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Social Security filing timeline confusion - apply at 65 or wait until FRA at 67?

My 65th birthday is coming up in three weeks, and I'm totally confused about when I should notify Social Security about my retirement plans. I know my Full Retirement Age (FRA) is 67, and I understand I can apply now for reduced benefits. But since I'm still working part-time and don't really need the money right now, I'm thinking about waiting until either 67 or maybe even 70 to maximize the monthly amount. What's throwing me off is whether I need to tell SSA about my plans NOW even if I'm not going to start benefits until later? Do I need to file some kind of "intent to delay" paperwork at 65, or can I just contact them whenever I'm actually ready to start receiving benefits? I don't want to mess something up by not doing the right paperwork at the right time. Thanks for any guidance!

Wow, I'm blown away by all the helpful responses! Thank you everyone. So to summarize what I've learned: 1. I don't need to notify SSA about delaying retirement benefits 2. I SHOULD apply for Medicare now (will do that this week) 3. When I decide to collect (probably at 70), I just apply then 4. There's an earnings limit before FRA but not after 5. I need to be aware of the 6-month retroactivity limit This forum has been so much more helpful than the official SSA website! I feel much better informed now.

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That's a perfect summary! Wish I'd had this info laid out so clearly when I was figuring it all out. Good luck with everything!

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Great thread! I'm going through something similar - just turned 64 and planning my strategy. One thing I'd add is to create a my Social Security account online at ssa.gov if you haven't already. It shows your earnings record and benefit estimates at different claiming ages, which really helps with planning. You can see exactly how much you'd get at 62, FRA, and 70. Also, don't forget that Social Security benefits may be taxable depending on your other income - something to factor in when deciding on timing. The online account also lets you get benefit verification letters if you need them for other purposes while you're waiting to claim.

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Can Social Security pay 6 months retroactive benefits when filing at age 70 and 6 months?

Hi everyone, I just turned 70 and a half last month and FINALLY got around to applying for my SS retirement. My neighbor said I'd get 6 months of back payments automatically since I'm past 70. Is that actually true? The SSA rep I talked to seemed confused when I asked about it. I thought backpay only happened if you filed before your FRA? I've been working part-time so I wasn't in a rush to file, but I definitely don't want to leave money on the table if I'm owed those 6 months! Anyone gone through this process lately?

Just wanted to add that if you're still working part-time, make sure to let SSA know about your earnings when you apply. Even though you're past 70 and there's no earnings limit, they'll need this info for tax reporting purposes. Also, since you mentioned the rep seemed confused - I'd recommend getting everything in writing or asking for a supervisor if you have any doubts. With retroactive benefits potentially worth thousands of dollars, it's worth making sure they process everything correctly the first time. Good luck with your application!

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I'm dealing with a similar situation right now - turning 70 next month and planning to file soon after. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful! It sounds like the 6-month retroactive benefit is definitely something you're entitled to, but the key seems to be making sure you get a knowledgeable SSA representative. One thing I'm curious about - for those of you who successfully received the retroactive payments, did you have to provide any special documentation about when you became eligible, or was it all handled automatically based on your birth date and application date? I want to make sure I have everything ready when I apply to avoid any delays or confusion. Also, it's really concerning how many people are reporting that SSA reps don't seem to know these rules. Makes me wonder if there's some kind of training issue going on. Either way, thanks everyone for sharing your experiences - this thread is going to save me a lot of headaches when I apply!

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Welcome to the community! From what I've learned lurking here for a while, it sounds like the retroactive benefits should be handled automatically based on your birth date and application date - most people didn't need to provide special documentation. The SSA system should calculate it when they process your claim. However, given how many folks have encountered confused reps, I'd definitely recommend having a copy of your birth certificate handy and maybe even printing out the official SSA rules about retroactive benefits (you can find them on ssa.gov) to reference if needed. It's sad that we have to be so prepared for our own representatives not knowing the rules, but better safe than sorry when thousands of dollars are at stake! Good luck with your application next month!

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Do Social Security Disability payments skip a month when converting to retirement at FRA?

My cousin has been on SSDI for about 6 years now (she's 66). She just reached her full retirement age last month and was told her disability benefits would automatically convert to retirement benefits. But she didn't receive her payment this month when she expected it! When she called SSA, someone told her it's normal to 'skip a month' during this transition period. That doesn't sound right to me - why would they stop paying for a month when it's just an internal change from disability to retirement? Has anyone else gone through this transition? Do they really skip a month of benefits when you hit FRA? She's really struggling and can't afford to miss a payment.

One more thing to consider - sometimes when there's a representative payee involved, or if there were any changes to direct deposit information around the time of conversion, it can cause delays. Did your cousin make any banking changes recently or does she have someone managing her benefits?

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This happened to my neighbor! They changed banks right before their transition and it caused a 6-week delay in payments. Such a mess to sort out.

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UPDATE: My cousin finally got through to someone helpful at SSA! Turns out her payment date IS changing from the 3rd of the month to the 4th Wednesday (since her birthday is on the 28th). But the representative also found that there was a processing flag on her account that shouldn't have been there, which was holding up the payment. They're removing the flag and she should receive both her regular payment and any backpay within 3 business days. Thank you all so much for your help and suggestions!

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That's such great news! I'm so relieved it worked out for your cousin. It's exactly what many of us suspected - a combination of the payment date change AND a processing error. At least now she knows her new payment schedule and won't panic next month when it comes on the 4th Wednesday instead of the 3rd. Thanks for updating us - it really helps when people follow up to let us know how these situations get resolved!

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Social Security spousal benefit timing question - Can wife delay top-up until FRA?

My wife and I are trying to figure out the best claiming strategy for our Social Security benefits. I'm 67 now and planning to wait until 70 to maximize my retirement benefit (about $3,820/month according to my estimates). My wife is younger than me and will be 62 when I turn 70. She wants to claim her own retirement benefit at 62 (about $1,320/month with the reduction). By the time I claim at 70, she'll be just 5 months away from her FRA. Here's what I'm confused about: Will SSA automatically start giving her the spousal top-up benefit when I file at 70, which would be permanently reduced because she's 5 months before FRA? Or can she choose to wait those 5 months until she reaches her FRA to get the full 50% spousal benefit without reduction? I've read conflicting information online and the SSA rep I spoke with seemed uncertain. Anyone with experience on this specific situation?

Just wanted to add another perspective here - make sure your wife understands that once she starts receiving her own retirement benefit at 62, she'll be locked into that reduced amount forever (about 75% of her full benefit). The spousal top-up decision is separate, but her own benefit reduction is permanent. Also, I'd suggest calling SSA multiple times if you get conflicting information. I've found that different representatives sometimes give different answers, so it's worth getting a second or third opinion, especially for something this important. Document who you spoke with and when - ask for their employee ID if possible. One more thing - if your wife has any earnings between 62 and her FRA while collecting benefits, be aware of the earnings test limits. For 2024, she can earn up to $22,320 without affecting her benefits, but this changes annually.

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As someone who just went through this process with my parents last year, I can confirm what others have said about needing to be very explicit with SSA about your timing preferences. One thing I'd add that hasn't been mentioned yet - when your wife does eventually apply for the spousal benefit (whether at 5 months before FRA or at FRA), make sure she asks about retroactive benefits. If there's any delay in processing her application, she might be entitled to back payments to her eligibility date. Also, consider setting up a my Social Security account for both of you if you haven't already. It makes tracking everything much easier and you can send secure messages to SSA through the platform instead of waiting on hold. The message center has been a lifesaver for documenting our requests and keeping records of their responses.

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Thanks for mentioning the retroactive benefits aspect - that's something I hadn't considered! The my Social Security account setup is definitely on our to-do list. I've been hesitant to create online accounts for government services, but after reading about all the phone hold times and communication issues people have had, the message center feature sounds like it would be really valuable for keeping everything documented. Do you know if there's a limit on how far back they'll pay retroactive benefits for spousal claims? I want to make sure we don't miss any deadlines once we start this process.

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Great question about retroactive benefits! For spousal benefits, SSA can typically pay up to 6 months of retroactive benefits, but there are some conditions. The retroactive period can't go back to before you were eligible for the benefit, and it can't go back to before your spouse filed for their own benefits (since that's when spousal eligibility begins). In your specific case, once your husband files at 70, your wife would become eligible for spousal benefits at that point. If she waits the 5 months until her FRA to apply, she could potentially get retroactive payments back to when she first became eligible (when your husband filed), but she'd need to specifically request this and it would be at the reduced rate for those 5 months. The my Social Security account is definitely worth setting up - I was hesitant about government online services too, but it's been incredibly useful. Just make sure to use the official ssa.gov website and not any third-party sites that might look similar.

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Can I collect 50% of husband's Social Security at my FRA if he claims at age 70?

Hello everyone! So confused about spousal benefits timing. My situation: I'm turning 64 next month, and my husband is 67 (turning 68 in December). He's planning to delay his Social Security retirement until he hits 70 to maximize his monthly benefit. From what I understand, I might be eligible for spousal benefits based on his record, but the timing has me completely puzzled.If he waits until 70 to file for his benefits (which would be around $3,900/month based on the SSA calculator), would I be able to claim 50% of that amount when I reach my Full Retirement Age (66 and 8 months), or do I have to wait until I'm 70 too? I read somewhere that I can't claim spousal benefits until he actually files for his own benefits, but then I heard something different from my neighbor. Also, if I have to wait until he files at 70, would my spousal benefit still be 50% of his age-70 amount, or would it be reduced because I'd be older than my FRA when I start collecting? The SSA website is so confusing on this point!Thanks in advance for clearing this up!

I'm new here but going through a very similar situation! My husband is 69 and still working, planning to file at 70, and I'm 63 trying to figure out the best timing for my benefits. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful - especially learning that spousal benefits are based on his FRA amount, not his age-70 amount. That was news to me! One thing I'm still wondering about though - if I start my own benefits early (say at 64), would that reduce the spousal benefit calculation later? Or would I still get bumped up to the full 50% of his PIA when he files at 70, even if my own benefit was reduced for filing early? Also, has anyone here actually used that Claimyr service mentioned above? I'm getting desperate trying to reach SSA directly and might be willing to pay for help at this point!

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Welcome to the community! I'm also new here and found this thread super helpful. Regarding your question about filing early - if you take your own benefits at 64 (which would be reduced), you would still get bumped up to the spousal benefit amount when your husband files at 70, BUT your total would be based on YOUR reduced benefit plus the difference to reach 50% of his PIA. So filing early does impact the total you'd receive even with spousal benefits. I haven't used Claimyr myself, but after reading the comments here I'm seriously considering it too! The SSA phone situation is just impossible right now. Has anyone else here actually tried their service and can share more details about the cost and experience?

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Hi everyone! I'm also navigating this confusing maze of Social Security timing. Reading through this thread has been incredibly enlightening - thank you all for sharing your experiences! I wanted to add something that might help others in similar situations: I recently discovered that you can create a my Social Security account on the SSA website (ssa.gov) and use their retirement estimator tools to run different scenarios. While it's not as detailed as speaking with an actual agent, it can give you ballpark figures for your own benefits at different filing ages. Also, for those struggling to get through to SSA by phone, I found that calling right when they open (8 AM local time) on Tuesdays or Wednesdays gave me the best chance of getting through. Still took about an hour on hold, but I eventually got connected to a helpful representative. One more tip: if you're working with a financial advisor, many of them have specialized Social Security software that can model different claiming strategies. Mine was able to show me side-by-side comparisons of lifetime benefits under various scenarios, which really helped clarify the decision. @Carmen Reyes - based on what everyone has shared here, it sounds like your plan to file for your own benefits at FRA and then add the spousal portion when your husband files at 70 is a solid strategy! Good luck with everything!

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