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I went through something similar last year. The key thing is to be completely honest when you file your claim and during any interviews. Don't try to hide the no call no show - they'll find out anyway when they contact your employer. Focus on documenting the toxic work environment as much as possible. Even without medical records for the panic attacks, if you have any text messages, emails, or coworkers who witnessed the hostile conditions, gather all of that. I also recommend looking into whether your state has any mental health resources that might help you get documentation retroactively. The process isn't fun, but you might be surprised - sometimes employers don't fight unemployment claims as hard as you'd expect, especially if they know their workplace had issues.
This is really helpful advice, thank you. I do have some text messages from coworkers complaining about the same supervisor who was making my life hell, so maybe that could help my case. The part about employers not always fighting claims gives me some hope too. Did you end up getting approved eventually? And how long did the whole process take from filing to actually receiving benefits?
I'm in a similar boat right now and just wanted to share what I've learned from talking to others who've been through this. The no call no show definitely complicates things, but it's not an automatic disqualification like some people think. When you file, they'll ask you to explain why you left your job - be honest about the panic attacks and toxic environment, but also acknowledge that you handled it poorly by not communicating. NYS DOL seems to care more about whether you had legitimate reasons for your actions rather than whether you followed proper procedures. I'd also suggest starting to document everything you can remember about the toxic workplace now while it's fresh - dates, specific incidents, any witnesses. Even if you don't have medical records for the panic attacks, a detailed timeline of what was happening at work that led to your mental health issues could help your case. The worst they can do is say no, and then you can appeal with more evidence.
Hey Zoe! I went through something super similar last year. The alternate base period was exactly what saved my claim. Since you made $8k in that October-December quarter, you're actually in a pretty good position. Here's what I learned: when they can't use the standard base period (because you didn't meet the earnings threshold in earlier quarters), they automatically check if you qualify under the alternate base period. Your recent $8k quarter will likely be the key. A few things that helped me: - Make sure you have all your pay stubs from that October-December period ready - When you finally get through to someone, be super clear about wanting them to check the alternate base period specifically - Don't get discouraged if the first person you talk to seems confused - some reps know more about this than others The fact that you were let go (not fired for misconduct) in January should work in your favor too. Keep pushing through the process - it's frustrating but you've got a solid case! 💪
Just wanted to chime in as another newcomer who was totally confused by this same question! I've been on unemployment for about 3 weeks now and that "refuse job offers" question had me scratching my head too. After reading everyone's explanations, it's crystal clear that "No" is correct when you haven't actually refused any offers. I love how @Abigail Patel broke it down - the question is literally asking "did you turn down work?" and if you didn't get any offers to turn down, then no, you didn't refuse anything. I'm definitely implementing the screenshot strategy and starting a job search spreadsheet after seeing @Sydney Torres mention getting audited. It's honestly crazy that we have to be this prepared just to claim benefits we've earned, but better safe than sorry with this system. Thanks to everyone who took the time to explain this - this community is seriously a lifesaver for navigating NY's confusing unemployment maze! 🙏
Yes! This whole thread has been incredibly helpful for understanding the system. I'm also pretty new to this (about 2 weeks in) and that question had me panicking because I thought maybe I was missing something obvious. It's reassuring to see so many people confirming that "No" is right when you haven't refused any offers. The fact that we need an entire discussion thread to decode one simple question really shows how broken the wording is! Definitely going to start keeping better records after reading about the audit experiences. Thanks everyone for making this less scary for us newcomers!
New to NY unemployment here and this thread has been a huge help! I was getting so stressed about that same question because the wording makes it seem like there's some trick to it. But after reading everyone's explanations, it's clear that "No" is absolutely correct when you haven't received any job offers to refuse. What really helped me was @Chloe Boulanger's point about not overthinking it - the question really is just asking "did you turn down a job?" in the most confusing way possible. I've been applying everywhere but only got one interview that didn't lead anywhere, so definitely no offers to refuse. Starting my documentation spreadsheet today after seeing all the audit stories! It's wild that we need to prepare like we're going to court just to claim benefits, but this community has made me feel so much more confident about navigating the system. Thanks everyone for breaking this down for us newcomers - you've saved me so much anxiety! 🙏
I'm in a very similar situation with my marketing consulting business - no clients since late December and really struggling financially. Reading through these responses is incredibly helpful, especially Isabella's detailed experience. One thing I'm still unclear about though is the timing of filing. Should I wait until I've been without income for a certain period, or can I file as soon as the work dried up? I've been hesitant to file because I keep hoping a new client will come through, but at this point I think I need to be realistic about my situation. Also, has anyone had experience with NYS Department of Labor questioning whether you're genuinely seeking other employment opportunities while your business is dormant? I'm worried they might think I'm just waiting for my business to pick back up rather than actively looking for work.
@Caden Turner I m'dealing with the exact same dilemma! My web development business has been dead since January and I ve'been going back and forth on whether to file. From what I ve'read here and researched online, you can file as soon as you meet the totally "unemployed criteria" - you don t'need to wait a specific amount of time. The key is being honest about your job search efforts. I think NYS Department of Labor expects you to be genuinely looking for work, not just waiting for your business to recover. You might want to start applying for some regular employment positions to show you re'serious about finding alternative income. That way if they ask during the adjudication process, you can demonstrate you re'actively seeking work beyond just hoping your consulting picks up again.
@Caden Turner I was in almost the exact same boat last year with my freelance photography business. The waiting and hoping for clients to return while your savings dwindle is brutal. I finally filed after about 6 weeks of no income and honestly wish I had done it sooner. NYS Department of Labor doesn t'require you to wait - if you re'unemployed and meet the criteria, you can file right away. Regarding the job search requirement, they do expect you to be actively looking for work. I started applying for part-time positions and even some full-time roles as backup while keeping my business dormant. It actually helped during my phone interview with them because I could show I was taking concrete steps to find income, not just passively waiting. The weekly certifications ask specific questions about your job search activities, so having real applications and interviews to report made the process much smoother. Don t'wait too long - the benefits are calculated from when you file, not when you first became unemployed.
I'm going through this exact situation right now with my freelance writing business. After reading everyone's experiences here, I decided to file my claim last week even though my business is technically still open. What really helped me was keeping detailed records of when my last client payment came in (December 15th) and screenshots showing zero new inquiries or projects since then. During my initial phone interview, the NYS Department of Labor representative seemed most concerned about whether I was doing any work activities at all - even things like updating my portfolio or networking. I had to assure them that I've completely stepped back from all business activities and am focusing solely on finding traditional employment. The process is definitely nerve-wracking, but based on what I've read here and my own research, as long as you're completely honest about your situation and can prove you're genuinely unemployed (not just slow), you should be eligible. The key is documenting everything and being prepared to show that your business income has truly stopped, not just decreased.
@Oliver Schulz Thank you for sharing your current experience - it s'really helpful to hear from someone who just went through the filing process! I m'curious about the phone interview you mentioned. How long after you filed did they contact you for that interview? And did they ask for any specific documentation during that call, or was it more about verbally confirming your situation? I m'planning to file next week and want to make sure I have everything organized beforehand. Also, when you mentioned stepping back from all "business activities, did" that include things like maintaining your business licenses or basic administrative tasks, or just the actual work/marketing activities? I want to make sure I understand exactly what counts as work "in" their eyes.
@Oliver Schulz This is exactly the kind of real-time experience I was hoping to find! I m'in a very similar situation with my consulting business - last client payment was in early December and I ve'been agonizing over whether to file. Your point about documenting everything is really smart. I ve'been keeping records but hadn t'thought about taking screenshots of my empty inbox/project pipeline. When they asked about stepping back from all business activities, did they get into specifics about things like keeping your business bank account open or maintaining your LLC registration? I m'wondering if there s'a difference between administrative maintenance versus actual business operations in their view. Also, how long did they say the adjudication process would take in your case? I know it varies, but any timeline would help me plan financially.
Ella Knight
Just wanted to share what worked for me after dealing with this nightmare for 3 days straight! I was getting the same OKTA verification loop where it would just hang forever. Turns out the issue was my VPN - once I disconnected it completely and restarted my browser, the verification went through immediately. Also make sure you're not using any ad blockers or privacy extensions that might be interfering with the authentication process. Hope this helps someone! 🙏
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Malik Jackson
•omg thank you so much! just tried disconnecting my vpn and it worked instantly 😭 been stuck on this for days and ready to lose my mind. you're a lifesaver!
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Aiden Rodríguez
Had this exact same issue last week! What finally worked for me was logging out completely, clearing my browser cookies specifically for the NY unemployment site (not just cache), and then waiting about 30 minutes before trying again. Something about their session timing seems to get messed up. Also try accessing the site during off-peak hours like early morning - seems like their servers get overloaded during busy times. Don't give up, the system is buggy but it does eventually work! 💪
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Nia Thompson
•This is super helpful! I've been banging my head against the wall with this OKTA thing for 2 days now. Going to try the early morning approach tomorrow - makes total sense that their servers would be less slammed at like 6am. Question though - when you cleared cookies specifically for the site, did you have to re-enter all your login info or does it remember some stuff? Thanks for sharing what worked! 🤞
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