purposes. I'm also dealing with seasonal income variation, so the tips about tracking gross earnings monthly and potentially working with employers on bonus timing are incredibly valuable. It's so helpful to hear from people who have actually been through this process rather than just reading the dry official rules. This community is proving to be an amazing resource for real-world Social Security questions. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences and knowledge!

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As someone who just started collecting benefits this year and also works seasonally, I want to echo what others have said about how poorly SSA explains the first-year monthly limits. I spent hours on their website and calling (mostly getting busy signals) before finding clear answers. What helped me was creating a simple monthly tracking system and having a frank conversation with my seasonal employer about the situation. They were actually quite understanding and helped me structure my schedule to stay under $1,950 in most months, while still getting the hours I need during our busy season. One additional tip I haven't seen mentioned - if you're close to the monthly limit, remember that things like overtime pay, holiday pay, and shift differentials all count toward that $1,950 gross limit. I learned this the hard way when a holiday shift pushed me over by just $75, costing me my entire benefit for that month. The silver lining is that this is truly just a first-year issue. Once we get to 2026, having that annual limit flexibility will make seasonal work much more manageable with Social Security benefits. Hang in there!

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This is such valuable real-world advice, thank you! I'm new to this community and just learning about Social Security benefits. Your point about overtime and holiday pay counting toward the monthly limit is something I never would have thought about - that $75 overage costing you the entire month's benefit really drives home how strict these rules are during the first year. I'm curious about your conversation with your employer - were they familiar with Social Security earnings limits, or did you have to explain the whole situation? I'm wondering how to approach that discussion with my seasonal employer without it seeming like I'm trying to limit my availability. Any tips on how you framed that conversation would be really helpful for those of us just starting this process! It's reassuring to know that 2026 will be much simpler with just the annual limit. This thread has been incredibly educational - I feel like I understand these rules better from reading everyone's experiences than from all the official SSA materials combined.

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