Does filing at FRA vs 70 really matter if I keep working and replace lower earnings years?
I've been researching my Social Security options and I'm conflicted. Everyone talks about the 8% annual increase for delaying past Full Retirement Age, but I'm wondering about a strategy that seems less discussed. What if I start collecting at my FRA (67) but continue working until 70, replacing lower earning years in my calculation? My situation: I had several years in my work history around $40k, but now I'm earning about $80k annually. My estimated benefit at FRA is approximately $2,000/month. If I keep working those 3 years between 67-70 while collecting benefits, my total income would be over $100k yearly (salary plus SS). Am I really losing that much compared to waiting until 70? Wouldn't the breakeven point be pushed out significantly if I'm simultaneously collecting benefits AND improving my overall benefit calculation by replacing those $40k years with $80k years? I can't find clear answers on this specific scenario. Would appreciate insights from anyone who understands how the SSA calculates this kind of situation!
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Yuki Sato
This is actually a great question that many people overlook. The 8% delayed retirement credits are valuable, but you're right to consider the earnings record improvements too. Here's how it works: 1. If you claim at FRA (67), you'll get your full benefit amount with no reduction. 2. For every year you delay past FRA up to age 70, you get an 8% increase (about 24% total) if you wait the full 3 years. 3. Working while collecting doesn't create any benefit reduction after FRA. 4. Replacing lower earnings years can indeed increase your Primary Insurance Amount (PIA), but the impact varies based on your specific earnings history. The catch: The recalculation for additional earnings typically adds 0.5% to 1% per year to your benefit amount - significantly less than the guaranteed 8% for delaying. SSA automatically recalculates annually once you work while receiving benefits.
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Ethan Wilson
•Thanks, that helps. So the earnings replacement might give me a 0.5-1% increase each year instead of the 8% for delaying? That's a bigger difference than I expected. But I'd still be collecting for those 3 years which could take a long time to "make up" if I'd waited until 70, right?
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Carmen Flores
I tried this EXACT strategy last year! Started my benefits at 67 (my FRA) while still working at my highest salary ever. After a full year of working, my benefit only went up by $27/month from the recalculation. The 8% per year increase would have been about $160/month more if I'd just waited. Big mistake on my part honestly... the break-even point isn't pushed out nearly as much as I thought it would be.
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Andre Dubois
•wait so you lost money doing this?? i thought working while collecting was always good after FRA??
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Carmen Flores
•Not exactly "lost" money - I got my benefits for that year which was nice. But the increase to my permanent benefit amount was tiny compared to what I would've gotten by just waiting. If I live past 82-83, I'll have less total money than if I'd waited to 70.
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CyberSamurai
Its not as simple as everyone makes it sound. The 35-year calculation means each new high-earning year only replaces ONE low year out of 35, so the math impact is diluted. And your $40k years might not even be in your lowest 35 depending on your work history. The REAL question is life expectancy + immediate cash needs. If you need $ now or have health concerns, take it at FRA. If you're healthy with family longevity and don't need immediate $, waiting to 70 almost always wins mathematically in the long run.
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Ethan Wilson
•This is really helpful context. I actually do have several years under $30k in my early career, so replacing those would help somewhat. But you're right that it's just 3 years out of 35 in the calculation. I'm in good health with longevity in my family... might need to reconsider my strategy.
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Zoe Alexopoulos
My sister did this but with a twist - she retired completely at 66 but then went back to work part time at 68 just for supplemental income. SS never told her they were recalculating anything!! She had no idea until she checked her statement online and saw a $43 increase. Better than nothing I guess lol
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Jamal Carter
Something no one has mentioned yet - if you're married, delaying until 70 also increases the potential survivor benefit for your spouse. That's a huge factor! If your spouse might outlive you and would get higher benefits on your record than their own, those extra 3 years of delay could provide them with significantly more income for potentially many years. I've been trying to figure this out for my own situation, and I was getting nowhere trying to call Social Security - constant busy signals, disconnects, and 2+ hour holds. I finally tried a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to a real agent in about 20 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU The agent I spoke with ran some calculations specifically for my situation with replacing lower earning years, and in my case, the 8% per year increase from delaying was significantly better than the smaller increases from replacing my lower earning years.
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Ethan Wilson
•I am married, and my wife's benefit will be lower than mine, so that's definitely something to consider. I hadn't thought about the survivor benefit angle. Thanks for sharing that resource too - I'll check it out because I've been wanting to get someone at SSA to run my specific numbers.
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Mei Liu
•Is that service legit? I've been trying to get through to SSA for weeks about my application status!
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Jamal Carter
•Yes, it's legitimate. They basically navigate the phone system for you and call you when they have an agent on the line. Saved me hours of frustration. Definitely helped me understand my specific benefit calculation with continued work.
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Andre Dubois
Why not just do BOTH?? Apply for benefits at FRA, suspend them immediately, then work 3 more years and unsuspend at 70. You still get the 8% increases while working and replacing low years AND can file a restricted application for spouse benefits if your married!
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Yuki Sato
•This contains some misinformation. The "file and suspend" strategy was eliminated by the Bipartisan Budget Act of 2015, and restricted applications are only available to people born before January 2, 1954. Neither of these strategies is available to someone reaching FRA now in 2025. The choice is simply: claim benefits now or delay for the 8% per year increase.
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Andre Dubois
•oh dang, i didnt know they changed that! my uncle did that a while back so i thought it still worked. my bad!
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Carmen Flores
ALSO!!! Think about taxes! If you're working AND collecting SS, more of your SS benefits will be taxable. Up to 85% of your benefits could be subject to income tax if your combined income is high enough. This is something I didn't calculate properly when I made my decision.
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Ethan Wilson
•That's a really good point about taxes. With a $80k salary plus $2k/month in benefits, I'd definitely have more of my SS benefits subject to taxation. That reduces the effective value of collecting early while working.
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Mei Liu
I HATE these complicated SS rules!!! Ive been trying to figure out my best option for months and every time I think I understand, I learn something new that changes everything. Why cant they make this SIMPLE????? I thought I was being smart by working while collecting but now im not sure!!!!!
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CyberSamurai
•It's definitely confusing! The system wasn't designed with all these strategies in mind. When in doubt, the simplest approach is usually best - if you don't need the money at FRA and expect to live past about 82-83, waiting until 70 typically gives you more lifetime benefits despite missing those 3 years of payments.
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Yuki Sato
To summarize what everyone's discussing: 1. The 8% per year delayed retirement credits (DRCs) almost always outweigh the small benefit increase from replacing lower earning years 2. Each additional high-earning year only replaces 1/35th of your calculation, so the impact is much smaller than the guaranteed 8% increase 3. If you claim at FRA while working, more of your SS benefits may be taxable 4. Survivor benefits for your spouse are increased by delaying The math usually favors waiting until 70 if you don't need the money immediately and have average or better life expectancy. The breakeven point is typically around age 82-83.
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Ethan Wilson
•This is an excellent summary. After all this discussion, I'm leaning toward waiting until 70 now. The guaranteed 8% per year increase plus the enhanced survivor benefit for my wife seems to outweigh the immediate cash flow advantage of claiming at FRA. Thanks everyone for your insights!
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