Can my disabled child receive both Social Security survivor benefits and SSI at the same time?
My youngest son (14) currently receives Social Security survivor benefits after his father passed away two years ago. He also has several significant disabilities, and his neurologist recently suggested I should apply for SSI disability for him as well. Here's where I'm confused - we still have income from my late husband's life insurance policy (about $2100/month), and I receive around $1750 in VA DIC payments as his widow. We own our home (worth about $285,000) and have two vehicles (2018 Honda and 2021 Toyota). I know the SSI program has strict asset and income limits, so I'm pretty sure we wouldn't qualify right now. But the life insurance money will run out in about 18 months. Should I apply for SSI now even though we'll probably be denied? Or wait until our financial situation changes? Also, all three of my children have diagnosed disabilities, but my older two (17 and 19) likely wouldn't meet the SSA's disability criteria. Only my youngest has conditions severe enough to potentially qualify. I'm really confused about how survivor benefits and SSI interact. Can a child receive both? Do I need to choose one program over the other? Any advice from someone who's navigated this would be incredibly helpful.
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Isaiah Cross
Yes, your child can potentially receive both Social Security survivor benefits AND Supplemental Security Income (SSI) at the same time. These are two completely different programs: 1. Survivor benefits - This is based on your late husband's work record and isn't means-tested. 2. SSI - This is needs-based with strict income and resource limits ($2000 for an individual). However, the survivor benefits count as income for SSI purposes, which reduces the SSI payment dollar-for-dollar (after a small exclusion). So if your son's survivor benefit exceeds the maximum SSI payment (currently $943/month for 2025), he wouldn't receive any SSI payment even if he medically qualifies. I'd recommend applying now regardless, because: - It establishes a medical determination of disability - The application process can take many months - When your financial situation changes, you can update SSA rather than starting from scratch The home you live in and one vehicle are excluded from the resource limit. The second vehicle might count toward resources depending on its use and value.
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Joy Olmedo
•Thank you for explaining this so clearly! His survivor benefit is $1,275/month, so it sounds like he probably wouldn't get an SSI payment right now even if approved medically. I didn't realize I could apply now just to establish the disability determination. That makes a lot of sense since our financial situation will be changing in the near future.
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Kiara Greene
I went through something similar with my daughter. The SSA will count YOUR income and resources when determining your child's SSI eligibility - it's called "deeming." With the life insurance and VA benefits, plus two cars, you're absolutely going to be denied for SSI right now. But here's the thing - once your child turns 18, they're considered an independent household for SSI purposes. So even if you're denied now, DEFINITELY apply again when he turns 18 because then only HIS income and resources count (not yours). And yes, apply now anyway. The disability determination is separate from the financial determination, and having that established will help later. The system is RIDICULOUS and designed to make people give up!!! They denied my daughter THREE TIMES before we finally got approved with a lawyer's help.
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Evelyn Kelly
•this is good advice about applying at 18! my nephew had to do that. but the survivor benefits will still count as his income even after 18 tho. just fyi
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Paloma Clark
One thing no one's mentioned yet - if your son is approved for SSI disability, he would automatically qualify for Medicaid in most states. This is actually the biggest benefit for many families, especially if your child has significant medical needs. The cash payment from SSI might be reduced or eliminated because of the survivor benefits, but the Medicaid eligibility could be extremely valuable. Also, I'd recommend keeping detailed records of all your son's medical appointments, treatments, medications, and how his disabilities affect daily activities. This documentation will be crucial for the disability determination part of the SSI application.
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Joy Olmedo
•That's a really important point about Medicaid! He does have significant medical expenses that our private insurance doesn't fully cover. I'll definitely start organizing all his medical records right away. Would records from the past year be enough, or should I go back further?
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Paloma Clark
•Go back as far as you can - at least 2-3 years if possible. SSA will look at the entire history and progression of his disabilities. Also make sure you have documentation from all specialists who have treated him. The more comprehensive, the better your chances of approval.
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Heather Tyson
your definitely going to get denied for SSI with those assets/income but you should apply anyway because otherwise your just delaying the inevitable process. it usually takes like 3 applications and appeals before they approve anyone these days lol. my sister has a disabled daughter and it took FOREVER! start the process now so when your finances change you'll be further along in the system.
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Raul Neal
I went through the EXACT same situation with my son when my husband died. He had muscular dystrophy and was getting survivor benefits. The trick is to apply for SSI now, get the medical approval, then when your finances change, you just update SSA. BTW - you mentioned multiple vehicles. If the second vehicle is used to transport your disabled child to medical appointments, you might be able to exclude it from the resource calculation! Not many people know about this exception. Ask specifically about this when you apply. SSA makes it so complicated on purpose. I spent HOURS on the phone trying to get straight answers. I finally used Claimyr (claimyr.com) to get through to a real person at SSA without waiting on hold forever. They have this service where they get you through the phone system and to an agent in minutes. Check out their demo video at https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU - saved me so much frustration!
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Joy Olmedo
•Thank you for this! I didn't know there might be an exception for a second vehicle used for medical transportation. We definitely use our newer car for his appointments since it's more reliable for the longer drives to specialists. I'll check out that Claimyr service - I've already wasted so much time trying to get through to SSA on the phone and either getting disconnected or waiting forever.
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Evelyn Kelly
my cousin gets both survivor benefits and SSI for her kid but the SSI is only like $95 a month because the survivor benefit reduces it. but she says even that small amount is worth it because it automatically qualified her daughter for medicaid and a bunch of other services in our state. definitely worth applying!
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Jenna Sloan
Important to understand: SSI and Social Security survivor benefits are administered by the same agency (SSA) but are completely different programs with different eligibility rules. Considering your assets and income currently exceed SSI limits, here's what you should do: 1. Apply for SSI now - this creates a protective filing date 2. When denied for financial reasons, appeal and request just a medical determination 3. If approved medically but denied financially, you'll be in position to quickly activate benefits when your financial situation changes Also, be aware that when your child turns 18, survivor benefits typically end unless they're still in high school (then they continue until graduation or age 19, whichever comes first). However, if your child is determined disabled before age 22, they may qualify for Disabled Adult Child benefits on your husband's record, which can continue indefinitely. This is DIFFERENT from SSI. The complexity of coordinating these benefits is why consulting with a benefits specialist is often worth the time.
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Kiara Greene
•YES about the Disabled Adult Child benefits!!! Wish someone had told me about this earlier. My daughter almost lost her benefits when she turned 18 until a helpful SSA rep explained this to me. You have to specifically ASK for this though because they don't volunteer the information! The system is DESIGNED to make things difficult!
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Joy Olmedo
Thank you all so much for the helpful advice! I'm going to apply for SSI right away to get the disability determination process started, even though I know we'll be denied based on our current finances. I'll make sure to specifically ask about the vehicle exception and the Disabled Adult Child benefits too. I've started gathering all his medical records going back several years. His main conditions are autism (level 2), epilepsy, and a rare genetic disorder that affects his mobility. I'm hoping that with good documentation, the medical determination part will go smoothly. I really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences. It makes me feel less alone in navigating this complicated system.
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Christian Burns
Just to add some information that may be helpful - make sure when you apply that you also ask about CHIP (Children's Health Insurance Program) or your state's equivalent if you don't already have this coverage. Even if you're denied SSI due to financial reasons, your child might still qualify for some health coverage programs based on his disabilities. Also, don't forget to look into state-specific disability programs. Many states have supplemental programs beyond what SSA offers. Your local Developmental Disabilities Administration or Community Services Board might have resources regardless of SSI eligibility. Lastly, document EVERYTHING about how his disabilities impact daily living - not just medical appointments, but things like: needs help with dressing, cannot be left unsupervised, requires assistance with meals, has difficulty following multi-step instructions, etc. These functional limitations are just as important as the medical diagnoses for SSA's disability determination.
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