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One additional important point: Your husband will only be able to collect spousal benefits when YOU file for your retirement benefits. Since you're planning to wait until 70, he won't be able to receive spousal benefits until then, even if he's already retired from his federal job. There used to be a strategy called "file and suspend" that would have allowed him to collect while you delayed, but that option was eliminated in 2015 with the Bipartisan Budget Act. So factor that timing into your retirement plans.

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That's a really important point I hadn't considered. He's retiring at 62 next year, but I won't be 70 for another 3 years after that. So there will be a gap where he'll have his FERS pension but no Social Security spousal benefits. We'll need to budget accordingly. Thanks for pointing this out!

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Sofia Gomez

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Just wanted to add some clarity on the timing aspect that Matthew mentioned. Since your husband is retiring at 62 but you're waiting until 70, you might want to consider whether it makes sense for you to file earlier if the spousal benefit would be substantial for your household budget during those gap years. Remember that even if you file at your full retirement age instead of 70, you'd still get your full Primary Insurance Amount (PIA), and your husband could get up to 50% of that amount as a spousal benefit (assuming no GPO reduction as a FERS employee). You'd miss out on the delayed retirement credits that boost your benefit by 8% per year until 70, but you'd both have income coming in sooner. It's a trade-off calculation: your higher benefit at 70 vs. having both benefits starting earlier. A financial planner familiar with Social Security strategies might be helpful for running the numbers on your specific situation.

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That's a really smart perspective on the timing trade-off! I hadn't thought about filing earlier just to get his spousal benefits started. We'll definitely need to crunch those numbers - it might make more sense to have both incomes flowing rather than maximize just mine. Do you happen to know if there are any good online calculators that can help model these different scenarios? I'd love to see the math before making that decision.

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Eli Butler

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One more thing to consider: if you return to work, especially at a good salary like $55,000, you'll be adding to your lifetime earnings record. Social Security calculates your benefit amount based on your highest 35 years of earnings. If this new job would replace a lower-earning year or a zero in your calculation, you could actually increase your benefit amount going forward, beyond just the adjustment for withheld benefits.

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I hadn't even thought about that aspect! I do have a couple of zero years in my record from when I was raising kids, so this could actually improve my benefit calculation. Sounds like this job might be worth taking even with the temporary reduction. Thank you all for the helpful information!

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Carmen Vega

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Just want to add one practical tip that helped me when I was in a similar situation: consider asking your potential employer if there's any flexibility in when you start or how your compensation is structured. Some employers are willing to delay a start date by a few months if it helps with your Social Security situation, or they might be able to structure part of your compensation as benefits rather than salary (which wouldn't count toward the earnings test). It's worth having that conversation since many employers these days are more understanding about Social Security considerations for older workers. Good luck with whatever you decide!

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That's really smart advice about discussing compensation structure with the employer! I never would have thought to ask about that. Do you know what kinds of benefits wouldn't count toward the earnings limit? Like if they offered more health insurance coverage or retirement contributions instead of straight salary, would that help reduce the amount that gets counted against my Social Security?

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I'm really sorry for your loss. Your mom is definitely in a good position to receive divorced widow's benefits based on what you've described. The 25-year marriage length far exceeds the 10-year minimum requirement, and his remarriage has zero impact on her eligibility. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet - when your mom does apply, make sure she asks about potentially receiving any lump-sum death payment ($255) that might be available. It's a small amount but every bit helps during this transition. Also, since she's 62 now, she has the option to start benefits immediately at the reduced rate, or wait closer to her full retirement age to get a higher monthly amount. Given that you mentioned money might be tight with her limited work history, starting sooner rather than later probably makes the most sense. The process can feel overwhelming, but you're asking all the right questions. Your mom has earned these benefits through her marriage, so don't let anyone make you feel otherwise. Best of luck getting through to SSA - persistence pays off with them.

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Thank you for mentioning the lump-sum death payment - I had no idea that might be available! $255 isn't huge but you're right that every bit helps right now. I'll make sure mom asks about that when she calls SSA. The timing advice makes a lot of sense too. Mom's been stressed about money since dad passed, so starting the benefits sooner at the reduced rate is probably the right call for her situation. Waiting for a higher amount later doesn't help if she's struggling to pay bills now. Really appreciate the encouragement about her having earned these benefits. Sometimes it feels weird claiming something from an ex-spouse, but you're absolutely right - she was married to him for 25 years and this is what the system is designed for.

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Mia Roberts

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I'm sorry for your loss, Grace. Your mom is absolutely entitled to divorced widow's benefits in this situation. The key requirements she meets are: • Marriage lasted 25+ years (well over the 10-year minimum) • She's over 60 and hasn't remarried before age 60 • Your dad's remarriage doesn't affect her eligibility at all At 62, she'll receive about 71.5% of his full benefit amount. Since her work history is limited, this will likely be much more than any retirement benefit on her own record. My suggestion: Don't wait. Call SSA immediately to schedule an appointment (phone or in-person). Benefits can be retroactive to the month of his death, but only if she applies. Documents to gather first: - Marriage certificate - Divorce decree - His death certificate - Her birth certificate - Her Social Security card The phone system is frustrating, but this is absolutely worth pursuing. Your mom contributed to his Social Security earnings during their 25-year marriage - these benefits are rightfully hers regardless of his later remarriage. Both she and his current widow can receive benefits simultaneously without reducing each other's amounts.

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Thank you so much, Mia! This is exactly the kind of clear, actionable advice we needed. It's really helpful to see the requirements laid out so clearly - it confirms what others have said but in a way that's easy to understand and reference. I'm definitely convinced now that we shouldn't wait to get this process started. Mom has been hesitant because she wasn't sure if she was "entitled" to anything since they were divorced, but seeing multiple people explain that she contributed to his earnings during those 25 years really puts it in perspective. We're going to spend this weekend gathering all those documents you listed, then start calling SSA on Monday. The retroactive benefit to the month of his death is a big motivator to not delay this any further. Really appreciate you taking the time to break this down so thoroughly - it means a lot during this difficult time.

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LunarEclipse

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Just wanted to add another perspective as someone who's helped family members navigate this - definitely get all your paperwork together early! Beyond the marriage/divorce certificates, it's also helpful to have your ex's Social Security number if you have it (from old tax returns, etc.). While SSA can usually find records without it, having the SSN can speed up the process significantly. Also, if you're still several years away from retirement, consider that your own benefit might grow substantially if you continue working. I've seen cases where people assumed the ex-spouse benefit would be higher, but their own continued earnings made their personal benefit the better choice by the time they actually retired. The my Social Security account online is really useful for tracking your projected benefits over time. One more thing - if you're planning to claim at 62 (the earliest age for divorced spouse benefits), remember that you'll face the early retirement reduction, so you won't get the full 50% of your ex's benefit. Waiting until your full retirement age gets you the unreduced amount.

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Carmen Ortiz

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This is incredibly thorough advice, thank you! I never thought about needing my ex's Social Security number - that's a great tip about checking old tax returns. I should have it somewhere from when we filed jointly. The point about my own benefit potentially growing is reassuring too since I'm planning to keep working for at least another 10-12 years. I'll definitely set up that my Social Security account to start tracking my projected benefits. Really appreciate you mentioning the early retirement reduction - I was thinking about claiming at 62 but didn't realize I wouldn't get the full 50% if I do that.

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KylieRose

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I'm in a similar boat with multiple divorces! One thing I learned from my experience is that you should also consider timing strategically if you're still working. Since you mentioned you're not planning to remarry, you have the flexibility to optimize when you claim. If you're earning good money now, it might make sense to delay claiming until your full retirement age (or even later) to avoid the earnings test and get the maximum benefit amount. Also, keep in mind that if you do decide to remarry after age 60, it won't affect your ability to claim on your first ex's record. I wish I had known all these nuances earlier - would have saved me a lot of stress! The SSA representatives are hit or miss with knowledge, so definitely do your homework beforehand.

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Yuki Watanabe

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This is really valuable insight about strategic timing! I hadn't considered how continuing to work might affect the timing of when to claim. The point about remarrying after 60 not affecting eligibility is interesting too - good to know I'd have that flexibility if circumstances change. You're absolutely right about doing homework beforehand. This whole thread has been incredibly educational and I'm realizing there are so many nuances I never would have thought to ask about. Thanks for sharing your experience with multiple divorces - it's reassuring to know others have navigated this successfully!

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StarSeeker

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This is exactly the kind of situation that makes me so frustrated with how SSA handles these cases! As others have mentioned, your mom is very likely missing out on significant money. The fact that she's only getting $875 when your dad gets $2,200 is a huge red flag. One thing I'd add to all the great advice here - when you do call SSA, try calling first thing in the morning (right at 8 AM when they open) or late in the afternoon. The wait times are usually shorter then. Also, if you get disconnected, don't start over - call back immediately and tell them you were disconnected from a previous call. Sometimes they can reconnect you faster. Make sure to get a case number for any inquiry you file about this. That way if you have to call back multiple times, each agent can see the history of what's been discussed. And definitely don't take "no" for an answer from the first person you talk to - escalate if needed. Your mom worked and paid into the system, and she deserves every penny she's entitled to. The potential back pay alone could be thousands of dollars if this has been going on for months or years. Keep us posted on how it goes!

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This is such great practical advice about timing the calls and getting case numbers! I hadn't thought about calling right when they open - that's a smart tip. You're absolutely right that we shouldn't accept the first "no" we get. The potential back pay really is significant when you think about it over months or years. I'm feeling much more confident about tackling this now with all the specific strategies everyone has shared. I'll definitely update the community once we get this sorted out - hopefully with good news about getting mom the money she deserves!

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I went through this exact situation with my parents last year! My mom was getting around $900 while dad got $2,400, and it turned out she was missing about $300/month in spousal benefits. The key thing that helped us was bringing a printed copy of dad's benefit statement to the SSA office - it showed his PIA clearly, which made it easier for the agent to calculate what mom should be getting. We ended up getting 8 months of back pay (about $2,400 total) because that's when the error started. The whole process took about 6 weeks from when we first called to when the corrected payments started. One tip: if you go to a local office instead of calling, bring both parents if possible. They seemed to process everything faster when both spouses were present to verify the marriage and benefit details. Don't give up on this - the math definitely looks wrong based on what you've shared, and that missing money really adds up over time!

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