Social Security earnings limit confusion at 65 - monthly or yearly limit when starting benefits mid-year?
I just turned 65 and decided to start my Social Security retirement benefits on March 1st (still 2 years before my FRA of 67). I'm confused about how the earnings limit works when you start collecting mid-year. Is it a yearly amount that applies for all of 2025 regardless of when I start collecting? Or does it somehow get prorated starting from March? I'm still working part-time at my accounting firm and expect to make around $33,000 this year. Will SS take back some of my benefits if I earn too much? And if they do, do they take back a whole month's benefit or just a portion? Really appreciate any info from folks who've been through this!
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Javier Garcia
The earnings limit is both annual and monthly. For 2025, if you're under FRA the entire year, the annual limit is $22,320. Since you're starting benefits in March, there's a special rule for the first year. In any month you're receiving benefits, you can earn up to $1,860 and still get your full SS payment for that month, regardless of annual earnings. After the first year, only the annual limit matters. Based on your expected earnings of $33,000, you'll exceed the annual limit by $10,680, so SSA will withhold $1 for every $2 over the limit. That means approximately $5,340 in benefits could be withheld this year if your earnings are spread evenly. However, if you earn less than $1,860 in any month after starting benefits, you'll receive full benefits for that month under the monthly earnings test.
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NebulaNomad
•Thank you for explaining this! So if I understand right, from March through December, I need to watch my monthly earnings to stay under $1,860 if I want to get full benefits for those months? But what if I already earned $20,000 from January-February before I started collecting? Does that count against me?
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Emma Taylor
My sister went thru this exact same thing last yr! She started SS at 65 and was so confused about the earnings limits. The SS office told her wrong info twice and she ended up having benefits withheld that shouldn't have been. Make sure u get everything in writing!!
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Malik Robinson
•This happens ALL THE TIME. The SSA employees don't even understand their own rules properly. I had FOUR different answers from FOUR different reps about the earnings test when I started my benefits. The system is broken! They need to train people better or simplify these ridiculous rules.
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Isabella Silva
To directly answer your question: money earned BEFORE you start collecting benefits doesn't count toward the earnings limit. So your January and February earnings won't affect your benefits, even if they were substantial. After you start collecting in March, both the monthly and yearly tests apply, but in your first year, the monthly test can actually help you. If you earn less than $1,860 in any month, you get full benefits for that month regardless of your annual total. FYI - When SSA withholds benefits due to excess earnings, they withhold entire monthly payments, not partial ones, starting with January of the following year. And remember, these benefits aren't truly "lost" - after you reach FRA, your monthly benefit amount will be recalculated to credit you for the months where benefits were withheld.
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NebulaNomad
•This is SO helpful! I didn't realize the January and February earnings wouldn't count - that makes a huge difference. So I could potentially earn a lot in those early months, then keep my monthly earnings under $1,860 for the rest of the year after I start collecting in March, and potentially avoid any withholding? Also, I had no idea they'd increase my benefit later to make up for withheld months!
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Ravi Choudhury
i started ss at 63 and kept working nobody explained this limit stuff to me and now they want $7500 back from me 😩 make sure u understand it better than i did
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CosmosCaptain
•That happened to me too! The overpayment notices are terrifying. I got hit with a $4,200 overpayment bill because I didn't understand the earnings test. You can request a payment plan, but it's still painful. What I've learned is that if you know you'll exceed the limit, you can voluntarily ask SSA to withhold some benefits throughout the year to avoid the overpayment situation.
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Malik Robinson
FYI - The monthly earnings test in your first year is only for WAGES from employment. If you have self-employment income, they use a different test based on how many hours you work in your business (less than 45 hours/month to get benefits). Also, the earnings test only counts earned income - investment income, rental income, pensions, etc. don't count against you. The whole system is RIDICULOUS and punishes people for working. Good luck getting accurate info from SSA!
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Javier Garcia
•That's a good point about the different income types. And you're right that only wages and self-employment income count toward the earnings limit. Passive income doesn't affect benefits. The system is definitely complicated, but it's designed to encourage full retirement while allowing some work activity.
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Freya Johansen
I had this exact same question last year! Have you tried calling the Social Security office? I was on hold for THREE HOURS and then got disconnected. Then tried again the next day and waited two more hours. Total nightmare.
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Emma Taylor
•Try using Claimyr.com - it got me through to a real person at Social Security in under 30 minutes after I spent days trying to get through! They have a video that shows how it works at https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU. Saved me so much frustration when I needed to fix my medicare enrollment issue.
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NebulaNomad
Thank you all for the helpful responses! I'm going to try to plan the rest of my 2025 work schedule to keep my monthly earnings under the $1,860 limit after March. It's a relief to know my January and February earnings won't count against me. I'll definitely check out Claimyr to get official confirmation from SSA about my specific situation. One more question - if I do end up having some benefits withheld, how do they actually do that? Will my monthly deposits just stop for a while?
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Isabella Silva
•When SSA withholds benefits due to excess earnings, they typically take full months of benefits (not partial) beginning in January of the following year. So if they need to withhold $5,000 and your monthly benefit is $2,000, they'd withhold your January and February payments, plus half of March's payment. They'll send you a notice before doing this, and you can contact them to request a different withholding schedule if needed. Just keep tracking your earnings and report any significant changes to SSA throughout the year.
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Ravi Choudhury
congrats on retireing!! i wish someone explained this earnings stuff to me before i started SS. would have waited til my FRA probly
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