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I just wanted to jump in as someone who's currently navigating this exact same situation! I'm turning 70 in December and have been stressing about that same delayed increase showing up in the SSA calculator. Reading through all these experiences has been such a relief - it's clear this timing quirk is completely normal and not something we need to worry about optimizing around. What really helped me understand it was the explanation about delayed retirement credits from the final year getting batch-processed in January. It's basically just an administrative delay, not an actual loss of benefits. I was overthinking it and wondering if I should wait until March to apply, but now I realize that would actually cost me money since credits stop accumulating at 70. I'm planning to apply next month and specify December 2025 as my start date. It's amazing how much stress can be relieved just by understanding that this confusion is universal - literally everyone seems to go through the same thing when approaching 70! Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences here. This thread has been incredibly valuable for understanding how the system actually works versus what the online calculator seems to suggest.

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Sean, I'm so glad you found this thread helpful too! It's really incredible how many of us have gone through this exact same stress and confusion about the SSA calculator timing. I was in the same boat just a few weeks ago, staring at that March increase and wondering if I was missing something important or making a costly mistake. Your December timing will work perfectly following the same pattern everyone has described here - you'll get your first payment in January 2026, then see that full increase after the January recalculation kicks in. The key insight for me was realizing this isn't about strategy or optimization, it's just understanding their administrative process. Definitely apply next month like you're planning and then try to stop overthinking it like the rest of us did! This community really has been a lifesaver for getting real-world perspectives on these confusing government systems that the official materials just don't explain well.

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I'm so grateful I found this discussion! As someone who's about to turn 70 next year, I've been losing sleep over this exact same timing confusion with the SSA calculator. Reading through everyone's experiences here has been incredibly reassuring - it's clear that delayed increase showing up months later is just a normal quirk of how their system processes final delayed retirement credits. What really helped me understand it was learning that the January recalculation is actually a regulatory requirement to ensure accuracy, not some computer glitch or mistake on my part. I was overthinking this whole thing and wondering if I needed to time my application perfectly, but now I realize it's just about understanding their administrative process. Based on all the advice here, I'm planning to apply about 6-8 weeks before my 70th birthday and specify my birthday month as the start date. It's such a relief to know that the "delay" is purely administrative and that I won't lose any money - I'll get every penny I've earned, just with that quirky timing that seems to stress out literally everyone who goes through this process. Thanks to everyone who shared their real-world experiences. This community is amazing for getting practical insights that the official SSA materials just don't explain clearly enough!

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I'm so grateful for this incredibly informative thread! I'm 62 and have been agonizing over whether to claim early while still working. Like so many others here, I had completely misunderstood how the earnings test works and thought any income over the annual limit would just wipe out benefits for the entire year. Learning about the grace year rule is absolutely revolutionary for my planning. The fact that SSA only looks at monthly earnings AFTER you retire in that first year makes early claiming so much more viable than I ever realized. I've been putting off this decision for months because I thought I'd essentially be throwing money away. What really bothers me is how poorly this rule is communicated. I've read through multiple SSA publications and even attended a Social Security seminar at my local library, and nobody ever mentioned this first-year exception. It seems like such crucial information for anyone considering early retirement while working. @Gemma Andrews - thank you especially for those practical tips about documentation and getting written confirmation. As someone who's never dealt with SSA before, I would never have thought to ask for a letter confirming they'll apply the monthly test. That advice alone could save me major headaches if there are system errors later. This community has provided more valuable, real-world guidance in one thread than I've gotten from hours of research elsewhere. Thank you all for sharing your experiences and knowledge!

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I'm completely new to this community and Social Security planning, but this thread has been absolutely eye-opening! I'm 61 and was honestly terrified about the whole early claiming process because everything seemed so confusing and contradictory. Like you, I had no idea about the grace year rule and was operating under the assumption that earning over the annual limit would just eliminate all benefits. Reading everyone's experiences here has completely changed my understanding of what's possible with early claiming while working. What strikes me most is how many knowledgeable, experienced people in this thread were also unaware of this rule initially. If seasoned community members didn't know about it, that really highlights how poorly SSA communicates these important provisions. It makes me wonder what other crucial information might be buried in their system that could help people make better decisions. I'm definitely going to bookmark this thread and refer back to @Gemma Andrews documentation' tips when I m'ready to start the process. The advice about using specific terminology when calling SSA and getting written confirmation seems invaluable for avoiding problems later. Thank you to everyone for creating such a supportive, informative discussion. As a newcomer, it s'incredibly reassuring to find a community where people share practical, real-world guidance about navigating these complex systems!

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As a newcomer to this community, I'm amazed by how helpful this discussion has been! I'm 64 and was completely overwhelmed trying to understand Social Security while still working part-time. The grace year rule is totally new information to me - I've been avoiding early claiming because I thought ANY earnings over the limit would eliminate benefits for the whole year. Reading that SSA only looks at post-retirement monthly earnings in that first year is incredibly reassuring and opens up possibilities I never considered. What's really striking is how many experienced members here were also unaware of this rule initially. It really shows how poorly SSA communicates these provisions. I've spent weeks reading their website and publications, and somehow this crucial information was never clearly explained. @Gemma Andrews - your documentation tips are invaluable, especially about getting written confirmation from SSA that they'll apply the monthly test. As someone who's never dealt with SSA before, I would never have thought to ask for that kind of protection. Thank you all for sharing such practical, real-world guidance. This thread has been more helpful than hours of trying to navigate official resources alone!

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Welcome to the community! I'm also relatively new here and had the exact same experience - this thread has been like finding a hidden treasure of practical Social Security information. I'm 63 and was in the same boat, thinking that working while claiming early would just be pointless because of the earnings test. The grace year rule discussion here has completely changed my retirement timeline. I was planning to wait until 67, but now I'm seriously considering claiming at 63 and working part-time for a few more years. The fact that so many knowledgeable people here didn't know about this rule really says something about how SSA presents information. I've already started organizing my documentation based on @Gemma Andrews suggestions' - creating a folder specifically for tracking my planned retirement date, earnings projections, and any correspondence with SSA. Her advice about using specific terminology like grace "year rule when" calling seems crucial too. It s'incredible how this one thread has provided more clarity than weeks of trying to decode SSA publications. This community is such a valuable resource for people navigating these complex decisions!

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As a newcomer here, I want to say how helpful this discussion has been! I'm in a similar situation with my spouse and had no idea about the survivor benefit rules. One question I have after reading through all the responses: Is there a specific timeframe after a spouse passes away that the surviving spouse needs to apply for survivor benefits? I'm wondering if there's any risk of missing a deadline or if the switch to survivor benefits can happen automatically. Also, does the surviving spouse need to be receiving their own Social Security benefits already to be eligible for survivor benefits, or can someone who never claimed their own benefits still get survivor benefits?

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Great questions! From what I've learned from this discussion and my own research, there's no specific deadline for applying for survivor benefits - you can apply anytime after your spouse passes away. However, survivor benefits can only be paid retroactively for up to 6 months, so you don't want to wait too long or you might miss some payments. The switch isn't automatic - you do need to contact SSA and apply, bringing documents like the death certificate and marriage license as mentioned earlier. And yes, you can absolutely get survivor benefits even if you never claimed your own retirement benefits! In fact, that might be a strategic advantage since you could potentially get a higher survivor benefit without being locked into a reduced personal benefit. The eligibility is based on your spouse's work record, not your own claiming history.

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Welcome to the community, Savannah! You've asked excellent questions that many people don't think about until they need to. To build on CyberNinja's response, I'd add a few important points: You actually have up to 2 years from the month your spouse dies to apply for survivor benefits without losing any back payments (not just 6 months). The 6-month rule applies to other types of benefits. Also, survivor benefits can start as early as age 60 (or age 50 if you're disabled), though they'll be reduced if claimed before your full retirement age. One strategy some widows use is to claim survivor benefits early if they're higher than their own projected benefit, then switch to their own benefit at age 70 if it would be higher due to delayed retirement credits. The opposite can also work - claim your own reduced benefit early, then switch to full survivor benefits later. The key is understanding which benefit would be higher at different ages and planning accordingly.

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Thank you Emma for that detailed explanation! The 2-year window is much more reassuring than I thought. I'm particularly interested in the strategy you mentioned about claiming survivor benefits early and then potentially switching to your own benefits at 70 if they'd be higher. I hadn't realized you could do it in that direction too. This gives me a lot to think about for my own planning. One follow-up question - when you switch from survivor benefits to your own delayed retirement credits at 70, do you lose any of the survivor benefit permanently, or could you theoretically switch back if circumstances changed? I know it's probably unlikely to be beneficial, but I'm curious about the flexibility in the system.

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The mystery is solved! Based on all the discussion here, it's definitely your severance payment that triggered this. I went through the exact same thing last year. Here's what I learned: SSA has up to 3 years to make adjustments when new earnings information comes in, and severance payments often take months to show up in their system because employers report them separately from regular wages. Your $15K severance + part-time earnings puts you over the annual limit, so they're recovering the overpayment. When you appeal, ask for a "complete earnings test worksheet" showing exactly which months and amounts they're using in their calculation. Also request written confirmation of your full retirement age date when the earnings test stops applying. The good news is any benefits withheld due to the earnings test will be credited back to you at FRA through increased monthly payments. It's frustrating but totally fixable once you get the documentation!

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Wow, thank you everyone for helping solve this puzzle! I feel so much better now understanding what happened. The severance payment explanation makes complete sense - I had no idea it would count toward the earnings limit or that it could take months to show up in SSA's system. I'm going to file the appeal using form SSA-561-U2 and request that detailed earnings test worksheet like you suggested. At least now I know what to ask for and what documentation to include. This community is amazing - I went from complete panic to actually understanding my situation! Will definitely update once I get through the appeal process.

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I'm so glad you got to the bottom of this! Your situation is a perfect example of why SSA's notices can be so confusing - they don't always explain the "why" behind adjustments. For anyone else reading this thread who might face similar issues, here are the key takeaways: 1) Severance payments DO count as wages for Social Security purposes and are subject to the earnings test if you're under FRA, 2) It can take months for employers to report these payments to SSA, causing delayed adjustments, 3) Always request specific documentation in your appeal - phrases like "detailed earnings test calculation" and "complete breakdown of benefit computation factors" get better results than general complaints. Sofia, make sure to keep copies of everything you submit with your appeal, and don't hesitate to follow up if you don't hear back within their stated timeframe. Good luck with the process!

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I'm new to this community but dealing with the exact same WEP transparency issue! Just started receiving benefits 2 months ago and my statement is completely useless - just shows the final reduced amount with zero explanation of how they calculated the WEP reduction. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly enlightening and honestly pretty shocking. The number of people who found calculation errors when they finally got their detailed worksheets is both encouraging and concerning. It makes me wonder how many folks are just accepting incorrect benefit amounts because they don't know they can request the breakdown. I have 16 years of substantial earnings under SS and 18 years with a municipal pension, so I know WEP applies but I want to verify they're calculating it correctly. Based on all the great advice shared here, I'm going to call SSA and specifically request a "detailed WEP calculation worksheet" showing my substantial earnings years. If I get someone who seems unfamiliar with WEP, I'll ask for a specialist like Zoe suggested. The tip about checking my earnings history online first and cross-referencing with substantial earnings thresholds is brilliant - I'll definitely do that before calling. Thanks to everyone for sharing such detailed, actionable advice. This thread should be required reading for anyone dealing with WEP confusion!

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Welcome to the community, NeonNinja! Your situation with 16 years of substantial earnings is really important to get verified correctly since you're close to the 20-year threshold where WEP penalties start decreasing significantly. Based on everything shared in this thread, it's clear that SSA makes mistakes more often than they should, so definitely worth getting that detailed worksheet. I'm also new here but have learned so much from everyone's experiences. The consistency of advice about using specific terminology when calling ("detailed WEP calculation worksheet" or "detailed PIA computation with WEP adjustment") and asking for WEP/GPO specialists really shows this community knows what works. Like you said, it's incredible how many success stories there are of people finding errors and getting corrections. It really drives home that we have to be our own advocates with Social Security. Good luck with your call - hopefully you'll be another success story to add to this thread!

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I'm new to this community but going through the exact same WEP frustration! Started receiving benefits 4 months ago and like everyone else here, my statement just shows the final amount with absolutely no breakdown of the WEP reduction. I have 19 years of substantial earnings under SS and 15 years with a federal pension. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful - especially the specific terminology to use when calling SSA. I had no idea I could ask for a "detailed WEP calculation worksheet" or request to speak with someone who specializes in WEP/GPO cases. The number of people who found calculation errors is both encouraging and alarming! What really motivated me to finally tackle this is seeing Yara's mom got a $175/month increase and Keisha found 2 missing years in her calculation. With 19 years of substantial earnings, I'm right at the threshold where even one additional year could make a significant difference in my WEP penalty. I'm definitely going to pull my earnings history online first to check against the substantial earnings thresholds, then call using all the great advice shared here. Thanks to everyone for making this complex process so much clearer - this thread is a goldmine of actionable information!

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