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Sean Doyle

Will my disabled adult child get 50% of my SSDI amount or retirement PIA when I reach FRA?

I've been on SSDI since I was 63 (now 65) after a serious back injury ended my construction career. My 38-year-old son has been receiving benefits as my Disabled Adult Child (DAC) since he was diagnosed with severe autism at age 22. I'm trying to plan ahead for when I hit my full retirement age of 67 in 2027 and automatically switch from disability to retirement benefits. What I can't figure out is whether my son's DAC benefit will be calculated as 50% of what my SSDI payment has been all along, or if it will be based on my FRA Primary Insurance Amount (PIA). The difference would be about $287 monthly for him, which is significant for our budget. I've called SSA three times and gotten three different answers! Anyone dealt with this transition and know how it actually works? My local office appointment isn't until next month.

Your son's DAC benefits will continue to be calculated based on your PIA (Primary Insurance Amount), which is the same amount used to calculate your SSDI. When you convert from disability to retirement at FRA, your payment amount doesn't change - it's the same PIA amount - and neither will your son's DAC benefit. He'll continue to receive 50% of your PIA as long as he remains eligible. I went through this exact transition last year, and while I was worried about potential changes, my disabled daughter's benefit remained exactly the same after I switched from SSDI to retirement.

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Thank you for sharing your experience! That's reassuring to hear there was no change in your daughter's benefit amount. Did you have to do any paperwork or was the transition automatic? I'm still confused because an SSA rep told me the DAC benefit might be recalculated based on the retirement benefit amount, which she said could be different from my SSDI amount.

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The previous commenter is generally correct, but I want to clarify something important. Your disabled son's benefit will be 50% of your PIA (Primary Insurance Amount). Here's what happens: When you reach FRA, your SSDI automatically converts to retirement benefits, but the amount stays exactly the same (your PIA). Your son will continue to receive 50% of that amount as a DAC. The confusion might be because sometimes people conflate PIA with the actual benefit amount. But since you're taking retirement at exactly FRA (not early or delayed), your retirement benefit will equal your PIA, which is currently the basis for your SSDI. So in your specific case, there should be no change to either of your benefit amounts at the transition.

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my frind got less for her disable son when she hit retirment. SSA said somethin about recomputations? i think it depends on if u worked while on SSDI maybe

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The whole system is DESIGNED TO CONFUSE US!! I spent 8 months trying to get straight answers about my disabled daughter's benefits when I switched from SSDI to retirement. Every rep told me something different! One said benefits would increase, another said decrease, third said stay the same. When I finally got through to someone who knew what they were talking about, they explained the calculation depends on several factors including whether you worked while receiving SSDI and whether those earnings affected your PIA. The SSA's computer systems don't even talk to each other properly which is why you get different answers depending on who you talk to!!!!

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This is exactly what I'm afraid of! I did work part-time for about 18 months while on SSDI (staying under the SGA limit), and I reported all my earnings. I wonder if that could affect the recalculation? I'm going to bring printouts of all my earnings reports to my appointment next month.

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I had the hardest time getting through to someone at Social Security who could help me with almost the same question last year. After waiting on hold for hours multiple times and getting disconnected, I finally used Claimyr (claimyr.com) to reach an agent on my first try. They got me connected to a Technical Expert who specializes in DAC benefits who explained everything clearly. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU. Totally worth it to get answers from someone who actually knows the rules instead of basic call center staff.

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Does this actually work? I've been trying to reach someone at SSA for weeks about my disabled son's benefits!

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Yes, it worked for me when nothing else did. I was connected to an SSA rep in about 20 minutes instead of waiting on hold for hours or getting disconnected. The technical expert I spoke with knew exactly how DAC benefits work with the SSDI to retirement transition.

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hi there. my autistic son also gets DAC benefits. we went thru this last year when i turned 67. what happened was my benefit stayed EXACTLY the same when i switched from disability to retirement (they just call it something different). my sons benefit also stayed exactly the same amount which was a relief. the ssa lady told me that's because the PIA doesnt change. i was worried too because we depend on both checks to pay bills.

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Thanks for sharing your experience! It's good to know both benefits stayed the same for you. Did you have any work credits added during your SSDI period that might have changed your PIA?

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To address the work question that's come up: If you worked while receiving SSDI and stayed under the SGA limits, those earnings may potentially increase your PIA through recalculations. If your PIA increases due to these additional earnings, your son's DAC benefit could increase proportionally (still 50% of your new PIA). However, these recalculations don't happen automatically at FRA - they typically occur annually when SSA processes all earnings records. When you meet with your local office, ask specifically about an "AERO" recalculation (Automatic Earnings Reappraisal Operation). That's the process SSA uses to check if recent earnings would increase your benefit. Make sure to bring documentation of all work and earnings while on SSDI.

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This is extremely helpful information! I've never heard of the "AERO" recalculation before. I'll definitely ask about this at my appointment and bring all my earnings documentation. Really appreciate the detailed explanation.

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I just remembered something important for your situation. When your SSDI converts to retirement at FRA, make sure you check that your son remains properly coded as a DAC (Disabled Adult Child) beneficiary and not accidentally recoded as a regular child beneficiary. This happened to a friend, and it caused problems because regular child benefits end at age 18 (or 19 if still in high school). The payment amounts are the same (50% of your PIA), but the eligibility rules are different. Just something to watch for during the transition.

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this happened to my nephew to!! took like 4 months to fix and they had stopped his payments!! make sure u get it in writing that hes still DAC

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Wait I'm confused... isn't the PIA for retirement different than for SSDI? My brother said his retirement PIA was calculated differently. That's why I'm worried about my son's benefits changing when I hit retirement age next year. Does anyone know if they use the same formula?

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The confusion is understandable. The PIA calculation formula is actually the same for both SSDI and retirement. What might be different is the computation period used (years of earnings considered). For SSDI, the period ends when you became disabled, while for retirement it continues until you claim benefits. However, when someone on SSDI reaches FRA, they're simply converted to retirement benefits using the same PIA - there isn't a recalculation using a different formula. Any potential changes would come from additional earnings during the SSDI period that might trigger an AERO recalculation.

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Thanks everyone for all the helpful information! To summarize what I've learned: 1) My son's DAC benefit should stay at 50% of my PIA when I transition to retirement at FRA, 2) My PIA shouldn't change at transition, but might be recalculated through AERO if my part-time work increased my average earnings, 3) I need to verify my son remains coded as DAC during the transition, and 4) I should bring all my earnings documentation to my appointment. This has been so much more helpful than my calls to SSA! I'll update after my appointment next month to let everyone know what I find out.

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good luck! hope everything works out. the whole system is so confusing especially with disabled adult children involved. it took me months to figure everything out when i went through it

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I'm dealing with almost the exact same situation! My 35-year-old daughter has been getting DAC benefits since she was 25 due to intellectual disabilities, and I'm currently on SSDI planning for my FRA transition in 2026. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful - especially the point about making sure she stays coded as DAC and not accidentally switched to regular child benefits. I had no idea that could happen! I'm also concerned about the AERO recalculation since I did some consulting work while on SSDI (staying under SGA limits). Did anyone here actually see their DAC dependent's benefits increase due to the earnings recalculation, or does it usually not make much difference? I'm hoping for the best but trying to prepare for any changes to our monthly budget.

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Welcome to the community! I'm new here too but have been following this discussion closely since I'm in a similar boat. From what I've gathered from the experienced members here, the AERO recalculation seems to be hit or miss - some people see small increases if their part-time work raised their average earnings, while others see no change at all. The key seems to be whether your additional earnings were high enough to bump up your overall computation period average. One thing that stood out to me from reading everyone's experiences is that you should definitely ask for written confirmation about your daughter's DAC status during the transition. It sounds like coding errors happen more often than they should! I'm planning to take detailed notes at my appointment and maybe even record it (with permission) so I have everything documented. Good luck with your transition next year!

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As someone who works in disability advocacy, I want to add a few practical tips for your appointment next month. First, ask for a written summary of everything they tell you - SSA reps are supposed to provide this if requested. Second, if you get conflicting information again, ask to speak with a Claims Specialist or Technical Expert rather than a general service rep. Third, consider bringing a witness or advocate with you to help take notes and ask follow-up questions. The DAC to retirement transition should be straightforward, but having documentation protects both you and your son if any issues arise later. Also, make sure to get your son's current benefit verification letter before the transition so you have a baseline to compare against. The community here has given you excellent advice - the key points about PIA staying the same, AERO recalculations, and maintaining proper DAC coding are all spot-on. Best of luck with getting clear answers finally!

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This is fantastic advice! I'm new to navigating SSA but have been lurking here trying to learn before my own situation comes up. The tip about asking for a written summary is something I never would have thought of, and bringing a witness makes so much sense given how confusing and inconsistent the information can be. I'm curious - when you mention asking for a Claims Specialist or Technical Expert, is that something you can request right at the appointment or do you need to schedule separately? Also, is there a specific way to phrase the request to make sure they take it seriously? I've heard from others that sometimes the front desk staff will just say "our regular reps can handle that" even when they clearly can't. Really appreciate you sharing your professional insights with those of us trying to figure this system out!

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@Diego Castillo This is really valuable advice! As someone new to dealing with SSA, I m'wondering about the logistics of bringing a witness or advocate. Does it need to be someone with official credentials, or can it just be a family member or friend who s'good at taking notes? Also, when you mention getting a benefit verification letter before the transition, is that something Sean should request now or wait until closer to his FRA date? I m'trying to prepare for my own similar situation down the road and want to make sure I have all the documentation lined up properly. The idea of recording the appointment with (permission that) someone else mentioned seems smart too - have you seen people successfully do that at SSA offices?

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@Diego Castillo Thank you for the professional perspective! I had no idea I could request a written summary - that alone makes this advice worth its weight in gold given how many conflicting answers I ve'gotten. I m'definitely going to ask for a Claims Specialist since the regular reps clearly aren t'equipped to handle DAC transition questions. Quick question: should I get my son s'benefit verification letter now or wait until closer to the actual transition date? I want to have that baseline comparison you mentioned, but I m'not sure about timing. Also, bringing a witness is a great idea - my wife has been through all this confusion with me and takes much better notes than I do! Really appreciate you taking the time to share these practical tips with the community.

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I'm new to this community but wanted to share my recent experience since it might help. My husband went through this exact transition from SSDI to retirement at FRA last year, and our disabled son's DAC benefits stayed exactly the same - no changes at all. The whole process was actually much smoother than we expected after reading horror stories online. One thing I'd recommend based on our experience: when you go to your appointment, ask them to pull up both your record and your son's record on their screen at the same time. This way they can see the current coding and benefit amounts for both of you while you're sitting there. We did this and it helped the rep explain exactly what would happen during the transition. Also, don't be afraid to ask them to write down the key points as they explain them - we found that having the rep write it down (not just us taking notes) made them more careful about giving accurate information. Good luck with your appointment next month! The transition should be straightforward, but it's smart that you're preparing with all the right questions.

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Thanks for sharing your experience! That's a really smart tip about asking them to pull up both records on screen at the same time - I never would have thought of that but it makes perfect sense. It must have been such a relief when everything stayed the same for your son's benefits. I'm curious, did your husband have any work earnings during his SSDI period that might have triggered a recalculation? I'm trying to figure out if my part-time work while on SSDI is likely to cause any changes. Also, the idea of having the rep write down the key points themselves is brilliant - that way there's no confusion about what they actually said versus what we think we heard. I'm definitely going to use both of these strategies at my appointment. It's so helpful to hear from someone who actually went through this successfully!

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Hi Sean! I'm new to this community but wanted to share what I learned from my own recent experience navigating SSA with my disabled daughter. Reading through all the responses here, I think you've gotten excellent advice - especially about the PIA staying the same and asking for written documentation. One additional tip that helped me: when you go to your appointment, ask them to show you the exact benefit calculation on their computer screen. SSA reps can pull up a screen that shows your current PIA, your son's current DAC benefit rate, and how it's calculated. Having them walk through the actual numbers while you're sitting there eliminates any guesswork about what will happen during the transition. Also, I'd suggest calling ahead a day or two before your appointment to confirm they have all your son's current disability documentation on file. Sometimes there are delays in their system updates, and you don't want to get to the appointment only to find out they need additional paperwork. The fact that you've done part-time work while on SSDI actually puts you in a good position - if those earnings were significant enough to raise your PIA through AERO recalculation, both you and your son could potentially see a small increase rather than any decrease. Best of luck with getting clear answers finally!

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Hi Nathan! Welcome to the community! That's really helpful advice about asking them to show the actual calculation on their computer screen - I hadn't thought of that but it makes so much sense to see the actual numbers rather than just taking their word for it. Your point about calling ahead to confirm they have all the disability documentation is spot on too. I've had issues before where SSA claimed they didn't have paperwork that I knew I'd submitted months earlier. It's encouraging to hear that the part-time work might actually help rather than hurt our situation if it raised the PIA. I'm definitely feeling more confident about this appointment after reading everyone's experiences and advice here. Thanks for adding these practical tips - the community here has been incredibly helpful compared to the runaround I've gotten from SSA directly!

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Hi Sean! I'm new to this community but have been dealing with a similar situation. My disabled brother receives DAC benefits based on my father's record, and we went through this exact transition two years ago when my dad hit FRA. I wanted to add one thing that hasn't been mentioned yet - make sure to ask about the Family Maximum benefit limit at your appointment. In most cases, DAC benefits aren't affected by the family max, but it's worth confirming since you mentioned the dollar amount difference is significant to your budget. Also, I'd recommend bringing a copy of your son's original disability determination letter to the appointment. We found that having this documentation helped speed up the process and prevented any questions about his continued eligibility. The SSA rep was able to verify his DAC status immediately rather than having to look it up in their system. One more tip from our experience: if they mention anything about a "redetermination" of your son's disability status, don't panic. This is routine and separate from the benefit amount calculation. His DAC benefits should continue as long as his disability status remains unchanged. Good luck with your appointment - sounds like you're well prepared with all the great advice from this community!

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Hi Caden! Welcome to the community! That's a really important point about the Family Maximum benefit limit that I hadn't considered - thank you for bringing that up. I'll definitely ask about that at my appointment since every dollar matters in our situation. The tip about bringing my son's original disability determination letter is excellent too. I have it filed away somewhere and will make sure to dig it out and bring a copy. It makes sense that having that documentation readily available would speed things up and prevent any confusion about his eligibility status. Your point about the potential "redetermination" is reassuring - I would probably panic if they mentioned that without knowing it's just routine! It's so helpful to hear from someone who went through this exact situation with a family member just two years ago. Did your brother's benefit amount end up staying exactly the same, or were there any small changes due to recalculations? Thanks for adding these practical insights to help with my preparation!

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Hi Sean! I'm new to this community but wanted to share some encouragement based on what I've learned from everyone's responses here. It sounds like you've gotten incredibly thorough advice from the experienced members - much better than the conflicting information from SSA! I'm in a similar situation with my disabled adult son and have been dreading the transition from SSDI to retirement benefits next year. Reading through all these experiences has been really reassuring, especially hearing from multiple people that their DAC benefits stayed exactly the same during the transition. The checklist you created in your summary comment is perfect - I'm actually going to save it for my own future reference! I particularly appreciate the tips about asking for written documentation, requesting a Claims Specialist, and bringing the original disability determination letter. These are things I never would have thought of but make so much sense. One thing I'm wondering about from my own research: have you looked into whether your state has any disability advocacy organizations that could send someone with you to the appointment? Some states offer free advocates who specialize in SSA issues and can help ensure you get accurate information. It might be worth checking if that's available in your area. Thanks for posting this question - the community's responses have been invaluable for those of us facing similar transitions!

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Hi Keisha! Welcome to the community! I'm also new here but have been amazed at how helpful everyone has been compared to trying to get answers directly from SSA. Your suggestion about state disability advocacy organizations is brilliant - I hadn't thought of that but it makes perfect sense to have someone with expertise accompany me to the appointment. I'll definitely look into what's available in my area. It's both reassuring and concerning that so many of us are dealing with similar situations and getting inconsistent information from SSA. At least we can help each other navigate this confusing system! I'm planning to update the community after my appointment next month with exactly what I learn, so hopefully that will help you prepare for your own transition next year. Thanks for the encouragement and the great suggestion about advocacy organizations - this community really is invaluable for getting practical advice from people who've actually been through it!

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