Social Security earnings limit: Does SSA count when I'm paid or when I earn the income?
So confused about the Social Security monthly earnings limit! I'm going to start drawing SS retirement this year while still working part-time. My FRA is 67 but I'm starting at 63, so I know I'm subject to the $1,950 monthly earnings limit for 2025. My question is HOW does SSA determine which month the income counts toward? My work schedule is irregular - sometimes I work a lot of hours in one month but don't get paid until the following month. Does SSA look at when I actually earned the money (worked the hours) or when my employer deposits my paycheck? I'm trying to plan my work schedule carefully so I don't accidentally go over in any month and lose benefits. My HR department wasn't sure about this when I asked them. Anyone deal with this before?
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Evelyn Martinez
SSA counts income when it's EARNED, not when it's paid. So if you work extra hours in April but don't get the paycheck until May, those earnings count toward April's limit. I went through this last year when I started my benefits. The rule caused me problems because I had some vacation pay that counted for the month I earned it years ago, not when it was paid out! Really messed up my calculations.
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Alexander Evans
•Thank you! That's exactly what I needed to know. So I should track my hours/earnings by work date, not by payday. I'm guessing I need to keep really good records then because my paystubs won't show exactly when the work was performed?
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Benjamin Carter
my sister had this same question when she retired!!! pretty sure its when u get PAID not when u work the hours, at least thats what happened with her. she kept working under the limit but the ssa still reduced her check one month because of when the money hit her account.
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Evelyn Martinez
•That's not correct according to SSA rules. It's definitely when earned, not when paid. Your sister might have misunderstood what happened with her benefits. The Social Security Program Operations Manual System (POMS) specifically states that wages count when earned, not when paid.
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Maya Lewis
The monthly earnings test is such a NIGHTMARE to deal with! I tried to work part-time last year and gave up because I could never figure out if I was over the limit or not. My employer's payroll system didn't match up with how SSA was counting things. Ended up with an overpayment notice for $2,700 that I'm STILL fighting with them about. Just be SUPER careful and document EVERYTHING.
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Alexander Evans
•Oh no, that sounds awful! Did you ever get through to someone at SSA to explain your situation? I'm worried about exactly this kind of problem.
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Benjamin Carter
wait i'm confused now... so do bonuses count in the month you get them or the month you earn them? and what about overtime pay?
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Isaac Wright
•Bonuses and overtime are both counted when earned, not when paid. The tricky part with bonuses is determining when they were "earned" - if it's a performance bonus for work done throughout the year, SSA might prorate it across the months it was earned. For overtime, it's counted in the month you actually worked those hours. The Social Security rules on this are found in their Program Operations Manual System (POMS) section RS 02505.040.
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Lucy Taylor
I dealt with this exact issue when I started my benefits in 2023. After many frustrating attempts trying to call SSA directly (always disconnected after 1+ hour waits), I found a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to an SSA agent in about 20 minutes. The agent confirmed it's when you EARN the money, not when you're paid. She also told me to keep detailed records showing when I worked each hour in case there's any question later. There's a demo video of how their service works here: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU - saved me days of frustration.
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Alexander Evans
•Thanks for the tip! I've been trying to call SSA for a week without getting through. I'll check out that service.
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Connor Murphy
This earnings limit stuff is exactly why I waited until my full retirement age to claim benefits. No limits to worry about! But if you're determined to work while claiming early, you should know that even if they reduce your benefit now because you earn too much, they'll recalculate and give you credit later when you reach FRA. So you don't permanently lose the money.
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Alexander Evans
•I understand they'll adjust it later, but I really need both my part-time income AND the full SS benefit right now to cover my expenses. I can't afford to have my monthly check reduced even temporarily.
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KhalilStar
Don't forget the annual limit too! Monthly limits only apply during your first year receiving benefits. After that it's just the annual limit ($21,240 for 2025 if you're below FRA for the whole year).
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Alexander Evans
•Good point! Since I'm starting benefits mid-year in 2025, I'll have to track both the monthly and annual limits this year, right? Then just the annual limit in 2026?
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Isaac Wright
To directly answer your question and confirm what others have said: SSA counts income when it's earned, not when it's paid. This is outlined in their Program Operations Manual System (POMS) section RS 02505.040. For practical purposes, keep these records: 1. Detailed timesheets showing exactly when you worked 2. Pay stubs showing how much you earned 3. A month-by-month calculation of your earnings Also, be aware that if you're self-employed, the rules are different - they look at both when you perform the services AND substantially what hours you put into the business. Finally, if you're close to the limit, consider working with an SSA-experienced financial advisor to help you stay under the thresholds.
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Alexander Evans
•Thank you for the detailed explanation! I'll start tracking everything right away. I'm not self-employed thankfully, just working regular part-time hours at a retail store, but with a somewhat irregular schedule.
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Benjamin Carter
my neighbor got hit with a BIG bill from SSA for working too much... like $8000 they wanted back!!! be super careful
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Alexander Evans
•Yikes! That's exactly what I'm trying to avoid. Did your neighbor have to pay it all back?
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Benjamin Carter
yeah they took some out of every check until it was paid back... took like 2 years! so frustrating
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Maya Lewis
The WHOLE system is designed to CONFUSE people and then PUNISH them for honest mistakes!!! I reported my earnings EXACTLY as my accountant told me to, and STILL got an overpayment notice. When I finally got someone on the phone after WEEKS of trying, they couldn't even explain WHY I had an overpayment!!! The government WANTS us to fail!
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Evelyn Martinez
•I understand your frustration, but I think it's more about an underfunded and understaffed system than a deliberate attempt to confuse people. The rules are complicated because they're trying to be fair across many different work situations. But I agree they do a poor job explaining the rules clearly to beneficiaries.
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Alexander Evans
Thanks everyone for the helpful information! It sounds like I need to: 1. Track income by when I EARN it, not when I'm paid 2. Keep detailed records of when I work each day/hour 3. Stay well under the $1,950 monthly limit to be safe 4. Consider getting professional help with planning my work schedule I really appreciate all the advice. This community has been way more helpful than my HR department or the SSA website!
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Sasha Reese
You're absolutely on the right track with your summary! One additional tip that saved me a lot of headaches: create a simple spreadsheet to track your monthly earnings in real-time. I update mine every week with the hours I worked and estimated earnings, which helps me see if I'm getting close to the $1,950 limit before it becomes a problem. Also, since you mentioned your schedule is irregular, consider asking your manager if they can give you advance notice of heavy work weeks so you can plan accordingly. Some employers are willing to work with SS beneficiaries once they understand the situation. Good luck navigating this - it really does get easier once you establish a good tracking system!
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Liam McConnell
•That's a great idea about the spreadsheet! I'm definitely going to set something like that up. And you're right about talking to my manager - I hadn't thought about asking for advance notice of busy weeks, but that could really help me plan better. It's reassuring to hear that it gets easier once you have a system in place. Thanks for the practical tips!
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Isabel Vega
Just wanted to add one more important detail that I learned the hard way - if you have any doubts about how much you earned in a particular month, it's better to report MORE to SSA than less. I made the mistake of underestimating my earnings one month because I wasn't sure about some overtime hours, thinking it would be safer. When SSA later got the actual wage report from my employer, they hit me with an overpayment notice AND a penalty for "underreporting." The SSA agent explained that they'd rather you overestimate and potentially get a small adjustment later than underestimate and face penalties. It seems backwards, but that's how their system works. Always err on the side of caution and report the higher amount if you're unsure!
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Julia Hall
•That's really valuable advice about overestimating rather than underestimating! I never would have thought that underreporting could lead to penalties - that does seem backwards but I guess it makes sense from their perspective. Better to be conservative and report the higher amount than risk getting hit with both an overpayment AND a penalty. I'll definitely keep that in mind when I'm unsure about my earnings calculations. Thanks for sharing that hard-learned lesson!
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Jamal Harris
As someone who just went through this same situation last year, I can confirm what others have said - SSA definitely counts earnings when you EARN them, not when you get paid. One thing that really helped me was setting up a simple tracking system right from the start. I created a calendar where I write down my hours worked each day, then calculate my daily earnings. At the end of each week, I add it up to see where I stand for the month. This way I can adjust my schedule if I'm getting too close to the $1,950 limit. Also, don't just rely on your regular hourly wage when calculating - make sure to include any shift differentials, overtime premiums, or small bonuses in your calculations. I almost went over one month because I forgot to account for holiday pay that counted toward my regular earnings. The key is staying well below the limit rather than trying to get as close as possible. I aim for no more than $1,800 per month just to have a safety cushion. It's better to work a little less and keep your full SS benefit than to risk going over and losing money.
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Giovanni Colombo
•This is incredibly helpful advice, thank you! I love the idea of using a calendar to track daily hours and earnings - that seems like a much more manageable way to stay on top of it than trying to calculate everything at the end of the month. And you're absolutely right about including all the extras like shift differentials and holiday pay. I hadn't even thought about those! Your point about aiming for $1,800 instead of trying to get close to $1,950 makes a lot of sense. The peace of mind of having that buffer zone is probably worth more than the extra $150 I might earn by cutting it close. I'd rather be safe than sorry and risk losing benefits or dealing with overpayment issues. Thanks for sharing your real-world experience - it's exactly the kind of practical advice I was hoping to find!
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Oscar Murphy
I'm in a very similar situation - just turned 64 and planning to start SS benefits while working part-time. This thread has been incredibly eye-opening! I had no idea that earnings are counted when earned rather than when paid. One question I haven't seen addressed yet: what happens if you work irregular shifts that span midnight? Like if I work a shift from 11 PM on January 31st to 7 AM on February 1st - which month do those earnings count toward? Also, has anyone dealt with commission-based pay while on SS? I'm wondering if commissions follow the same "when earned" rule or if there are special considerations since commission earnings can be harder to pin down to specific dates. Thanks to everyone who has shared their experiences - this is exactly the kind of real-world advice that's impossible to find on the official SSA website!
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Mateo Hernandez
•Great questions! For shifts that span midnight, SSA typically counts the earnings based on the day the majority of the hours were worked. So in your example of 11 PM Jan 31 to 7 AM Feb 1, since you worked 1 hour in January and 7 hours in February, those earnings would count toward February. However, some employers handle this differently on their payroll systems, so I'd recommend checking with your HR department to see how they allocate overnight shift earnings between days. You want to make sure your tracking matches what gets reported to SSA. As for commissions, they generally follow the same "when earned" rule, but it can get tricky determining exactly when a commission was "earned." If it's based on sales made in a specific month, it counts for that month regardless of when you're paid. But if it's something like an annual performance bonus, SSA might prorate it across the months you worked to earn it. I'd strongly suggest calling SSA (or using that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier) to get specific guidance on your commission structure. Commission rules can vary a lot depending on the type of work and how the payments are structured. Good luck with your planning - it sounds like you're being smart to research all this before you start claiming!
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Darren Brooks
This entire discussion has been so helpful! I'm in a similar boat - 65 and considering claiming SS while working part-time. The "earned vs. paid" distinction is crucial and something I completely misunderstood before reading this thread. One thing I'm wondering about that I haven't seen mentioned: what about vacation days that you've accrued but haven't taken yet? If I have 40 hours of vacation time built up from working earlier in the year, and then I take that vacation time in December, does that count toward December's earnings limit even though I "earned" those hours months earlier? Also, for anyone dealing with this - I found it helpful to set up a monthly calendar reminder to review my earnings tracking. It's easy to forget to update your records when you're focused on just getting through each work week, but staying on top of it monthly has saved me from any surprises. Thanks again to everyone for sharing their real experiences with this complex system!
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