Collecting reduced spousal SS at 64 while caregiving, then switching to survivors and my own benefits later?
I'm really at a crossroads and need advice from anyone who's navigated this before. I'm 66 (born in 1959) and had to quit my job last year to become a full-time caregiver for my husband who has stage 4 pancreatic cancer. His prognosis isn't good, and I'm trying to plan ahead while taking care of him. I'm wondering if I can start collecting spousal benefits now (even though I know they'll be reduced because I'm under my FRA), and then later switch to survivor benefits when my husband passes. And then, could I switch AGAIN to my own retirement benefits when I reach 70 to get the delayed retirement credits? I've been trying to figure this out from the SSA website but keep going in circles. My own benefit at FRA would be about $2,700 and my husband's is currently $3,150. I'm scared about making the wrong choice and permanently reducing my benefits, but we could really use the additional income now with all the medical expenses. Any insights would be SO appreciated. This whole situation is overwhelming.
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Finnegan Gunn
Yes, you can start spousal benefits now at a reduced rate (about 30% reduction if you start at 66 when your FRA is probably around 67), then switch to survivors when your husband passes. Survivor benefits would also be reduced if you claim them before your FRA. However, there's a key fact you need to know: once your husband passes, you can't switch back and forth between your own retirement and survivor benefits as you want. The old "claim now, claim more later" strategy was eliminated for most people by the 2015 budget act. You'll need to choose either: 1) Take reduced survivors now, then switch to your own at 70 2) Take your own reduced retirement now, then survivors later The best strategy often depends on which benefit will ultimately be larger at age 70. Given your numbers, option 1 might be better, but you should really consult with an SSA representative directly to confirm.
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Alina Rosenthal
•Thank you for this information. I'm still confused though - can I take spousal now while my husband is living, THEN switch to survivors when he passes, and THEN switch to my own at 70? Or are you saying once I take ANY benefit, I'm locked into one path? I've heard conflicting things about this.
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Miguel Harvey
my condolences on ur husbands condition. i was in similar situatuin in 2019. took spousal at 63 then when my wife passed switched to survivor. got a bit more $ but both were reduced cuz i took early. never got to switch to my own cuz my own benefit was less than survivors even with the reduction. pretty sure u CAN go from spousal to survivor to ur own if ur own is bigger at 70. thats what the lady at SS told me when i called.
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Alina Rosenthal
•Thank you for sharing your experience, and I'm sorry about your wife. That's helpful to know you were able to go from spousal to survivor benefits. Did they make the transition automatically when your wife passed, or did you have to apply for survivor benefits?
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Ashley Simian
I'm so sorry about your husband. The rules are complicated but I think I can clarify a bit based on experience. You CAN take reduced spousal benefits now, then switch to reduced survivor benefits when your husband passes away, then switch to your own retirement benefit at 70 IF your own benefit at that point would be higher than the survivor benefit. The "claim now, claim more later" restriction that was mentioned applies to switching between retirement and spousal benefits, NOT to survivor benefits. Survivor benefits have different rules. The key is comparing these three amounts: 1. Your reduced spousal benefit now (probably around 35% of his FRA benefit) 2. Your reduced survivor benefit when he passes (likely 82-85% of his benefit if you're taking it before your FRA) 3. Your own retirement benefit at 70 (124-132% of your FRA amount
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Oliver Cheng
•You're absolutely right about the distinction with survivor benefits. The Bipartisan Budget Act of 2015 eliminated most forms of "claim now, claim more later" strategies involving spousal benefits, but survivors benefits remain an exception to this rule. You CAN take reduced survivor benefits and then switch to your own retirement benefit later if it would be higher. The math definitely favors taking survivor benefits when the time comes and then switching to your own at 70 if your own benefit with delayed retirement credits will exceed the survivor benefit. With the figures provided ($2,700 at FRA growing to approximately $3,350 at age 70 vs. husband's current benefit of $3,150), this strategy likely makes the most sense.
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Taylor To
DONT DO IT!!! If you start ANY benefit early you are PERMANENTLY reduced for EVERYTHING! The SSA doesn't tell you this because they WANT you to take benefits early so they save money! My brother-in-law's wife did this and she's stuck with a tiny check forever! Once you go on spousal you CAN'T ever get your full amount on anything else! They don't care about us!!!!!
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Finnegan Gunn
•This isn't accurate. Taking reduced spousal benefits doesn't permanently reduce your own retirement benefit if you switch later. Each benefit type has its own reduction factors. The reduction applies to the specific benefit you're claiming early, not to all future benefits. Specifically, if you take reduced spousal now, then survivor later, then switch to your own at 70, your own retirement benefit would still get the full delayed retirement credits to age 70. The only benefits that would be reduced are the spousal and survivor benefits you took before FRA.
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Ella Cofer
Hi there, I had to deal with a similar situation recently. The rules are confusing but I managed to figure it out after countless calls to Social Security. One thing nobody mentioned yet - when your husband passes, you should report his death to Social Security promptly. They don't automatically know and switch your benefits. You'll need his death certificate to apply for survivor benefits. I tried calling SSA for weeks but couldn't get through - constantly disconnected or on hold for hours. I finally used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to an agent in about 20 minutes. They have a video showing how it works at https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU - totally worth it for important benefit decisions like this. The agent confirmed I could go from spousal to survivor to my own retirement at 70. Hope this helps during this difficult time.
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Alina Rosenthal
•Thank you for this practical advice about reporting my husband's death and the survivor benefit application. I was wondering how that transition would work. And thanks for the tip about Claimyr - I've also had trouble getting through to SSA by phone so that could be really helpful when I need to talk to someone directly.
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Kevin Bell
when my husband died last year i got a one time death payment of only $255 dollars?????? like what is that supposed to cover? not even one month's rent. the whole system needs to be fixed its ridiculous.
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Miguel Harvey
•yep that $255 death benefit hasnt changed in like 50 years... crazy that they think thats enough for anything these days.
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Oliver Cheng
Let me clarify the sequence for you since there's some confusion in this thread: 1. YES, you can claim reduced spousal benefits now at age 66 (roughly 35% reduction from what you'd get at your FRA) 2. When your husband passes, you CAN switch to survivor benefits. These will also be reduced because you're claiming before FRA (reduction of about 15-18% depending on exact age) 3. At age 70, you CAN switch to your own retirement benefit if it would be higher than your survivor benefit The key calculation: Your FRA benefit of $2,700 with delayed retirement credits to age 70 would be approximately $3,350-$3,400. Compare this to the reduced survivor benefit (about 82-85% of your husband's $3,150, so around $2,600). In this case, switching to your own at 70 makes mathematical sense. This strategy is completely permitted under current Social Security rules. The "deemed filing" restrictions from the 2015 law specifically exempted survivor benefits.
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Alina Rosenthal
•Thank you for laying this out so clearly. This is exactly what I needed to know. The numbers you provided help me visualize the strategy better. I think this approach makes the most sense for my situation - take reduced spousal now, survivor when the time comes, and then my own maximized benefit at 70. I appreciate everyone's help so much during this difficult time.
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