Social Security earnings test penalty at 62 - if returned at FRA, why not claim early while working?
I've been trying to understand the strategy around claiming Social Security early while still working full-time. From what I've read, if I claim at 62 while earning above the limit ($23,000/year in 2025?), they'll withhold $1 for every $2 I earn above that threshold. But apparently this money isn't permanently lost - it gets factored back in when I reach my Full Retirement Age (67 for me). If I'm understanding correctly, let's say I claim at 62 but keep working, and 8 months of benefits get withheld due to the earnings test. When I hit FRA, my benefit would be calculated as if I'd filed at 62 years and 8 months instead of 62 flat. So I'd get a slightly higher monthly amount after FRA than if I'd just collected the reduced benefit the whole time. So what's the downside? Why wouldn't everyone just file at 62 even if still working? Am I missing something obvious here? The reduction for claiming early still applies, but if the penalty is eventually returned, it seems like a win either way? I'll appreciate any insights, especially from those who've been through this!
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Lauren Johnson
The earnings test isn't quite as simple as you're describing. When SSA withholds benefits due to excess earnings, they do recalculate your benefit at FRA to give you credit for the months you didn't receive a check. This is called the "adjustment to the reduction factor" (ARF). The downside is that you're still locking in a permanently reduced benefit compared to waiting until FRA or age 70. Let's say your FRA benefit would be $2,500/month. If you claim at 62, it's reduced by about 30% to $1,750/month. Even if some checks are withheld and you get the ARF adjustment, your base amount is still substantially reduced. Consider also: 1. Any spousal or survivor benefits based on your record will be calculated from your reduced amount 2. COLA increases will be applied to a smaller base amount for life 3. If you plan to live past your early 80s, you'll likely collect more lifetime benefits by waiting Every situation is different though. If you have health concerns or need the income regardless of potential reductions, claiming early might make sense for you.
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William Schwarz
•Thank you for explaining that so clearly. I hadn't thought about the impact on spousal benefits or how COLA would compound on a smaller amount! I'm relatively healthy and my family tends to live into their 90s, so maybe waiting is smarter in my case. Just to be sure I understand - if I work until 67 (my FRA) but claim at 62, I might not see any actual checks until 67 due to the earnings test. At that point, I'd get credit for those "lost" months, but my base amount would still be significantly lower than if I'd just waited to file at 67 in the first place. Is that right?
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Jade Santiago
ive been thru this EXACT thing. claimed at 62 cuz why not? still working full time making good $$ and guess what? didnt see a SINGLE CHECK for almost 3 years cuz of that dumb earnings test!!! when i hit my FRA they adjusted it but i still get way less than my coworker who just waited till 66 to file. dont make my mistake!!
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Caleb Stone
This is an interesting question. I think it depends on your financial situation and long-term plans. If you don't actually need the SS money right now while working, then why take the permanent reduction? The adjustment they give you later doesn't fully make up for taking benefits early. On the other hand, if you claim at 62 and then lose your job unexpectedly, you'd already be in the system and receiving benefits, which could be helpful during a transition period.
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Daniel Price
•That's really smart about already being in the system if you lose your job! I hadn't thought of that angle. I wonder if there's any strategy where you could apply, then suspend if you keep working? Is that even allowed?
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Olivia Evans
You're making a common misconception about how the adjustment works at FRA. Let me break this down with some numbers to show why waiting is usually better if you're still working: Example: Your FRA benefit would be $2,000/month at age 67. Option 1 - Claim at 62 while working: - Initial benefit: $1,400/month (30% reduction) - Due to earnings, all benefits withheld for 5 years - At FRA (67), SSA adjusts your benefit to about $1,680/month Option 2 - Wait until FRA to claim: - Benefit at 67: Full $2,000/month Option 3 - Wait until 70 to claim: - Benefit at 70: $2,480/month (24% increase) The adjustment you get isn't enough to offset the permanent early claiming reduction. Plus, there are tax implications to consider - if you're working full-time, up to 85% of your Social Security could be taxable. This is why financial advisors typically recommend waiting if you're still earning good income. The only people who benefit from your strategy are those who stop working entirely shortly after claiming.
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William Schwarz
•Thank you for the detailed example with actual numbers - that makes it MUCH clearer why waiting is better! I didn't realize the adjustment would only bring it up to $1,680 vs. the full $2,000. That's a significant lifetime difference. And I hadn't even considered the tax implications. I'm earning about $85,000 annually right now and plan to work until at least 67, so it sounds like waiting is definitely the smarter move in my situation.
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Sophia Bennett
Has anyone here actually CALLED the SSA to ask about this??? I tried for TWO WEEKS to get through to someone who could explain this to me when I was deciding when to file!!! Every time I called I'd wait on hold for 2+ hours only to get disconnected!!! SO FRUSTRATING!!! Their website doesn't explain this stuff clearly AT ALL and the calculators don't account for the earnings test adjustment thing everyone's talking about!!!!
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Aiden Chen
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Daniel Price
My husband just went thru this. He filed at 62 but kept working. His checks kept getting reduced cuz of the earnings test. By the time he reached FRA last year they did adjust his benefit but he's still getting way less than if he'd just waited. We did the math and he'd have to live to 89 to break even by claiming early. The lesson for us was if ur gonna keep working full time past 62 just wait to file!!
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Caleb Stone
The other thing to consider is spousal benefits. If your spouse might claim on your record someday, filing early permanently reduces what THEY can get too. My wife gets 50% of my benefit as a spouse, so me filing early would have hurt both of us for life.
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Jade Santiago
wait i just realized something else - if ur earning enough to trigger the earnings test u probably don't even NEED the SS money right now?? so why take the permanent hit?? just wait and get the bigger check later!!
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William Schwarz
•That's a really good point! Since I'm able to support myself with my current income, there's really no rush to claim early. I was just trying to be clever about optimizing, but it sounds like in my case, patience will actually pay off better.
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Lauren Johnson
One strategy some people use is to file at 62 if they anticipate working less in the coming years. For example, if you're planning to go part-time at 63, it might make sense to file at 62, have some benefits withheld the first year, then start collecting when your income drops below the threshold. This works best if: 1. You're planning to reduce work hours soon after 62 2. You want to retire before FRA but after 62 3. Your life expectancy is uncertain due to health concerns Just remember the reduction is permanent - the adjustment at FRA only accounts for months benefits were completely withheld, not the early claiming reduction itself.
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Olivia Evans
Another important consideration is tax efficiency in retirement planning. If you're still working full-time at a good salary, adding Social Security income could push you into a higher tax bracket. Up to 85% of your Social Security benefits become taxable when your combined income exceeds certain thresholds. For 2025, if your combined income (adjusted gross income + nontaxable interest + half of SS benefits) exceeds $34,000 (single) or $44,000 (married filing jointly), 85% of your benefits are subject to income tax. So claiming early while working could not only reduce your lifetime benefit but also result in higher taxes during those working years compared to waiting until you've stopped working or reduced your hours.
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William Schwarz
•The tax angle is something I hadn't considered at all! Since I'm making $85K now, adding Social Security on top would definitely push me into that 85% taxable range. So I'd essentially be taking a reduced benefit AND paying more taxes on it. Waiting is sounding better and better. Thanks everyone for helping me understand this. I was focused on that earnings test adjustment without seeing the bigger picture. I think I'll definitely wait until at least my FRA before filing.
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