Moving Roth IRA funds before SSI application - will this affect my disabled son's eligibility?
I've been putting off applying for SSI for my 35-year-old son who has a severe cognitive disability from a childhood TBI (traumatic brain injury). He's never been able to hold employment due to memory issues and processing delays. I recently discovered his father (we separated years ago) set up a Roth IRA for him that now contains about $5,200. I know SSI has the $2,000 resource limit, and I'm worried this will disqualify him. Should I have him withdraw these funds before applying? Would SSA consider this a transfer of resources? I feel terrible for waiting so long to apply - I kept hoping his condition would improve enough for supported employment, but his doctors now say that's unlikely. Any advice on handling the Roth IRA situation before submitting his application would be greatly appreciated.
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Hailey O'Leary
This is a really important question! The $2,000 resource limit for SSI is strict, and yes, having over that amount would disqualify him. However, you need to be careful about withdrawing the money right before applying. SSA looks back 36 months for transfers of resources made for less than fair market value specifically to qualify for SSI. If they determine that's what happened, they can impose a penalty period of ineligibility. If he uses the money for his own support and maintenance (paying for food, shelter, clothing, medical needs), that's generally considered an appropriate spend down. Just make sure to keep receipts and documentation of how the money was spent. Also, be aware that if he withdraws from a Roth IRA, the earnings portion might be taxable if it's not a qualified distribution, though the contributions can come out tax-free.
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Marcus Marsh
•Thank you for this information. I'm worried about the look-back period now. Would it be better to use the money for something specific he needs, like dental work he's been putting off? Or maybe a new bed and some clothing? I want to make sure we do this correctly.
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Cedric Chung
my brother has disability too and we went thru same thing!! use the money for things he NEEDS before you apply. we bought my brother new glasses, paid his dentist bill, got him a used laptop for his online therapy meetings, and paid his phone bill for a few months ahead. keep ALL receipts!!!! they didnt give us any problems when we showed everything was for him.
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Marcus Marsh
•That's exactly the kind of practical advice I was hoping for. Did they ask for receipts during your brother's application process, or was it only if they questioned something?
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Talia Klein
I work with SSI applicants regularly, and I need to point out something important - SSA distinguishes between resources (assets) and income. When your son withdraws money from the Roth IRA: 1. The money becomes a countable resource if still in his possession 2. The portion that represents earnings (not contributions) could count as unearned income in the month received The best approach is to spend down appropriately (necessary items for his support) before applying, but do it gradually and naturally, not all at once the day before applying. Medical expenses, catching up on bills, necessary clothing, and essential household items are all reasonable. Also, you might want to look into an ABLE account if your son's disability occurred before age 26. These special accounts allow people with disabilities to save above the $2,000 limit without affecting SSI eligibility.
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Maxwell St. Laurent
•Hold on - I thought ABLE accounts were ONLY for people who got disabled as children??? The mom said her son has a "brain condition" but didn't say when it started. If he got hurt as an adult would he still qualify for an ABLE account??? This seems too good to be true.
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Talia Klein
To clarify about ABLE accounts: the law requires that the disability onset must have occurred before age 26. In this case, the OP mentioned a "childhood TBI" so an ABLE account could be an option. But you're right that not all disabled adults qualify - only those whose disability began before age 26.
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Marcus Marsh
•His accident was when he was 7, so it sounds like he would qualify for an ABLE account. I'll definitely look into this option - it might be perfect for managing any remaining funds. Thank you for pointing this out!
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PaulineW
just withdraw it all and spend it!!!! the SSA are not gonna come to ur house and check what u bought!!!! my cousin just took all his money out and got approved no problems
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Hailey O'Leary
•This is actually risky advice. SSA does verify bank statements and can request documentation for large withdrawals. They specifically look for transfers made just to qualify for benefits. Following this approach could result in a period of ineligibility for SSI if they determine it was an improper transfer of resources.
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Annabel Kimball
I went through a similar situation with my daughter last year. Trying to reach someone at Social Security to get clear guidance was INCREDIBLY frustrating. I spent weeks calling that 800 number only to be disconnected or told the wait time was 2+ hours. I finally found this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to an actual SSA agent in under 20 minutes! They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU The agent I spoke with explained exactly how to handle the resource spend-down and gave me documentation I could include with my daughter's application explaining the situation. It was so much better than trying to figure it out on my own or risking doing something that would delay her benefits.
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Marcus Marsh
•I've been dreading the phone calls to SSA. Their hold times are notorious! I'll check out that service - getting clear guidance directly from an agent would be really helpful right now. Thanks for sharing this!
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Chris Elmeda
My nephew has SSI. They check EVERYTHING. They wanted bank statements going back 6 months when he applied. AND they check again every year at redetermination. Be honest about the IRA. Maybe askif he can spend it down before applying but KEEP ALL RECIEPTS!!! SSI is great but they make you jump through hoops.
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Talia Klein
One more thing to consider: if your son's father is receiving (or will soon receive) Social Security retirement or disability benefits, your son might qualify for Disabled Adult Child (DAC) benefits (sometimes called Childhood Disability Benefits) on his father's record. This would provide a higher benefit than SSI in many cases and doesn't have the same strict resource limits. To qualify, your son must: - Have become disabled before age 22 - Be unmarried - Have a parent who receives Social Security retirement or disability benefits OR a parent who died but worked enough to qualify for Social Security This is definitely worth looking into as an alternative or supplement to SSI.
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Marcus Marsh
•I had no idea about this option! His father is 63 and planning to retire in the next year or two. This could be a much better path for us. I'll definitely ask about Disabled Adult Child benefits when I speak with SSA. Thank you so much for this information!
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Maxwell St. Laurent
I'm so CONFUSED about all these different benefits!!! Is SSI the same as SSDI??? And what's this Disabled Adult Child thing??? Why does the government make this so complicated!!! 😫 I've been trying to figure out what to apply for my sister and it's a NIGHTMARE!!!
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Hailey O'Leary
•It is confusing! Here's a quick breakdown: - SSI (Supplemental Security Income): Needs-based program for people with limited income/resources who are disabled, blind, or 65+. Has strict asset limits ($2,000 for individuals). - SSDI (Social Security Disability Insurance): For disabled workers who have earned enough work credits. No resource limits. - DAC/CDB (Disabled Adult Child/Childhood Disability Benefits): For adults disabled before 22 who have a parent receiving Social Security retirement/disability or a parent who died but was insured under Social Security. The best approach is to apply and let SSA determine which program(s) your sister qualifies for. They're supposed to consider all possible eligibilities.
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Cedric Chung
just wanted to say ur a good mom for helping ur son!!! my mom helped me get on ssi when i was 19 (im 32 now) and it changed my life. dont feel bad about not doing it sooner, ur doing it now and thats what matters!!
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Marcus Marsh
•Thank you for saying that. I've felt guilty for years thinking maybe I was holding him back by not accepting his limitations. It helps to hear from someone who's benefited from these supports. I appreciate your kindness.
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