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btw if you do go to the ssa office bring EVERYTHING with you - birth certificate, ss card, photo id, tax returns, everything!!! they always ask for something you dont have

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Good advice - I'll make sure to gather all my documents well in advance. Better to have everything and not need it than be missing something critical!

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One additional tip - you can actually apply online at ssa.gov which can be much more convenient than going to an office. The online application is available 24/7 and you can save your progress if you need to gather additional information. I applied online for my benefits and it was pretty straightforward. You'll still need to have your documents ready to reference while filling it out, but you won't have to physically bring copies unless they specifically request them later. Just make sure you have a my Social Security account set up first, as that makes the whole process smoother.

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That's really helpful to know about the online option! I was dreading having to take time off work to go to an SSA office and potentially wait for hours. Being able to apply online at my own pace sounds much better. Do you know if the online application processes just as quickly as in-person applications, or is there any difference in timing?

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As a newcomer here, I wanted to add my voice to the chorus confirming that the SSA rep gave you completely wrong information! I'm actually going through a very similar situation right now - I'm 67 and lost my wife last year. I successfully filed for survivor benefits 3 months ago using exactly the strategy you're planning. The key thing that worked for me was being incredibly explicit about what I wanted. I literally said "I am filing ONLY for survivor benefits today. I do NOT want to apply for my own retirement benefits. I understand these are two separate applications and I will file for my own retirement benefits at age 70." I also found it helpful to mention that I was aware of the 2015 law changes but understood those only affected spousal benefits, not survivor benefits. This seemed to signal to the agent that I had done my research. Don't let them discourage you - your strategy is absolutely correct and will save you thousands of dollars over your lifetime compared to taking both benefits now. Just be prepared to politely but firmly correct any misinformation they give you during the call!

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Thank you for sharing your recent experience - it's so reassuring to hear from someone who just went through this successfully! I really appreciate the specific language you used about filing ONLY for survivor benefits and explicitly stating you do NOT want retirement benefits. That's much clearer than how I was planning to phrase it. Your point about mentioning the 2015 law changes to show you've done your research is smart too - it should help establish credibility with the agent. I'm sorry for your loss, but I'm grateful you're sharing what worked for you to help others navigate this confusing process. Did you receive confirmation documentation afterward that clearly stated you had only applied for survivor benefits?

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As a newcomer to this community, I wanted to share my perspective since I just helped my sister navigate this exact situation last month. The SSA representative you spoke with is definitely wrong - restricted applications for survivor benefits absolutely still exist and are completely legal. My sister is 65 and was widowed two years ago. She had the same plan as you: take survivor benefits now and switch to her own larger benefit at 70. When she first called SSA, the initial rep told her the same thing - that "restricted applications don't exist anymore." This is a common misconception among frontline staff who confuse the 2015 changes to spousal benefits with survivor benefits. Here's what worked for her: She called back and specifically said "I need to file a restricted application for widow's benefits only. I am NOT filing for my own retirement benefits at this time." When the second rep seemed uncertain, she asked to speak with a technical expert who immediately understood what she needed. The key is being very direct about what you want and not backing down if they seem confused. Your strategy is not only legal but financially smart - don't let misinformed staff derail your plan! Document everything during your call and get the agent's name and extension. If needed, don't hesitate to ask for a supervisor. You've got this! Stay confident in your research because you're absolutely right.

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Thank you so much for sharing your sister's experience! It's incredibly helpful to hear that she encountered the exact same initial pushback from SSA staff. I love the specific phrasing she used - "I need to file a restricted application for widow's benefits only" - that sounds very clear and direct. The fact that the technical expert immediately understood gives me a lot of confidence that I just need to get to the right person who knows the rules properly. I'll definitely document everything during my call and won't hesitate to ask for a supervisor if needed. It's amazing how many people in this community have had similar experiences with misinformed frontline staff. Your advice to stay confident is exactly what I needed to hear - I was starting to second-guess myself after that confusing call!

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I just wanted to jump in as someone who's currently navigating this exact same situation! I'm turning 70 in December and have been stressing about that same delayed increase showing up in the SSA calculator. Reading through all these experiences has been such a relief - it's clear this timing quirk is completely normal and not something we need to worry about optimizing around. What really helped me understand it was the explanation about delayed retirement credits from the final year getting batch-processed in January. It's basically just an administrative delay, not an actual loss of benefits. I was overthinking it and wondering if I should wait until March to apply, but now I realize that would actually cost me money since credits stop accumulating at 70. I'm planning to apply next month and specify December 2025 as my start date. It's amazing how much stress can be relieved just by understanding that this confusion is universal - literally everyone seems to go through the same thing when approaching 70! Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences here. This thread has been incredibly valuable for understanding how the system actually works versus what the online calculator seems to suggest.

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Sean, I'm so glad you found this thread helpful too! It's really incredible how many of us have gone through this exact same stress and confusion about the SSA calculator timing. I was in the same boat just a few weeks ago, staring at that March increase and wondering if I was missing something important or making a costly mistake. Your December timing will work perfectly following the same pattern everyone has described here - you'll get your first payment in January 2026, then see that full increase after the January recalculation kicks in. The key insight for me was realizing this isn't about strategy or optimization, it's just understanding their administrative process. Definitely apply next month like you're planning and then try to stop overthinking it like the rest of us did! This community really has been a lifesaver for getting real-world perspectives on these confusing government systems that the official materials just don't explain well.

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I'm so grateful I found this discussion! As someone who's about to turn 70 next year, I've been losing sleep over this exact same timing confusion with the SSA calculator. Reading through everyone's experiences here has been incredibly reassuring - it's clear that delayed increase showing up months later is just a normal quirk of how their system processes final delayed retirement credits. What really helped me understand it was learning that the January recalculation is actually a regulatory requirement to ensure accuracy, not some computer glitch or mistake on my part. I was overthinking this whole thing and wondering if I needed to time my application perfectly, but now I realize it's just about understanding their administrative process. Based on all the advice here, I'm planning to apply about 6-8 weeks before my 70th birthday and specify my birthday month as the start date. It's such a relief to know that the "delay" is purely administrative and that I won't lose any money - I'll get every penny I've earned, just with that quirky timing that seems to stress out literally everyone who goes through this process. Thanks to everyone who shared their real-world experiences. This community is amazing for getting practical insights that the official SSA materials just don't explain clearly enough!

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I'm so grateful for this incredibly informative thread! I'm 62 and have been agonizing over whether to claim early while still working. Like so many others here, I had completely misunderstood how the earnings test works and thought any income over the annual limit would just wipe out benefits for the entire year. Learning about the grace year rule is absolutely revolutionary for my planning. The fact that SSA only looks at monthly earnings AFTER you retire in that first year makes early claiming so much more viable than I ever realized. I've been putting off this decision for months because I thought I'd essentially be throwing money away. What really bothers me is how poorly this rule is communicated. I've read through multiple SSA publications and even attended a Social Security seminar at my local library, and nobody ever mentioned this first-year exception. It seems like such crucial information for anyone considering early retirement while working. @Gemma Andrews - thank you especially for those practical tips about documentation and getting written confirmation. As someone who's never dealt with SSA before, I would never have thought to ask for a letter confirming they'll apply the monthly test. That advice alone could save me major headaches if there are system errors later. This community has provided more valuable, real-world guidance in one thread than I've gotten from hours of research elsewhere. Thank you all for sharing your experiences and knowledge!

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I'm completely new to this community and Social Security planning, but this thread has been absolutely eye-opening! I'm 61 and was honestly terrified about the whole early claiming process because everything seemed so confusing and contradictory. Like you, I had no idea about the grace year rule and was operating under the assumption that earning over the annual limit would just eliminate all benefits. Reading everyone's experiences here has completely changed my understanding of what's possible with early claiming while working. What strikes me most is how many knowledgeable, experienced people in this thread were also unaware of this rule initially. If seasoned community members didn't know about it, that really highlights how poorly SSA communicates these important provisions. It makes me wonder what other crucial information might be buried in their system that could help people make better decisions. I'm definitely going to bookmark this thread and refer back to @Gemma Andrews documentation' tips when I m'ready to start the process. The advice about using specific terminology when calling SSA and getting written confirmation seems invaluable for avoiding problems later. Thank you to everyone for creating such a supportive, informative discussion. As a newcomer, it s'incredibly reassuring to find a community where people share practical, real-world guidance about navigating these complex systems!

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As a newcomer to this community, I'm amazed by how helpful this discussion has been! I'm 64 and was completely overwhelmed trying to understand Social Security while still working part-time. The grace year rule is totally new information to me - I've been avoiding early claiming because I thought ANY earnings over the limit would eliminate benefits for the whole year. Reading that SSA only looks at post-retirement monthly earnings in that first year is incredibly reassuring and opens up possibilities I never considered. What's really striking is how many experienced members here were also unaware of this rule initially. It really shows how poorly SSA communicates these provisions. I've spent weeks reading their website and publications, and somehow this crucial information was never clearly explained. @Gemma Andrews - your documentation tips are invaluable, especially about getting written confirmation from SSA that they'll apply the monthly test. As someone who's never dealt with SSA before, I would never have thought to ask for that kind of protection. Thank you all for sharing such practical, real-world guidance. This thread has been more helpful than hours of trying to navigate official resources alone!

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Welcome to the community! I'm also relatively new here and had the exact same experience - this thread has been like finding a hidden treasure of practical Social Security information. I'm 63 and was in the same boat, thinking that working while claiming early would just be pointless because of the earnings test. The grace year rule discussion here has completely changed my retirement timeline. I was planning to wait until 67, but now I'm seriously considering claiming at 63 and working part-time for a few more years. The fact that so many knowledgeable people here didn't know about this rule really says something about how SSA presents information. I've already started organizing my documentation based on @Gemma Andrews suggestions' - creating a folder specifically for tracking my planned retirement date, earnings projections, and any correspondence with SSA. Her advice about using specific terminology like grace "year rule when" calling seems crucial too. It s'incredible how this one thread has provided more clarity than weeks of trying to decode SSA publications. This community is such a valuable resource for people navigating these complex decisions!

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As a newcomer here, I want to say how helpful this discussion has been! I'm in a similar situation with my spouse and had no idea about the survivor benefit rules. One question I have after reading through all the responses: Is there a specific timeframe after a spouse passes away that the surviving spouse needs to apply for survivor benefits? I'm wondering if there's any risk of missing a deadline or if the switch to survivor benefits can happen automatically. Also, does the surviving spouse need to be receiving their own Social Security benefits already to be eligible for survivor benefits, or can someone who never claimed their own benefits still get survivor benefits?

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Great questions! From what I've learned from this discussion and my own research, there's no specific deadline for applying for survivor benefits - you can apply anytime after your spouse passes away. However, survivor benefits can only be paid retroactively for up to 6 months, so you don't want to wait too long or you might miss some payments. The switch isn't automatic - you do need to contact SSA and apply, bringing documents like the death certificate and marriage license as mentioned earlier. And yes, you can absolutely get survivor benefits even if you never claimed your own retirement benefits! In fact, that might be a strategic advantage since you could potentially get a higher survivor benefit without being locked into a reduced personal benefit. The eligibility is based on your spouse's work record, not your own claiming history.

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Welcome to the community, Savannah! You've asked excellent questions that many people don't think about until they need to. To build on CyberNinja's response, I'd add a few important points: You actually have up to 2 years from the month your spouse dies to apply for survivor benefits without losing any back payments (not just 6 months). The 6-month rule applies to other types of benefits. Also, survivor benefits can start as early as age 60 (or age 50 if you're disabled), though they'll be reduced if claimed before your full retirement age. One strategy some widows use is to claim survivor benefits early if they're higher than their own projected benefit, then switch to their own benefit at age 70 if it would be higher due to delayed retirement credits. The opposite can also work - claim your own reduced benefit early, then switch to full survivor benefits later. The key is understanding which benefit would be higher at different ages and planning accordingly.

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Thank you Emma for that detailed explanation! The 2-year window is much more reassuring than I thought. I'm particularly interested in the strategy you mentioned about claiming survivor benefits early and then potentially switching to your own benefits at 70 if they'd be higher. I hadn't realized you could do it in that direction too. This gives me a lot to think about for my own planning. One follow-up question - when you switch from survivor benefits to your own delayed retirement credits at 70, do you lose any of the survivor benefit permanently, or could you theoretically switch back if circumstances changed? I know it's probably unlikely to be beneficial, but I'm curious about the flexibility in the system.

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