Will I get 30% of husband's delayed Social Security if he files at 70 instead of his FRA?
My SS planning is driving me crazy! I'm turning 62 next summer (July 2025) and trying to figure out my best option. I've been a stay-at-home parent for most of the last 15 years, so my own benefit at 62 will be pathetic - around $1,250/month based on my limited work history. My husband (59, turning 60 in December) has always been the primary earner and should qualify for maximum or near-maximum benefits at his full retirement age (67). From what I understand, if I claim at 62, I'd get my own benefit PLUS enough of his to equal 30% of his FRA amount (so about $1,500 more if he gets the max). Here's what's confusing me: If he decides to delay until 70 to maximize his benefits, would my spousal portion increase to 30% of his age-70 amount? Or would I still only get 30% of what his FRA amount would have been regardless of when he actually files? I'm trying to determine if we're better off with me filing early and him delaying, or if there's a better strategy. Any insight from folks who've navigated this spousal benefit maze would be so appreciated!
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Max Reyes
Your spousal benefit is based on your husband's Primary Insurance Amount (PIA), which is the benefit amount he would receive at his full retirement age. It doesn't matter if he delays until 70 - your spousal portion will still be calculated on his FRA amount, not his increased age 70 benefit. So if his PIA is $3,600, and you file at 62, you'd get approximately 32.5% of that ($1,170) as the spousal portion. The exact percentage depends on your own FRA. The increase he gets for delaying to 70 (an additional 24% beyond his FRA amount) doesn't factor into your spousal benefit calculation at all.
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Felicity Bud
•Thank you! That's what I was afraid of. So my filing early doesn't affect his options, and his delaying doesn't increase my spousal portion. Does this mean I should just file as soon as I'm eligible since there's no advantage to waiting?
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Mikayla Davison
my sister went thru this exact thing last year!! she took hers at 62 and got the smaller amount but her husband is waiting till 70. the SSA person told her it's based on his FRA benefit not the delayed one. kind of a bummer but at least your husband still gets his bigger check!
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Adrian Connor
•This is correct! I actually work with a financial advisor who specializes in SS benefits, and they confirmed this same information. Your spousal benefit is calculated based on your spouse's PIA (Primary Insurance Amount), which is their FRA benefit amount. Any delayed retirement credits your husband earns won't increase your spousal benefit.
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Aisha Jackson
You might want to run some more numbers before deciding. If you wait until your own FRA to file, you'd get 50% of his PIA instead of 32.5% at age 62. That could be a significant difference depending on your financial situation. Also, have you considered that once your husband files (whether at FRA or 70), if you're already receiving your own benefit, you'll automatically be eligible for the additional spousal benefit if it would give you more? The other thing to think about: if your husband passes away, as his widow you would receive his FULL benefit amount, including any delayed retirement credits. So his decision to wait until 70 could significantly increase your survivor benefits later.
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Felicity Bud
•That's a really important point about survivor benefits that I hadn't considered! So while the spousal benefit isn't affected by his delay, the potential survivor benefit would be significantly higher if he waits until 70. That's definitely something to factor into our planning. Thank you!
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Ryder Everingham
DONT COUNT ON ANYTHING THE SSA TELLS YOU!!! I was told THREE DIFFERENT THINGS by three different agents when I called about my spousal benefits. One said I could get 50% at 62 (WRONG), another said I had to wait until my husband filed before I could get spousal (ALSO WRONG in my case). The third one finally seemed to know what she was talking about. The whole system is DESIGNED to confuse you so you'll take less than you deserve!!!!
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Lilly Curtis
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Leo Simmons
im confused about something - does your husband HAVE to file for you to get spousal benefits? or can you get them when you turn 62 even if he hasnt filed yet?
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Max Reyes
•Generally, your spouse needs to have filed for their own benefits before you can receive spousal benefits. There used to be exceptions to this rule (like file-and-suspend), but most of those strategies were eliminated with the 2015 budget changes. So in the original poster's situation, her husband would need to file for his own benefits before she could receive the spousal portion. She could still claim her own reduced retirement benefit at 62, then when her husband files later, she'd get the difference added as the spousal portion.
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Adrian Connor
Something no one has mentioned yet: if you take your own benefit at 62, it will be permanently reduced to 70% of your FRA benefit. Then when your husband files and you become eligible for spousal benefits, your total benefit will be your reduced benefit PLUS enough of the spousal benefit to bring you up to the maximum you're entitled to (which, if you file at 62, would be about 32.5% of his PIA). In practical terms: if your own benefit at 62 is $1,250 and your husband's PIA is $3,600, then your maximum at 62 would be around $1,170 (32.5% of his PIA). Since your own benefit is already higher, you wouldn't receive any additional spousal amount until he files. This gets even more complicated when you factor in cost of living adjustments over time!
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Felicity Bud
•Wait, so if my own benefit at 62 ($1,250) is already higher than the spousal portion I'd get at 62 (32.5% of his PIA), would I get anything extra at all when he files? Or would I just keep my own $1,250?
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Max Reyes
To answer your follow-up question: If your own reduced benefit at 62 ($1,250) is already higher than what your spousal benefit would be at that age (32.5% of his PIA), then you wouldn't receive any additional amount when he files. You'd simply continue receiving your own benefit. However, this calculation can change over time with COLAs (Cost of Living Adjustments). Also, remember that survivors benefits work very differently from spousal benefits - if your husband predeceases you, you'd be eligible for 100% of whatever he was receiving, including delayed retirement credits if he waited until 70 to file.
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Felicity Bud
•This is so helpful, thank you! It sounds like in my specific situation, there wouldn't be an advantage to coordinating our filing strategies for spousal benefits, but the survivor benefit consideration is huge. We'll need to factor that into our planning, especially since my benefit will be relatively small compared to his.
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Mikayla Davison
whats the diff between SSI and SSDI again? does that matter for spousal benefits?? sorry if thats a stupid question but all these acronyms confuse me lol
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Aisha Jackson
•SSI and SSDI don't apply to the original question about retirement and spousal benefits. SSI (Supplemental Security Income) is a needs-based program for people with limited income/resources who are disabled, blind, or 65+. SSDI (Social Security Disability Insurance) is for disabled workers who have earned enough work credits. What the original poster is asking about is regular Social Security retirement benefits and the associated spousal benefits, which are based on earnings records and completely different from SSI/SSDI.
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Leo Simmons
my aunt used to work for ssa and she said always always ALWAYS wait until FRA to get the full 50% for spouse benefit. taking early is a mistake she saw people make every day
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Ryder Everingham
•That's a HUGE oversimplification!!! Whether to take benefits early or wait depends on SO MANY factors - health, life expectancy, other income sources, tax situation. Plus the breakeven point is usually in your late 70s or early 80s. Some people are better off taking reduced benefits earlier and investing them. There's NO one-size-fits-all answer!!!
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