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One more important thing: when your father-in-law goes to his appointment, he should bring his and your mother-in-law's: - Birth certificates - Marriage certificate - Her death certificate - Most recent tax return - His Social Security card Also, he should be prepared to provide information about any previous marriages either of them had, including dates and documentation if available. And absolutely have him use the exact phrase "I want to file a restricted application for survivor benefits only while delaying my retirement benefit until age 70." Being very specific with this language helps ensure he gets the correct outcome.
my uncle did this i think. he got my aunts benifits after she died but then swtiched to his own later when he turned 70. he said it was confusing but worked out good in the end. hope your father in law gets what he deserves!!
That's encouraging to hear! It's exactly what we're trying to do. It's such a common situation that I'm surprised the SSA representatives aren't better trained on it. But from everything I've read here and elsewhere, it sounds like we just need to be persistent and clear about what we're asking for.
When my husband got approved for SSDI, we were told the kids qualified but we had to apply separately. Noone told me I could get benefits too! Now its been 8 months and I'm worried I missed out on thousands of dollars. Can I still apply and get backpay?
Unfortunately, auxiliary benefits (for spouses and children) are only paid from the date of application, not from the date of entitlement to the disability benefit. You can still apply now, but you won't receive payments for those 8 months that have passed. This is why it's so important for families to apply for all potential benefits immediately when a wage earner becomes disabled.
I just wanted to update everyone - I was able to use Claimyr to get through to SSA yesterday and the agent was incredibly helpful! She confirmed both my children qualify for about $900 each per month, and I qualify for about $900 as their caregiver. However, due to the family maximum, we'll get a total of about $3,550 for all three of us combined (instead of $2,700). She also helped me schedule an appointment at our local office next week to complete the application since some documents need to be verified in person. Thank you all for your advice and support - this additional income will make a huge difference for us while I figure out our new normal.
That's great news! Make sure to bring original documents to your appointment: birth certificates for you and the children, your marriage certificate, and photo ID. Also bring your bank account information for direct deposit. The representative should set up all three auxiliary benefits during that appointment. Best of luck with everything!
Good thinking on setting up the online account. One thing I'd suggest: sometimes the local SSA offices process applications faster depending on their workload. You might try calling your local office directly instead of the main number. Their direct numbers aren't well-publicized but you can usually find them with some searching online. Sometimes you can get through to a real person much faster this way.If you still don't hear anything after 5-6 weeks, that's when I'd recommend using the Claimyr service others mentioned. I've had good experiences with it when I needed to resolve an issue quickly.
Thank you all for the incredibly helpful information! I'm going to: 1) Make sure I report my October wages by November 10th, 2) Prepare for my November SSI payment to be slightly reduced based on my few September workdays, 3) Expect a larger reduction in December, 4) Talk to my EN about work incentives like IRWE, and 5) Keep ALL my paystubs and documentation. I feel so much better understanding the timeline now! This community is amazing.
Kevin Bell
when my husband died last year i got a one time death payment of only $255 dollars?????? like what is that supposed to cover? not even one month's rent. the whole system needs to be fixed its ridiculous.
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Miguel Harvey
•yep that $255 death benefit hasnt changed in like 50 years... crazy that they think thats enough for anything these days.
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Oliver Cheng
Let me clarify the sequence for you since there's some confusion in this thread: 1. YES, you can claim reduced spousal benefits now at age 66 (roughly 35% reduction from what you'd get at your FRA) 2. When your husband passes, you CAN switch to survivor benefits. These will also be reduced because you're claiming before FRA (reduction of about 15-18% depending on exact age) 3. At age 70, you CAN switch to your own retirement benefit if it would be higher than your survivor benefit The key calculation: Your FRA benefit of $2,700 with delayed retirement credits to age 70 would be approximately $3,350-$3,400. Compare this to the reduced survivor benefit (about 82-85% of your husband's $3,150, so around $2,600). In this case, switching to your own at 70 makes mathematical sense. This strategy is completely permitted under current Social Security rules. The "deemed filing" restrictions from the 2015 law specifically exempted survivor benefits.
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Alina Rosenthal
•Thank you for laying this out so clearly. This is exactly what I needed to know. The numbers you provided help me visualize the strategy better. I think this approach makes the most sense for my situation - take reduced spousal now, survivor when the time comes, and then my own maximized benefit at 70. I appreciate everyone's help so much during this difficult time.
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