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To address your original question about the COLA: The 2025 COLA would be announced in October 2024 and take effect with December 2024 benefits (paid in January 2025). Since your benefits begin with January 2025 (paid in February), your initial benefit amount will already include the 2025 COLA adjustment. For future reference, COLAs work like this: - Announced in October of each year (based on the CPI-W from Q3) - Applied to December benefits (which are paid in January) - All beneficiaries receiving payments for January or later in that year get the increased amount Since you're starting in January 2025 (with payment in February), you'll receive the full 2025 COLA from the beginning.

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Wait so does this mean people who start benefits after January don't get the full yearly COLA? Like if someone starts in July do they only get half of the yearly increase??

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No, that's not how it works. The COLA is applied to all benefits for the entire year. If you start benefits in July 2025, your initial benefit calculation will already include the 2025 COLA that was applied in January. You get the full annual COLA regardless of when you start benefits during the year - the increase is built into the benefit formula for the entire year.

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Thank you all so much for the helpful responses! To summarize what I've learned: 1. My January 2025 benefit (paid in February) will automatically include the 2025 COLA 2. The delay to February is just the normal payment cycle (January entitlement paid in February) 3. I should double-check my MySocialSecurity account when the award letter arrives to confirm everything This community has been incredibly helpful - I was really worried about losing out on the COLA increase for my budget planning. I appreciate everyone taking the time to explain how this works!

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One additional point: if you do need confirmation of your application status for financial planning purposes, you can request a "Benefit Verification Letter" once your application is processed. This official document confirms your benefit amount and start date, and many financial institutions accept it as proof of income for loans, housing applications, etc. You may be able to get this even before your first payment is issued. If your application isn't showing progress within 30 days of your intended start date (so by early February), that would be a good time to make a more concerted effort to speak with an SSA representative.

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Thank you for that suggestion! I didn't know about the Benefit Verification Letter option. That would definitely help with some of the financial planning I need to do. I'll watch for movement by early February and try to reach out then if needed.

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PrinceJoe

btw i think FRA is 67 not 65 now so r u taking early benefits at 65? that might be why its taking longer cuz they have to calculate the reduction

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Yes, I'm taking them early. I didn't realize that might make the process take longer. That's good to know!

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To clarify: taking benefits early (before Full Retirement Age) shouldn't significantly impact processing time. The reduction calculations are automated in SSA's systems. However, applications with complications like foreign employment, government pensions (WEP/GPO issues), or earnings limit concerns may take longer to process. Standard early retirement applications should follow similar timeframes to FRA applications.

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To clarify for everyone: According to SSA's official payment schedule, the 4th Wednesday group will receive their December 2025 payment on Wednesday, December 24th. If you're concerned about banking delays (which are common during the holiday season), I recommend: 1) Check with your specific bank about their holiday processing times, 2) Set up account alerts to know exactly when the deposit posts, and 3) Try to keep a small financial buffer if possible to account for potential delays.

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Thank you so much for this clear information! I'll call my bank next week to ask about their holiday processing schedule. This helps a lot with my holiday budgeting plans.

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One other timing factor to consider is that the COLA (cost of living adjustment) for next year will be announced in October and takes effect with January payments. If you start benefits later in the year, you'll still get the full COLA percentage increase in January 2026. So if the COLA is, let's say, 2.5% for 2026, and you started benefits in November 2025, you'd still get that full percentage increase in January 2026 even though you've only been receiving benefits for 2 months. It's not a huge factor, but something to consider as part of your overall timing strategy.

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That's really interesting! So there could be a small advantage to starting in November/December and then getting the full COLA just a month or two later. I'll add that to my considerations. Thanks!

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my sister started her benifits in december and regretted it bcuz of tax stuff the next year. something about not having withholding set up properly. make sure u fill out that voluntary withholding form thing!!!

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Great point about withholding! OP, you should consider completing Form W-4V when you apply. This allows you to request voluntary tax withholding from your Social Security benefits at rates of 7%, 10%, 12%, or 22%. Many new beneficiaries don't realize that SS doesn't automatically withhold taxes, which can lead to an unexpected tax bill when filing.

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Legitimate Medicare Savings Program applications will typically ask for: - Name and Medicare number - Income information (to determine eligibility) - Resource/asset information - Household composition Red flags would be requests for: - Full SSN (they might ask for the last 4 digits) - Bank account numbers - Credit card information - Password information - Money/payments of any kind Real MSP applications are for getting HELP with costs, not charging you anything. They're administered by state Medicaid offices in partnership with SSA, but the materials can sometimes look different from standard SSA letters.

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This is very helpful information, thank you! The form does ask for his full SSN and bank account information, so based on what you're saying, that's definitely concerning.

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The Boss

Based on your additional details in the comments, especially that it asks for full SSN and banking information and directs to a non-.gov website, this sounds like a scam. Legitimate MSP communications wouldn't request this information by mail. I recommend: 1. Don't respond or provide any information 2. Report it to the SSA's Fraud Hotline at 1-800-269-0271 3. You can also report it to the FTC at ReportFraud.ftc.gov It's very common for scammers to target seniors with Medicare-related scams, and they're getting increasingly sophisticated.

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Thank you - I'll definitely report it to both those places. I appreciate everyone's help in figuring this out! It's scary how convincing these scams are getting.

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my SSDI check is less than my friend gets and we worked same job for 25 yrs how do they decide how much u get?? not fair system

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This is getting off-topic from the original question, but SSDI benefit amounts are calculated based on your average lifetime earnings that you paid Social Security taxes on, not just your most recent job. Even if you had the same job as your friend, if they had higher earnings in earlier years or fewer zero-earning years, their benefit could be higher.

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To summarize what everyone's saying (since there's been some confusion in this thread): 1. Your SSDI benefit will convert to retirement benefits when you reach your Full Retirement Age (FRA) - which is NOT 65, but later depending on your birth year 2. The dollar amount remains EXACTLY the same when this conversion happens 3. The conversion is automatic - no paperwork needed 4. You'll continue to receive COLA increases 5. If you're already on Medicare through SSDI, nothing changes with your Medicare Hope this helps provide clarity!

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Thank you all for the helpful information. It sounds like I don't need to worry about my benefit amount decreasing, which is a huge relief. I'll probably still call SSA to confirm everything, especially since I'll need to wait longer than I thought for the actual conversion to happen. Really appreciate everyone taking time to respond!

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Regarding your online application question - yes, the online system allows you to upload digital copies of required documents (birth certificate, etc.). However, some people find it easier to take originals to a local SSA office where they can make certified copies for you. The advantages of applying earlier in your 4-month window: 1) If there are any issues with your application, you have more time to resolve them, and 2) It gives SSA more processing time so your first payment is more likely to arrive on schedule. Just remember that regardless of when you apply within that window, your benefits will still start in August as you requested.

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Thanks for that information! I think I'll aim for early April to apply then. One more question if you don't mind - will I automatically be enrolled in Medicare when I start SS at 62, or does that still wait until I'm 65?

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Medicare enrollment is separate from Social Security and doesn't begin until age 65, regardless of when you start your Social Security benefits. When you turn 65, you'll have a 7-month Initial Enrollment Period (starting 3 months before your birth month) to sign up for Medicare Parts A and B. If you're still covered by employer health insurance when you turn 65 (either your own or a spouse's), you might be able to delay Medicare enrollment without penalties.

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Got it - so I'll need to handle Medicare separately when I turn 65. Thanks for clearing that up!

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I work with retirees on their financial planning, and based on what you've shared, here's what you should know: 1. Your SSDI benefit ($1,650) is already higher than what you'd get as a spouse (50% of his $3,200 = $1,600), so you won't get additional spousal benefits. 2. If your husband passes away, you would be eligible for his full benefit amount as a survivor. This is why many couples in your situation consider having the higher earner delay benefits - each year he delays past FRA increases his benefit by 8%, which directly increases your potential survivor benefit. 3. Given the 5-year age difference and his health concerns, you might want to consider a strategy where he claims at his FRA or slightly later to balance current income needs with protecting your future survivor benefits. 4. When you reach your FRA, your SSDI will convert to retirement benefits, but the amount stays the same. One thing to note: if he decides to work while collecting benefits before his FRA, he'll be subject to the earnings test which could reduce his benefits temporarily if he earns above certain thresholds.

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Thank you for this clear explanation. We're definitely trying to balance his current health situation with planning for my long-term future. Given his family history, there's a good chance I could outlive him by 15-20 years, so maximizing the survivor benefit does make sense. Do you know if there are any special forms or procedures we need to follow when he does decide to file? Or when I eventually need to switch to survivor benefits if he passes before me?

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Has anyone else noticed how the rules for Social Security are DELIBERATELY complicated?? I swear they make it confusing on purpose so people don't claim everything they're entitled to. My neighbor worked for SSA for 30 years and even she says most of their own employees don't understand all the rules. The whole system needs to be simplified!

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omg YES!!! my husband and i got totally different answers from 3 different SS reps when we were trying to figure out our benefits last year. one told us one thing, called back and got completely different info!! so frustrating!!

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did you work for goverment or railroad at any point? my cousin had something like this and it was because of that windfall thing where they reduce your SS if you get a pension

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No, I've always worked in the private sector - retail management and then 25 years at a manufacturing company. No government or railroad jobs, so it shouldn't be WEP or GPO related. Thanks for the suggestion though!

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Mei Chen

Just following up - were you able to get this resolved? If you're still struggling to reach someone, you might want to try calling right when they open at 8:00 AM your local time. The wait times are usually much shorter early in the morning.

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Thanks for checking back! I took everyone's advice and waited a week - and you were right! My account updated yesterday with the correct benefit amount. No more zeros and no more 1978 date. What a relief! I appreciate everyone's help and reassurance during my moment of panic.

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wait do we need to print it? cant we just save the pdf? my printer is always out of ink lol

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Saving the PDF is perfectly fine too! The key is having documentation of what your account showed before you applied. A digital copy with the date clearly shown works well. Just make sure you store it somewhere you can easily access later if needed.

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Thanks everyone for the helpful responses! I printed out my full statement (all 5 pages) and found one year where my earnings seemed lower than I remembered. Going to dig up my W-2 from that year to compare. So glad I asked this question before applying!

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That's exactly why printing/saving it is so important! If you find a discrepancy, contact SSA right away with your documentation. And when you do apply, bring both your statement and any correction documentation to your appointment or have it ready if applying online. Good luck!

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