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One more important thing: when your father-in-law goes to his appointment, he should bring his and your mother-in-law's: - Birth certificates - Marriage certificate - Her death certificate - Most recent tax return - His Social Security card Also, he should be prepared to provide information about any previous marriages either of them had, including dates and documentation if available. And absolutely have him use the exact phrase "I want to file a restricted application for survivor benefits only while delaying my retirement benefit until age 70." Being very specific with this language helps ensure he gets the correct outcome.
my uncle did this i think. he got my aunts benifits after she died but then swtiched to his own later when he turned 70. he said it was confusing but worked out good in the end. hope your father in law gets what he deserves!!
That's encouraging to hear! It's exactly what we're trying to do. It's such a common situation that I'm surprised the SSA representatives aren't better trained on it. But from everything I've read here and elsewhere, it sounds like we just need to be persistent and clear about what we're asking for.
Thanks everyone for the helpful responses! I printed out my full statement (all 5 pages) and found one year where my earnings seemed lower than I remembered. Going to dig up my W-2 from that year to compare. So glad I asked this question before applying!
when my husband died last year i got a one time death payment of only $255 dollars?????? like what is that supposed to cover? not even one month's rent. the whole system needs to be fixed its ridiculous.
Let me clarify the sequence for you since there's some confusion in this thread: 1. YES, you can claim reduced spousal benefits now at age 66 (roughly 35% reduction from what you'd get at your FRA) 2. When your husband passes, you CAN switch to survivor benefits. These will also be reduced because you're claiming before FRA (reduction of about 15-18% depending on exact age) 3. At age 70, you CAN switch to your own retirement benefit if it would be higher than your survivor benefit The key calculation: Your FRA benefit of $2,700 with delayed retirement credits to age 70 would be approximately $3,350-$3,400. Compare this to the reduced survivor benefit (about 82-85% of your husband's $3,150, so around $2,600). In this case, switching to your own at 70 makes mathematical sense. This strategy is completely permitted under current Social Security rules. The "deemed filing" restrictions from the 2015 law specifically exempted survivor benefits.
Thank you for laying this out so clearly. This is exactly what I needed to know. The numbers you provided help me visualize the strategy better. I think this approach makes the most sense for my situation - take reduced spousal now, survivor when the time comes, and then my own maximized benefit at 70. I appreciate everyone's help so much during this difficult time.
When my husband got approved for SSDI, we were told the kids qualified but we had to apply separately. Noone told me I could get benefits too! Now its been 8 months and I'm worried I missed out on thousands of dollars. Can I still apply and get backpay?
Unfortunately, auxiliary benefits (for spouses and children) are only paid from the date of application, not from the date of entitlement to the disability benefit. You can still apply now, but you won't receive payments for those 8 months that have passed. This is why it's so important for families to apply for all potential benefits immediately when a wage earner becomes disabled.
I just wanted to update everyone - I was able to use Claimyr to get through to SSA yesterday and the agent was incredibly helpful! She confirmed both my children qualify for about $900 each per month, and I qualify for about $900 as their caregiver. However, due to the family maximum, we'll get a total of about $3,550 for all three of us combined (instead of $2,700). She also helped me schedule an appointment at our local office next week to complete the application since some documents need to be verified in person. Thank you all for your advice and support - this additional income will make a huge difference for us while I figure out our new normal.
That's great news! Make sure to bring original documents to your appointment: birth certificates for you and the children, your marriage certificate, and photo ID. Also bring your bank account information for direct deposit. The representative should set up all three auxiliary benefits during that appointment. Best of luck with everything!
Ryder Ross
One more thing to consider: if you do apply for retirement while waiting for SSDI, make sure to tell SSA that you want the disability onset date preserved. This technical detail ensures you get the maximum possible retroactive benefits if your disability claim is approved. There's a specific way they need to note this in your file. Also, since you mentioned being an amputee, your condition might qualify under the Compassionate Allowance program, which could speed up your disability decision significantly. Did your disability examiner mention this possibility to you?
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Holly Lascelles
•Thank you for that important detail about preserving the onset date! No, nobody mentioned anything about a Compassionate Allowance program to me. I'll definitely ask about this when I contact SSA. Is this something I need to specifically request, or should they automatically consider it based on my medical condition?
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Ryder Ross
They should evaluate your case for Compassionate Allowance automatically based on your medical records, but it never hurts to specifically mention it. Certain amputations do qualify, though it depends on the specifics of your condition. When you speak with SSA, just ask if your case is being considered under the Compassionate Allowance program. If it is, that could reduce your wait time from months to weeks. Regarding preserving your onset date while receiving retirement - this is something you should explicitly request when applying for retirement benefits. Just tell them: "I want to file for retirement while my disability application is pending, but I want to preserve my disability onset date." They'll know what to do, but having it noted properly in your file can make a big difference in potential back payments.
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Holly Lascelles
•This is extremely helpful information - thank you! I'll make sure to use those exact words about preserving the onset date. I really appreciate everyone's advice here. I'm going to contact SSA tomorrow and apply for my retirement benefits while continuing with the disability process. At least that will give me some income while I wait for the final SSDI decision.
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