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Social Security survivor benefits vs retirement benefits with Federal Workers' Comp offset - what happens at 62?

I'm trying to understand how my benefits will change in the future. I'm 60 and just started receiving SS survivor benefits this past August after my husband passed away from injuries sustained while working for the federal government 3 years ago. I'm currently receiving Federal Workers' Compensation benefits, but they're deducting $2,143.65 monthly for what they call a "SSA/FERS offset." When I called to ask about this substantial deduction, the representative said it would stop once I "collect retirement on his record" but wouldn't elaborate further. I've tried calling multiple times but keep getting different answers or long hold times. Does anyone know if survivor benefits automatically convert to retirement benefits when I turn 62? Or do I need to apply for something different? I want to make sure I'm making the right financial decisions, especially with these complicated offset rules. The WC benefit is important for my monthly budget, and I need to understand how these benefits will change over time.

Carmen Ortiz

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survivor benefits dont change to retiremnt! they r completely diffrent things. u have to apply for retirment at 62 if u want it but why would u? survivor benefits r usually higher $$$ than early retirement

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Yuki Yamamoto

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Thank you for responding. So they're completely separate? The WC person made it sound like something would automatically change at 62. I'm so confused about all this!

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This is a complex situation with Federal Workers' Compensation and Social Security survivor benefits. To clarify: survivor benefits do NOT automatically convert to retirement benefits at age 62. They are different benefits with different rules. What the WC representative likely meant is that the offset calculation changes at retirement age. There's a complicated interplay between FERS (Federal Employee Retirement System), Workers' Compensation, and Social Security benefits. At 62, you have options: 1. Continue receiving survivor benefits (which can be collected for life) 2. Apply for your OWN retirement benefits if they would be higher 3. Potentially apply for retirement benefits on your husband's record The offset amount is typically calculated based on what you're eligible to receive, even if you don't apply. I recommend contacting SSA directly for clarification on how the offset will change at age 62 in your specific situation.

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Yuki Yamamoto

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This is incredibly helpful information! I had no idea they were completely separate benefits. Does this mean I should contact SSA to see what my own retirement benefit would be at 62 versus continuing with the survivor benefit? And should I get something in writing from Workers' Comp about how the offset changes?

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Zoe Papadakis

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My husband was also a federal employee who died on the job and I dealt with similar WC offset issues. The terminology they use is SO CONFUSING!!! What they're talking about is the calculation method changes when you reach minimum retirement age. It doesn't mean your survivor benefits automatically convert to anything else. The FERS offset is calculated differently once you're eligible for retirement benefits, even if you don't take them. You should definitely request a DETAILED EXPLANATION IN WRITING from OWCP about how your offset will be calculated after 62. They hate putting things in writing but INSIST ON IT!!

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This is excellent advice. The OWCP (Office of Workers' Compensation Programs) offset calculations are notoriously complex and getting the explanation in writing is crucial. I'd also recommend requesting a benefit verification letter from SSA so you can see exactly what type of benefit you're receiving and the amount.

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Jamal Carter

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Yuki Yamamoto

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I haven't heard of that service before. I'll check it out because I've been trying for weeks to speak with someone at SSA. Did they explain the differences between the benefit types clearly?

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To answer your specific question: No, survivor benefits do NOT automatically change to retirement benefits at age 62 - or at any age. They are completely separate benefit types. What gets confusing is that at FRA (Full Retirement Age), survivor benefits reach 100% of what your deceased spouse would receive. Before FRA, they're reduced. At 62, you become eligible to apply for your OWN retirement benefits. You have choices: 1. Continue survivor benefits only 2. Switch to your own retirement (if higher) 3. Take reduced retirement at 62, then switch to full survivor benefits at your FRA Regarding the Workers' Comp offset: OWCP (Office of Workers' Compensation Programs) has to reduce benefits when combined with certain Social Security benefits due to federal law preventing "double-dipping." The calculation method changes at minimum retirement age, which might be what they were referring to. I recommend scheduling an appointment with SSA to review all options and getting a written explanation from OWCP about the offset changes at 62.

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Mei Liu

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but isnt there some special rule for federal workers? my cousin works for usps and she said something about fers and wep that makes everything different for gov employees

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For the previous question: Yes, there are special considerations for federal employees. FERS (Federal Employee Retirement System) and WEP (Windfall Elimination Provision) do affect benefits, but they work differently than the offset calculation being discussed here. The original poster is dealing with an OWCP/SSA offset because her deceased husband was receiving workers' compensation. This is governed by different rules than regular FERS retirement or the WEP. To the original poster: I highly recommend requesting a detailed benefits analysis from SSA. They can provide personalized calculations showing: 1. Your current survivor benefit amount 2. What your own retirement benefit would be at 62, FRA, and 70 3. How the OWCP offset might change at different ages This allows you to make an informed decision about when/if to switch benefits.

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Yuki Yamamoto

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Thank you for this detailed explanation. I'm definitely going to request that benefits analysis from SSA. I've been trying to get through on the phone but it's been impossible. Maybe I'll try going to the local office in person.

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Zoe Papadakis

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Jusy FYI dont trust everything workers comp tells you!!!!! I got told 3 DIFFERENT THINGS by 3 different people there about my offset. The only way I finally got it straight was talking to someone in the policy division AND getting it in writing. My offset did change when I hit 62 but not how they originally told me it would. Make sure you talk to a supervisor at OWCP not just the regular claims examiners.

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Yuki Yamamoto

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Thanks for the warning. I've already noticed inconsistencies in what they tell me! Did you eventually get everything resolved correctly?

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Jamal Carter

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I had similar trouble reaching SSA when dealing with my husband's survivor benefits. After using Claimyr to get through to SSA (claimyr.com), I discovered I was eligible for both survivor benefits AND my own retirement, but could only receive the higher of the two. The SSA agent explained that at 62, I could choose to take my own reduced retirement benefit if it was higher than my survivor benefit, or I could wait until FRA for a higher amount. They ran different scenarios so I could see which would provide more lifetime benefits. Definitely worth getting that personalized analysis.

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Zoe Papadakis

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I FINALLY got through to SSA myself after weeks of trying and they ran all my scenarios too. Made such a difference knowing the exact numbers instead of guessing! The worker's comp offset calculations are still confusing but at least I understand my SS options now.

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Mei Liu

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My aunt went thru something similar with federal workers comp after my uncle died. The WC people kept talking about "retirement age" but what they really meant was that the CALCULATION for the offset changes, not that your benefits automatically switch to something else. Its super confusing and the WC people dont explain it very well!!! Your survivor benefits keep going as long as you dont remarry (at least that was true for my aunt).

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Yuki Yamamoto

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That's good to know about the calculation changing rather than the benefits switching! And yes, I was told the same about remarriage affecting survivor benefits. I wish they would explain these things more clearly upfront.

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