Widow benefits while still working - can I claim my husband's SS without reducing my $50k salary?
I'm stuck in a difficult situation and completely lost about survivor benefits. I'm 63 and my husband is 77 with declining health. He currently receives $2,750/month in SS benefits while still working part-time. We've been married 16 years. After years of low-paying jobs with no retirement benefits, I finally finished my degree and now make $62,000 at a small non-profit (still no retirement plan). I've only managed to save about $9,500 in my personal retirement account and I'm drowning in roughly $130,000 of student loan debt. If something happens to my husband, how would survivor benefits work? Can I claim them while still working full-time? Would I have to reduce my income or wait until my full retirement age? My own SS benefit would only be around $1,125 at FRA due to my work history. It feels pointless to give up my new salary just to collect benefits, but I also can't afford to retire... ever. I've tried researching online but get conflicting information about earnings limits and when survivor benefits can start. Any guidance would be appreciated.
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Ryan Young
Survivor benefits work differently than retirement benefits. You can actually claim widow's benefits as early as age 60 (or 50 if disabled), but there are some important things to understand: 1. If you claim before your Full Retirement Age (FRA), the benefit amount will be reduced 2. The earnings test DOES apply to survivor benefits if you claim before FRA. For 2025, you can earn up to $22,320 without reduction. Above that, they withhold $1 in benefits for every $2 you earn over the limit. 3. Once you reach your FRA, the earnings test goes away completely. You can earn any amount without reduction in benefits. 4. At your FRA, you'd be eligible for 100% of your husband's benefit amount as a survivor benefit. Based on your income of $62,000, claiming before FRA would result in significant benefit reduction or potential suspension until you reach FRA.
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Samantha Hall
•Thank you for the clear explanation! So if I understand correctly, I could potentially claim survivor benefits when/if my husband passes, but if I'm still working and earning $62k, those benefits would be drastically reduced until I hit my FRA? What happens after I reach FRA? Would I get his full $2,750 monthly benefit at that point even while continuing to work? Or would I have to choose between his benefit and my own smaller benefit?
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Sophia Clark
I went thru exact same thing when my husband past away!! They make it SO COMPLICATED!!! I was 61 and working full-time making like $48k. When i tried claiming his benefit they said i wuldnt get hardly anything because of the income limits!!! Its such a ripoff! The gov takes all our money and then makes it impossible to get it back.
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Samantha Hall
•It's really frustrating! I'm sorry you went through that. Did you end up waiting until FRA to claim your survivor benefits? I feel like I'm being punished for finally making a decent salary after struggling for years.
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Katherine Harris
There's a strategy worth considering in your situation. When you reach your Full Retirement Age, survivor benefits are no longer subject to the earnings test. At that point, you could: 1. Take the survivor benefit (your husband's full benefit amount of $2,750) 2. Continue working at your current salary with no reduction in benefits 3. Allow your own retirement benefit to grow with delayed retirement credits until age 70 4. At 70, if your own benefit has grown larger than the survivor benefit, you can switch to your own. This gives you the best of both worlds - immediate income from survivor benefits at FRA with no penalty for working, while allowing your own benefit to grow to its maximum amount.
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Samantha Hall
•That sounds like a really smart approach! So at my FRA I could get his full benefit while still working, and then potentially switch to my own at 70 if it's higher? Would my own benefit actually grow enough to exceed his $2,750 if I wait until 70? My current estimate at FRA is only about $1,125.
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Madison Allen
EVERYBODY keeps saying wait till FRA but nobody explains how we're supposed to survive until then!!! I'm dealing with a similar thing and the whole system is designed to keep us working until we die. I tried calling SSA to get a straight answer and spent HOURS on hold only to get disconnected 3 times!!!!
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Joshua Wood
•I had the same experience trying to understand my own widow benefits. After getting disconnected multiple times, I used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to an SSA agent in under 10 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU The agent I spoke with explained that with survivor benefits, I could actually claim as early as 60, but then switch to my own retirement benefit later if it would be higher. That flexibility isn't well explained on their website.
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Justin Evans
Your student loans might actually qualify for forgiveness if you work for a non-profit! Look into Public Service Loan Forgiveness (PSLF) program. My sister got her loans forgiven after 10 years at a non-profit.
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Emily Parker
•This is important advice but slightly off-topic. The PSLF program requires 120 qualifying payments (10 years) while working for a qualifying employer. At 63, the OP might not have 10 more years before retirement, but it's definitely worth looking into, especially with such high student loan debt. Regarding the original question about survivor benefits - one thing no one has mentioned is that if you're collecting survivor benefits at FRA or later and still working, you'll still pay income tax on your combined income (work + SS benefits) which could push you into a higher tax bracket. This doesn't reduce your SS benefit but affects overall tax liability.
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Sophia Clark
I thoght survivers benfits were 75% of what they get? Thats what my frend told me when her husband died last yr.
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Ryan Young
•That's not quite accurate. Survivor benefits can be up to 100% of what the deceased spouse was receiving if you claim at your Full Retirement Age or later. The 71.5% figure applies if you claim survivor benefits at age 60 (the earliest possible age for widow(er) benefits). Here's the approximate reduction schedule for survivor benefits: - Age 60: 71.5% of deceased's benefit - Age 61: 76.25% - Age 62: 81% - Age 63: 85.75% - Age 64: 90.5% - Age 65: 95.25% - FRA: 100% These percentages are different from regular retirement benefit reductions, which confuses many people.
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Samantha Hall
I really appreciate everyone's help! I think I'm starting to understand this better. So if something happens to my husband, I have options: 1. Claim survivor benefits early but face significant reductions due to both early claiming AND the earnings test 2. Wait until FRA to claim 100% of his benefit with no earnings limit, while still working 3. Potentially delay my own benefit until 70 to maximize it I'm going to try calling SSA to get my specific numbers. Does anyone have tips for actually getting through to a real person there?
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Joshua Wood
•Yes! Like I mentioned above, I used Claimyr (claimyr.com) and got through to SSA in minutes instead of hours. Their service connects you directly to an SSA agent. I found their video demo helpful: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU When you do talk to SSA, ask specifically about the "restricted application" strategy, which allows you to take survivor benefits while your own retirement benefit continues to grow. They might not volunteer this information unless you ask directly.
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Ryan Young
One more important point: If your husband passes away, you would be eligible for a one-time death benefit payment of $255 from Social Security. It's not much, but it's something. Also, regarding your student loans - federal student loans are discharged upon death, and there are income-driven repayment plans that could help while you're alive. If you're working for a non-profit, definitely look into PSLF as someone suggested. The survivor benefit rules are complex but designed to provide flexibility. The key decision points are: 1. When to claim (early with reduction vs. FRA with full amount) 2. How your current earnings affect benefits before FRA 3. When/if to switch between survivor benefits and your own retirement benefit A personalized analysis of your exact situation by SSA would be very helpful.
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Samantha Hall
•Thank you! I didn't know about the death benefit - not a large amount but good to be aware of. I'm definitely going to look into PSLF too. I think my best strategy might be to continue working at my current job, and if my husband passes before I reach FRA, evaluate whether it makes sense to reduce my hours to get under that earnings limit or just wait until FRA to claim the full survivor benefit. A lot depends on my financial situation at that time. I really appreciate everyone taking the time to explain this complicated system. It's not easy to navigate!
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