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Confused about who pays unemployment taxes - Washington ESD question

I just started my first job and I'm trying to understand how unemployment works. My coworker mentioned something about unemployment taxes but I'm not seeing any deductions on my paystub for unemployment. I see FICA and federal taxes but nothing labeled unemployment. Does this mean my employer pays it? Or am I missing something? I want to make sure I understand how Washington ESD gets funded in case I ever need to file for benefits.

Your employer pays the unemployment taxes, not you! In Washington state, employers pay both state unemployment insurance (SUTA) and federal unemployment tax (FUTA). You won't see any unemployment deductions on your paystub because it's 100% employer-funded. The Washington ESD collects these taxes from employers to fund the unemployment insurance program.

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That makes sense! So I'm automatically covered without having to pay anything extra?

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Exactly! As long as your employer is paying their unemployment taxes, you're covered if you become unemployed through no fault of your own.

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yeah employers hate paying unemployment taxes lol. my old boss used to complain about it all the time. but that's how the system works - they pay in so workers can get benefits when they get laid off or fired without cause

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My boss complained too but honestly it's not that expensive compared to other business costs. Small price to pay for a safety net for workers.

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Some employers try to fight unemployment claims to keep their tax rates low. It's frustrating when you have a legitimate claim.

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To be more specific, Washington employers pay state unemployment insurance tax to Washington ESD based on their payroll and their experience rating. The tax rate varies by employer - new employers pay a standard rate, but established employers pay rates based on how many former employees have filed UI claims. There's also the federal unemployment tax (FUTA) that goes to the federal government.

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What's an experience rating? Does that mean employers who lay people off more pay higher rates?

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Yes, exactly! Employers with more former employees filing successful UI claims will have higher tax rates. It's designed to make employers think twice about unnecessary layoffs.

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That explains why some employers fight legitimate claims so hard. They're trying to keep their rates down.

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I had to deal with Washington ESD when I got laid off last year and couldn't get through to anyone for weeks! The phone system was impossible. Finally found this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that helped me get connected to an actual person at Washington ESD. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works. Saved me so much frustration trying to get my claim status updated.

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Never heard of that service. Is it legit or just another scam?

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It's totally legitimate. They don't ask for personal info or anything sketchy. Just helps you get through Washington ESD's phone queue when you actually need to talk to someone.

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Might have to try that. I've been trying to reach Washington ESD about my claim for two weeks with no luck.

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EMPLOYERS PAY EVERYTHING! Sorry for caps but this is important - you as an employee pay ZERO unemployment taxes. Your employer pays both state and federal unemployment taxes. The only thing that comes out of your check is regular income tax, Social Security, and Medicare. Unemployment insurance is completely employer-funded in Washington state.

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Thank you for clarifying! I was worried I was supposed to be paying something extra.

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I wish more people understood this. I've heard coworkers complain about 'freeloaders' on unemployment not realizing their own employer paid for those benefits.

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This is actually really important to understand because some people think unemployment benefits are like welfare when they're actually insurance that employers pay for. When you file for UI benefits, you're claiming insurance that was paid for by your previous employers.

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Exactly! It's not a handout, it's insurance. You earned those benefits by working for employers who paid into the system.

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Wish more politicians understood this distinction when they talk about unemployment benefits.

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i think there might be some states where employees pay part of unemployment tax but not washington. here it's all employer paid. dont quote me on other states tho

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You're right that some states do have employee contributions, but Washington is employer-funded only. Alaska, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania have employee contributions I believe.

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Good to know Washington keeps it simple with just employer contributions.

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The tax rates also change based on the health of the unemployment trust fund. When the fund gets low (like during recessions), tax rates can go up across the board. During COVID the Washington unemployment fund got pretty depleted.

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Makes sense. More people filing claims means the fund needs more money coming in from taxes.

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COVID was crazy for unemployment. So many people filed that the system couldn't handle it.

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Just want to add that even though employers pay the taxes, good employers don't mind because they know it provides security for their workers. It's part of the social safety net that makes our economy more stable.

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True, responsible employers see it as part of doing business ethically.

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Unfortunately not all employers see it that way. Some really fight legitimate claims hard.

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For anyone who needs to contact Washington ESD about their benefits or has questions about eligibility, I also had success with that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier. Was able to get through and talk to someone about my weekly claim certification when I couldn't reach them any other way.

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How much does something like that cost?

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I don't want to get into pricing here, but for me it was worth it to actually get my issue resolved instead of calling for weeks with no results.

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Bottom line is you don't need to worry about paying unemployment taxes as an employee in Washington. Your employer handles all of that. Just focus on doing your job well and you'll be covered if something happens.

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Thanks everyone! This really helped me understand how the system works.

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Good question to ask. More people should understand how these systems actually work.

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One thing to remember is that you need to have worked for employers who paid these taxes to be eligible for benefits. If you work under the table or for employers who don't pay their taxes, you won't be covered.

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That's why it's important to work for legitimate employers who follow the law.

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Also why you should report employers who aren't paying their required taxes. They're cheating the system and their workers.

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Honestly the whole system works pretty well when you understand it. Employers pay in, workers get protection when they lose jobs through no fault of their own. Much better than having no safety net at all.

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Agree. It's not perfect but it's better than nothing when you suddenly lose your income.

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The system definitely helped me when I got laid off. Gave me time to find a good job instead of taking the first thing I could find.

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Also worth noting that Washington ESD publishes information about unemployment tax rates and collections if you're curious about the numbers. It's all public information since it's a government program.

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Where can you find that information? Sounds interesting.

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Washington ESD website has employer information sections with tax rate schedules and fund balance reports.

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Thanks for asking this question OP! I actually wasn't 100% sure myself and learned something new today about how the experience rating affects employer tax rates.

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Same here. I knew employers paid but didn't understand the details about how rates are determined.

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These kinds of basic questions are really helpful for everyone.

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If anyone else is dealing with Washington ESD issues and can't get through their regular phone lines, definitely check out that Claimyr thing. I was skeptical at first but it actually worked to get me connected when I needed help with my claim status.

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Good to know there are options when the regular system isn't working.

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Washington ESD phone system can be really frustrating during busy times.

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One last thing - make sure you keep good records of where you work and when, because if you ever need to file for unemployment, Washington ESD will verify your work history with your previous employers who paid those taxes.

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Good advice. I keep a simple spreadsheet with my job history just in case.

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Your Social Security statement also shows your work history which can be helpful for unemployment claims.

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Hope this all helps! The key takeaway is that unemployment insurance is paid for by employers, not employees, so you're automatically covered when you work for legitimate employers in Washington state.

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Definitely helps! Thanks to everyone who took the time to explain this.

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Great community discussion. Love when people help each other understand these systems.

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