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Thank you all for the helpful information! I just submitted my application online and made sure to request retroactive benefits starting from the month I reached FRA. The system estimates I'll receive approximately $2,750 monthly. I've set a reminder to follow up if I don't see any updates in my mysocialsecurity account within the next 3 weeks. I'll update this thread once I receive my first payment for anyone who might be in a similar situation.

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Jabari-Jo

Congrats on applying! That's a good benefit amount. Be prepared for it to be a bit less after Medicare premiums if you're enrolled. Also, remember your first year receiving benefits may impact your tax situation, so you might want to have extra withholding or make estimated tax payments if needed.

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Just a technical clarification: Social Security benefits are paid in the month following the month for which they are due. So if you apply today with benefits starting this month (April 2025), your April benefit would be paid in May, May's benefit in June, and so on. Regarding processing time, the SSA's current average is approximately 3-4 weeks for straightforward retirement benefit applications. However, if there are any issues requiring manual review, it can take longer. Once approved, your payment date is determined by your birth date, as others have explained. The retroactive benefits provision at FRA is important - you can request up to 6 months of retroactive benefits, but you must specifically request this during application or within 6 months of filing. The retroactive payments are typically included in your first regular payment.

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This all sounds right based on my experience. One thing I'd add is that the online account updates can lag behind the actual processing. My account didn't show approval until just a few days before my first deposit hit.

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One more thing to add - if you're concerned about work income affecting your benefits, you can use the anonymous calculators on ssa.gov to see how the earnings limit might impact you. The Retirement Earnings Test Calculator doesn't require any personal information. For 2025, if you're under FRA, you lose $1 in benefits for every $2 earned above $24,150. Different rules apply in the year you reach FRA.

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Thank you! I'm actually 63 and considering going back to work part-time, but I wasn't sure how much I could earn before it affected my retirement benefits. I'll check out that calculator.

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Max Reyes

Based on what you're describing (concerns about back payments and work income), it sounds like you might be dealing with a potential overpayment situation or the earnings test for early retirement benefits. These are complex areas where getting accurate, personalized advice is crucial. While you can get general information anonymously, at some point, you'll need to discuss your specific case with SSA. When you do, remember that being proactive about reporting changes or concerns almost always leads to better outcomes than waiting for SSA to discover issues later.

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You're right. I think I'll start with some anonymous general questions and then bite the bullet and talk to them directly once I understand the basics better. Thanks for the advice!

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After reading through all the responses, I wanted to clarify something important: The earnings test withholding and subsequent adjustment at FRA is NOT the same as DRCs from suspension. They're calculated differently. If you're working enough that most of your benefits would be withheld anyway, voluntary suspension might not make much practical difference to your cash flow, but would still provide additional DRCs on top of the earnings test adjustment. It's complicated enough that I'd recommend getting an official calculation from SSA based on your specific birth date, claiming date, and earnings. The precise numbers matter a lot.

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Thank you - this makes sense. I think I need to get an official calculation as you suggested. I'm realizing there's no simple formula for this situation.

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Just curious, have u considered working more hours now to intentionally go over the earnings limit by a lot? If ur gonna get most benefits withheld anyway, might as well earn more $$ now, right?

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That's a really interesting suggestion! I hadn't thought about it that way, but you're right - if most of my SS is getting withheld anyway, I might as well earn more now. My part-time job would probably let me pick up more hours. Thanks for the perspective!

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One more important thing: when your father-in-law goes to his appointment, he should bring his and your mother-in-law's: - Birth certificates - Marriage certificate - Her death certificate - Most recent tax return - His Social Security card Also, he should be prepared to provide information about any previous marriages either of them had, including dates and documentation if available. And absolutely have him use the exact phrase "I want to file a restricted application for survivor benefits only while delaying my retirement benefit until age 70." Being very specific with this language helps ensure he gets the correct outcome.

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Thank you for this detailed list! He has all those documents ready - I made sure he gathered everything after mom passed away. I'm going to have him practice saying that exact phrase so he doesn't get flustered during the appointment. This is all so stressful on top of still grieving.

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my uncle did this i think. he got my aunts benifits after she died but then swtiched to his own later when he turned 70. he said it was confusing but worked out good in the end. hope your father in law gets what he deserves!!

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That's encouraging to hear! It's exactly what we're trying to do. It's such a common situation that I'm surprised the SSA representatives aren't better trained on it. But from everything I've read here and elsewhere, it sounds like we just need to be persistent and clear about what we're asking for.

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One more thing to consider: if you do apply for retirement while waiting for SSDI, make sure to tell SSA that you want the disability onset date preserved. This technical detail ensures you get the maximum possible retroactive benefits if your disability claim is approved. There's a specific way they need to note this in your file. Also, since you mentioned being an amputee, your condition might qualify under the Compassionate Allowance program, which could speed up your disability decision significantly. Did your disability examiner mention this possibility to you?

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Thank you for that important detail about preserving the onset date! No, nobody mentioned anything about a Compassionate Allowance program to me. I'll definitely ask about this when I contact SSA. Is this something I need to specifically request, or should they automatically consider it based on my medical condition?

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They should evaluate your case for Compassionate Allowance automatically based on your medical records, but it never hurts to specifically mention it. Certain amputations do qualify, though it depends on the specifics of your condition. When you speak with SSA, just ask if your case is being considered under the Compassionate Allowance program. If it is, that could reduce your wait time from months to weeks. Regarding preserving your onset date while receiving retirement - this is something you should explicitly request when applying for retirement benefits. Just tell them: "I want to file for retirement while my disability application is pending, but I want to preserve my disability onset date." They'll know what to do, but having it noted properly in your file can make a big difference in potential back payments.

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This is extremely helpful information - thank you! I'll make sure to use those exact words about preserving the onset date. I really appreciate everyone's advice here. I'm going to contact SSA tomorrow and apply for my retirement benefits while continuing with the disability process. At least that will give me some income while I wait for the final SSDI decision.

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I want to add one more important piece of information: once you reach FRA, you can apply for your retirement benefits without worry because you have what's called "protected filing status." This means that even if there are processing delays or confusion, SSA must preserve your filing date and pay you any back payments you're entitled to. Also, your son's benefits as a disabled adult child on your husband's record are completely protected by law and cannot be reduced or eliminated based on your benefit choices. You're making a smart decision to look into this now, as many people leave money on the table by not checking all their options at FRA.

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Excellent point about protected filing status at FRA. I'd also add that OP should print and save a copy of the submission confirmation page when applying online. Having that document with the confirmation number has saved many people headaches when there are processing issues.

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My brother is disabled and gets SS benefits. When my mom switched her benefits it didn't affect him at all so I think you're worrying too much. But the system is SO BROKEN you should expect problems anyway!!! It took them FOREVER to process my disability claim!!!

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Thanks for sharing your experience. It's reassuring to know your brother's benefits weren't affected. I'm definitely going to proceed with caution though!

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just wondering but is anyone else here worried about ss running out of money? my nephew told me the trust fund will be broke in 2034 and we'll only get like 75% of our benefits

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While it's true the trust fund faces challenges, the system won't collapse entirely. Without legislative changes, after 2034-2035 (depending on which report you read), Social Security would still pay about 76-78% of promised benefits from ongoing payroll taxes. But historically, Congress has always acted before reaching that point. They could raise the payroll tax cap, increase retirement age, or make other adjustments. For current retirees and those close to retirement age, the impact will likely be minimal.

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Update: I called SSA this morning (took forever to get through!) and have an appointment next week to apply for the survivor benefits. The representative confirmed that since we were married over 10 years and I haven't remarried, I'm eligible even though we were divorced. She also verified I can take these benefits now while letting my own retirement benefit grow until 70. Thanks everyone for your help and advice!

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That's great news! Congrats on getting an appointment so quickly. This approach could add thousands to your lifetime benefits. Make sure to bring all your documentation to the appointment - birth certificate, marriage certificate, divorce decree, his death certificate, and your ID. Let us know how it goes!

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Smart move! My mom did something similar and it worked out great. Those 4 years of survivor benefits really helped her finances, and then at 70 her own benefit was much higher. Best of both worlds.

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To address your original question about the COLA: The 2025 COLA would be announced in October 2024 and take effect with December 2024 benefits (paid in January 2025). Since your benefits begin with January 2025 (paid in February), your initial benefit amount will already include the 2025 COLA adjustment. For future reference, COLAs work like this: - Announced in October of each year (based on the CPI-W from Q3) - Applied to December benefits (which are paid in January) - All beneficiaries receiving payments for January or later in that year get the increased amount Since you're starting in January 2025 (with payment in February), you'll receive the full 2025 COLA from the beginning.

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Wait so does this mean people who start benefits after January don't get the full yearly COLA? Like if someone starts in July do they only get half of the yearly increase??

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No, that's not how it works. The COLA is applied to all benefits for the entire year. If you start benefits in July 2025, your initial benefit calculation will already include the 2025 COLA that was applied in January. You get the full annual COLA regardless of when you start benefits during the year - the increase is built into the benefit formula for the entire year.

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Thank you all so much for the helpful responses! To summarize what I've learned: 1. My January 2025 benefit (paid in February) will automatically include the 2025 COLA 2. The delay to February is just the normal payment cycle (January entitlement paid in February) 3. I should double-check my MySocialSecurity account when the award letter arrives to confirm everything This community has been incredibly helpful - I was really worried about losing out on the COLA increase for my budget planning. I appreciate everyone taking the time to explain how this works!

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One additional point: if you do need confirmation of your application status for financial planning purposes, you can request a "Benefit Verification Letter" once your application is processed. This official document confirms your benefit amount and start date, and many financial institutions accept it as proof of income for loans, housing applications, etc. You may be able to get this even before your first payment is issued. If your application isn't showing progress within 30 days of your intended start date (so by early February), that would be a good time to make a more concerted effort to speak with an SSA representative.

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Thank you for that suggestion! I didn't know about the Benefit Verification Letter option. That would definitely help with some of the financial planning I need to do. I'll watch for movement by early February and try to reach out then if needed.

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PrinceJoe

btw i think FRA is 67 not 65 now so r u taking early benefits at 65? that might be why its taking longer cuz they have to calculate the reduction

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Yes, I'm taking them early. I didn't realize that might make the process take longer. That's good to know!

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To clarify: taking benefits early (before Full Retirement Age) shouldn't significantly impact processing time. The reduction calculations are automated in SSA's systems. However, applications with complications like foreign employment, government pensions (WEP/GPO issues), or earnings limit concerns may take longer to process. Standard early retirement applications should follow similar timeframes to FRA applications.

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To clarify for everyone: According to SSA's official payment schedule, the 4th Wednesday group will receive their December 2025 payment on Wednesday, December 24th. If you're concerned about banking delays (which are common during the holiday season), I recommend: 1) Check with your specific bank about their holiday processing times, 2) Set up account alerts to know exactly when the deposit posts, and 3) Try to keep a small financial buffer if possible to account for potential delays.

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Thank you so much for this clear information! I'll call my bank next week to ask about their holiday processing schedule. This helps a lot with my holiday budgeting plans.

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