Social Security filing strategy with sick spouse - take reduced benefits now or wait for survivor benefits?
Trying to make a tough decision about my SS benefits while dealing with my husband's health crisis. I'll be turning 65 in June 2025 (not FRA), but considering filing for retirement benefits in January. I've been out of work since 2020 after a workplace injury that didn't qualify for SSDI despite multiple appeals. My husband (78) was diagnosed with stage 4 pancreatic cancer in April. His prognosis isn't good. He's already collecting his SS retirement (about $2,850/month). I've calculated my benefit at about $1,650/month if I file in January, but would be permanently reduced from my FRA amount of $2,100. I'm confused about my options: 1. Take my reduced retirement benefits now, then switch to survivor benefits if my husband passes? 2. Wait to file, then take survivor benefits when he passes and switch to my own at 70? I'm leaning toward option #1 because I really need the income, and honestly, I'm worried Congress might raise the retirement age before I hit 67. Plus I'll have Medicare starting in June which will be a HUGE relief after years of skipping doctors due to my $6,000 deductible. Anyone faced a similar situation or understand which option would give me more in the long run?
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Ethan Moore
I'm really sorry about your husband's diagnosis. For your Social Security options, here's what you should understand: If you take your own benefits early (reduced) and then your husband passes away, you can switch to survivor benefits IF his benefit amount is higher than what you're receiving. Since your husband is already collecting $2,850/month, and your reduced benefit would be $1,650, you would be able to step up to a survivor benefit. However, it's important to know that if you claim survivor benefits before your FRA, those will also be reduced permanently. If you wait until your FRA to claim survivor benefits, you'd get 100% of what your husband was receiving. Option 2 (waiting, then claiming survivor benefits when he passes, then switching to your own at 70) would likely maximize your lifetime benefits, especially if you have longevity in your family.
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Aisha Mahmood
•Thank you for the clear explanation. I didn't realize survivor benefits would be reduced if I take them before FRA too. Do you know if I'd get 100% of his $2,850 or some other amount? And if I go with option 2, can I really switch from survivor benefits to my own at 70? I thought once you choose one benefit you're stuck with it forever.
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Yuki Kobayashi
go with option 1!! take the money now, my sister was in same boat and waited for "maximum benefit" then died at 69 never enjoying ANY of it. governments already taken enough of our $$ dont give them more by waiting
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Carmen Vega
•While I understand the sentiment, this isn't really correct advice. Taking benefits early is permanently reduced for life. My parents both took SS early and my mom always regrets it because 15 years later they're still getting those reduced payments. It's really a personal decision based on health, financial needs, and life expectancy.
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QuantumQuester
I work with retirees in financial planning, and your situation is actually one where the coordination of benefits is crucial. Here's what the SSA allows in your situation: If you take your own reduced retirement benefit now, then when your husband passes, you CAN switch to the higher survivor benefit. You would receive the higher of either: your current benefit OR up to 100% of what your husband was receiving, potentially reduced if you haven't reached your FRA when you apply for survivor benefits. Option 2 is more complex but potentially more lucrative if you have average or better longevity. You could: - Wait without filing for your own benefits - When your husband passes, file for survivor benefits (ideally waiting until your FRA to get 100% of his benefit) - At age 70, switch to your own retirement benefit which would have grown to approximately 124% of your FRA amount through delayed retirement credits This strategy works because survivor benefits and your own retirement benefits are treated as separate buckets, allowing you to switch between them to maximize lifetime income.
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Aisha Mahmood
•Thank you so much for this detailed explanation. It helps a lot to understand that survivor and retirement benefits are separate "buckets." My biggest concern is that I need income soon - I've been living off savings that are nearly depleted. But I'm worried I'll regret taking reduced benefits for potentially 20+ years if I live into my 80s like my mother did.
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Andre Moreau
i totally get where ur coming from with the worry about congress changing retirement age!! been thinking the same thing myself. better to lock in what we can get now rather than wait for them to change the rules on us AGAIN
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QuantumQuester
•Just to clarify - while Congress does periodically make changes to Social Security, they have historically grandfathered people who are close to retirement age. The Social Security amendments in 1983 that gradually raised FRA from 65 to 67 were phased in over decades. It's extremely unlikely that someone already in their 60s would see their FRA suddenly increased.
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Carmen Vega
I was in a similar situation with my wife's cancer diagnosis in 2021. I chose to take my benefits at 64 because we needed the income for medical expenses. After she passed, I was able to switch to survivor benefits which were higher than my reduced retirement. One thing NO ONE told me - there's a time limit for applying for survivor benefits! You have to apply within 2 years of your spouse's death. Also, be prepared for the NIGHTMARE of trying to reach someone at SSA to process survivor benefits. I spent WEEKS trying to get through on the phone.
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Zoe Stavros
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Aisha Mahmood
Thank you all for the thoughtful responses. I think I'm leaning toward taking my own benefits in January given my current financial situation. The idea of waiting until 70 sounds great mathematically, but practically speaking, I don't know if I can stretch my savings that long. If I understand correctly, I can: 1. Take my reduced benefit now ($1,650) 2. If my husband passes, apply for survivor benefits 3. At that point, I'd get the higher of my reduced benefit OR his benefit (possibly reduced if I haven't reached FRA) I wish there was a calculator that could show exactly what the survivor benefit would be at different ages. The SSA website is confusing me.
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Ethan Moore
•There actually is a calculator for survivor benefits! On the SSA website, look for the "Survivors Benefits Planner." It's not perfect but gives estimates. Also, if you create a my Social Security account, you can see personalized estimates. Your understanding is correct. Just remember, if your husband passes before you reach your FRA and you immediately apply for survivor benefits, they will be reduced based on your age at that time. The reduction is about 0.396% per month before your FRA. If your financial situation allows you to wait until your FRA to claim survivor benefits, you'd get 100% of his benefit ($2,850).
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Jamal Harris
The SSA really makes this overly complicated! I spent HOURS researching when my spouse passed. What frustrates me is they don't proactively tell you your options - YOU have to know what to ask for! One important thing nobody mentioned: When your spouse passes, you get a one-time death benefit of $255. Yes, that's right - a whopping $255 for funeral expenses in 2025! It's insulting and hasn't been increased since the 1950s! Also, when you apply for survivor benefits, bring EVERYTHING with you - marriage certificate, death certificate (several certified copies), birth certificates, Social Security cards, tax returns. They'll find any reason to delay processing if you're missing anything.
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Aisha Mahmood
•Thank you for the heads up about documentation. I'll make sure to have everything organized when the time comes. And yes, that $255 death benefit is absurdly low considering funeral costs are easily $10,000+ these days.
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Andre Moreau
My neighbor said you can get 6 months of retroactive benefits when you file. So maybe wait till july then file and ask for back pay to january?? That way you get money for jan-july all at once!!
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QuantumQuester
•This is partially correct but needs clarification. SSA does allow up to 6 months of retroactive benefits, but only for people who have reached full retirement age (FRA). If you file before FRA, you cannot receive retroactive benefits beyond the month you applied. Since the original poster is filing before FRA, retroactive benefits wouldn't apply in this situation.
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Ethan Moore
Before making your final decision, I'd recommend calling SSA and requesting an appointment with a claims specialist who can run personalized calculations for your specific situation. They can show you exactly what your benefit would be under different scenarios. One more important factor to consider: taxation. If you're drawing both your retirement and eventually survivor benefits, and have other income sources, up to 85% of your Social Security benefits could be taxable. This sometimes affects the math on which strategy is optimal.
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Aisha Mahmood
•Good point about taxes. I hadn't considered that. I don't have much other income right now, but I do have some retirement accounts I'll need to tap eventually. I'll definitely try to schedule an appointment with SSA, though I've heard it can take weeks to get one.
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Zoe Stavros
When I needed specific benefit information about survivor benefits last year, I tried for 3 weeks to get through to SSA on the phone with no luck. I finally used Claimyr (claimyr.com) and got connected to an agent in minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU. The agent was able to calculate my potential survivor benefit in different scenarios, which really helped me make an informed decision.
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Aisha Mahmood
•Thank you for the recommendation. After spending an hour on hold yesterday and getting disconnected, I'm definitely going to check this out. At this point, I'd try anything to actually speak with someone who can answer my specific questions.
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