Social Security DAC benefits vs SSI - Medicaid concerns when switching programs for adult disabled son
I'm working on transitioning my 45-year-old son from SSI to Disabled Adult Child (DAC) benefits under my husband's record. My husband claimed at his Full Retirement Age, and I understand my son would get 50% of his amount without reducing my husband's benefit. I'm struggling with two parts of the application: 1) The DAC application asks about previous work history. My son tried working as a teenager before his autism and other conditions were diagnosed. His lifetime earnings show about $2,500 total across three years of attempted employment. He hasn't worked since 2020. Do I need to provide details about these minimal earnings from decades ago? Most of the work section asks for specific information I simply don't have anymore. 2) If approved for DAC, my son would initially receive around $1,900 monthly (under the $2,000 resource limit), so he could keep Medicaid and qualify for Medicare after 24 months. But I'm worried about what happens when my husband eventually passes away. As a survivor, my son would receive about $3,800 monthly (over the $2,000 threshold). Would this cause him to lose Medicaid eligibility? Would he then need to pay Medicare premiums out-of-pocket? I've started an ABLE account for him - is keeping his bank account under $2,000 and transferring the excess to ABLE the right approach? Thanks for any guidance. This transition is really important for his long-term stability but I'm so worried about making a mistake that costs him healthcare coverage.
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Sophia Bennett
yes u need to list ALL work. even tho SSA can see his earnings record they still need u to fill out that part. just put what u know and attach a note saying 'minimal work history from teenage years before diagnosis, details not available, please see earnings record.' for the medicaid question when ur husband passes - yep the ABLE account is exactly what u want to do! thats how my brother keeps his medicaid with DAC benefits over $2k. just remember there's yearly contribution limits to ABLE. good luck!!
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Olivia Evans
•Thank you! That's really helpful about the work history note. Do you happen to know if there's a waiting period between approval for DAC and when benefits actually start? I'm trying to plan for his financial transition.
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Aiden Chen
I'd like to clarify a few important points about DAC benefits and Medicaid eligibility: 1) For the work history question - Yes, you should disclose all work history, even minimal amounts from years ago. The SSA needs to verify your son hasn't engaged in Substantial Gainful Activity (SGA), which is a key eligibility factor for DAC benefits. For 2025, the SGA threshold is $1,550 monthly for non-blind individuals. Based on what you've described, his earnings were well below this threshold. 2) Regarding Medicaid after your husband's passing - Your son would likely qualify for what's called the "DAC Special Protected Status" for Medicaid. This provision specifically protects individuals who lose SSI due to receiving DAC benefits. Even when his benefits increase to survivor level, he can maintain Medicaid eligibility if: - He was eligible for SSI before receiving DAC - He would still be eligible for SSI if not for the DAC benefits - He meets all other SSI criteria except for income The ABLE account strategy is excellent for managing resources, but the special protection should prevent him from losing Medicaid coverage regardless of the DAC benefit amount.
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Olivia Evans
•Oh wow, I had no idea about the "DAC Special Protected Status" for Medicaid! That's incredibly reassuring. I've been so worried about him potentially losing healthcare coverage when my husband passes. Thank you for that detailed explanation - I'll definitely ask the SSA representative about this when we apply.
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Zoey Bianchi
my sister went thru this exact same thing last year. the work history part was a NIGHTMARE!!!! they kept sending back the application saying it wasnt complete enough even tho she barely worked in 1997!!! like how am i supposed to remember where she worked for 2 months 25 years ago???? ugh. anyway we had to contact our state's disability rights legal aid group to help us. took 5 months to get it all sorted out. so my advice is document EVERYTHING. good luck.
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Christopher Morgan
•This is why I got so frustrated dealing with SSA! I spent 3 weeks trying to reach someone about my son's claim. Finally I used Claimyr (claimyr.com) and got through in 20 minutes. They have a video showing how it works at https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU. Saved me hours of redial hell when I needed answers about his application. Might help if you're having trouble contacting them about these DAC benefits.
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Aurora St.Pierre
Important correction to some of the information you've received: The $2,000 resource limit applies to SSI, but DAC benefits are under SSDI rules, which don't have resource limits. Resources only matter for Medicaid qualification. Another critical point: When your son transitions from SSI to DAC, he'll automatically qualify for Section 1619(b) Medicaid protection, which continues even after the Medicare waiting period ends. This protection extends through the DAC survivor benefit transition. For the work question: Always include all work history, even minimal earnings. The SSA examines this to determine if your son has ever performed SGA (Substantial Gainful Activity), which could affect eligibility. The minimal earnings you described shouldn't be problematic, but omitting them could delay processing. Regarding the ABLE account: This is still a good strategy for managing excess funds while maintaining Medicaid eligibility through other programs if needed. Remember the annual contribution limit is $18,000 for 2025.
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Olivia Evans
•Thank you for those clarifications! I've been confusing myself about the resource limits for the different programs. So to make sure I understand - the $2,000 limit doesn't apply to DAC benefits themselves, but might still matter for certain Medicaid programs if the special protections don't apply? And it sounds like I should definitely document all work history, no matter how minimal or long ago.
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Grace Johnson
i went thru similar transition from ssi to dac. definitely answer YES to the work question!!! they will check his earnings record no matter what and if u say NO when the record shows earnings (even tiny amounts from forever ago) they might consider it misrepresentation. just put what u remember or can find documentation for. for the medicaid thing - there's a thing called the Pickle Amendment that might help ur son keep medicaid even with higher benefits, u should ask about that specifically. and YES keep using the ABLE account!! its a lifesaver!!!
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Jayden Reed
•Actually, the Pickle Amendment doesn't apply to DAC recipients - it's for people who received both SSI and Social Security retirement/disability on their own record. The protection for DAC recipients is different and is called Section 1634(c) of the Social Security Act. It specifically protects people who lose SSI eligibility because they start receiving DAC benefits. This is super important to understand because you need to reference the correct provision when dealing with Medicaid.
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Christopher Morgan
I'm going through almost the same situation with my daughter (47, Down syndrome). The work history part was frustrating but we ended up attaching her earnings record printout from SSA along with a note explaining the limited information available. They accepted this. For your Medicaid question - this is a BIG ISSUE that many case workers don't understand correctly. Print out information about the "DAC Medicaid protection" or "1634(c) protection" and take it with you to all appointments. I learned this the hard way when a caseworker tried to terminate my daughter's Medicaid incorrectly. Also, there's a 5-month waiting period for DAC benefits to begin after approval and a 24-month waiting period for Medicare to start (counted from the start of DAC benefits).
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Olivia Evans
•Thank you so much for mentioning the waiting periods! I hadn't heard about the 5-month wait for benefits to begin. That's really important for my financial planning. And I'll definitely print out information about the DAC Medicaid protection - sounds like having documentation ready is crucial.
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Sophia Bennett
one more thing - make sure u keep copies of EVERYTHING u submit!!! i lost my brothers medicaid for 3 months because they "never received" our paperwork (they did). now i send everything certified mail or submit in person and get receipts. the system is a mess!!
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Olivia Evans
•That's excellent advice. I'll definitely send everything certified and keep meticulous records. I can't risk him losing coverage due to paperwork issues. Did you eventually get his Medicaid reinstated retroactively?
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Jayden Reed
I specialize in benefits coordination for adults with disabilities, and there are several nuanced points to consider with your situation: 1) Work history: You must disclose all work, but don't stress too much about details from decades ago. Provide what you have and explain the gaps. The SSA primarily wants to verify your son never engaged in SGA (Substantial Gainful Activity). 2) Medicaid protection is automatic when transitioning from SSI to DAC, but you must ensure the system properly codes this special status. Many beneficiaries lose coverage because of administrative errors, not actual eligibility issues. 3) Important timeline considerations: - DAC application processing: typically 3-5 months - 5-month waiting period after approval - 24-month Medicare waiting period 4) When your husband passes away, your son's benefits will indeed increase to 75% of your husband's PIA as a survivor benefit. This increase doesn't affect the Medicaid protection, but document everything during this transition as it's another point where administrative errors commonly occur. 5) The ABLE account is still beneficial for quality of life expenses and as a backup strategy if there are issues with the protected Medicaid status.
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Olivia Evans
•Thank you for this comprehensive response! I didn't realize DAC benefits would be 75% (not 100%) of my husband's PIA as a survivor benefit - that's important to know for future planning. And the timeline information is incredibly helpful. It sounds like I should prepare for nearly a year between application and Medicare eligibility.
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