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I recently found out that you can claim benefits based on an ex-spouse's Social Security record, and I'm trying to figure out if I qualify. I'm 59 years old and my ex-husband is 70. We were married for 22 years before divorcing about 8 years ago. He's already collecting his retirement benefits (I think he started at his full retirement age). Can I start claiming ex-spousal benefits now at 59, or do I have to wait until I'm a certain age? I haven't remarried and I'm still working part-time, but honestly could really use the extra income. My own Social Security benefits would be much lower than his because I took a lot of years off to raise our kids. I tried calling the SSA office but got disconnected twice and then gave up. Any advice would be appreciated!
Just wanted to share a win with this group that might help others in my situation. I'm 63 and started my own SS retirement benefits about 6 months ago. My ex-husband (we were married 22 years but remained close after divorce) passed away unexpectedly in February. I initially thought I'd have to wait until my full retirement age (66 years, 8 months) to claim survivor benefits without penalties. But then I remembered reading about some exceptions here.I scheduled an appointment at my local SSA office and mentioned the RIB/LIM rule. The agent wasn't familiar with it at first (had to consult with a supervisor), but it turns out I CAN switch to the higher survivor benefit NOW without any reduction penalty! Because I had already claimed my own retirement benefit first, the RIB/LIM rule applies in my case.This means I'll receive almost $1,250 more per month starting immediately rather than waiting 3+ years. That's over $45,000 I would have left on the table if I hadn't learned about this from you all.So grateful for the knowledge shared in this group. The Social Security rules are so complex, and even some SSA agents aren't familiar with all the exceptions. Has anyone else had success with the RIB/LIM rule or other lesser-known provisions?
I don't think I can pay back everything! Ugh, I should have researched more before filing. I just assumed taking it at 62 was best because I needed the money then. Nobody told me about all these exceptions and special rules!
This is such valuable information! As someone new to navigating Social Security, I had no idea about the RIB/LIM rule. It's incredible that you were able to increase your monthly benefit by $1,250 just by knowing to ask about this specific provision. I'm wondering - for those of us who might face similar situations in the future, are there any resources you'd recommend for learning about these lesser-known rules? It sounds like even the SSA agents aren't always familiar with them, so it seems like we need to educate ourselves to be effective advocates. Also, congratulations on your successful claim! It must be such a relief to have that financial security, especially during what I'm sure is already a difficult time dealing with your loss.
I've spent 3 months trying to collect over $23,000 in back alimony payments through garnishing my ex-spouse's Social Security benefits. I finally got a court judgment allowing this garnishment, but now I'm completely stuck in a bureaucratic nightmare! When I took the garnishment order to my local Social Security office, they told me I can't submit it myself - only the court can submit it directly to SSA. So I went back to the judge's office and they claimed they've "never done this before" and don't know how to submit it. Their exact words: "We have written the order so we are done here." I feel like I'm in an impossible situation. Social Security won't accept it from me, and the court refuses to submit it themselves. I've called the SSA helpline twice but couldn't get any information about where exactly the court needs to send this order. Has anyone successfully garnished an ex-spouse's Social Security benefits for alimony? How did you navigate this process? Which specific SSA department handles these garnishment orders? I'm desperate for some practical guidance here.
I'm dealing with a similar situation right now and this thread has been incredibly helpful! Just wanted to add that when you do get the proper "Income Withholding Order for Support" submitted to SSA, make sure you keep copies of EVERYTHING - the certified order, the tracking receipt from when it was mailed, and any correspondence. My attorney told me that SSA sometimes "loses" paperwork and having complete documentation saved me from having to restart the entire process. Also, once they do start the garnishment, they'll send you a notice confirming the amount and start date - keep that safe too because it takes forever to get replacements if you lose it. The whole system is frustrating but it does eventually work. Hang in there!
I just went through this exact nightmare last month and finally got it resolved! Here's what worked for me after weeks of runaround: 1. Print out SSA Program Operations Manual Section GN 02410.200 which specifically covers garnishment procedures for alimony/child support 2. Bring Form SSA-1990 (Income Withholding for Support) - get it from ssa.gov 3. Make sure your court order specifically cites "Section 459 of the Social Security Act" and uses the exact phrase "Income Withholding Order for Support" 4. The court MUST mail it to: SSA Office of Central Operations, Court Order Garnishment Unit, P.O. Box 2861, Baltimore, MD 21241 I had to go to the clerk's office THREE times with printed documentation before they finally sent it properly. Once SSA received the correct paperwork, it took about 6 weeks to process and the garnishment started. Don't let them tell you "we don't do this" - show them the federal requirements and stand your ground! The whole process is incredibly frustrating but you're legally entitled to this garnishment. Keep pushing!
This is exactly the comprehensive guide I needed! I've been struggling with this for months and you've laid out the exact steps with all the specific forms and citations. I'm especially glad you mentioned having to go back three times - that helps me prepare mentally for the persistence this is going to require. I'm printing out that SSA Program Operations Manual section right now along with Form SSA-1990. Your timeline of 6 weeks after proper submission is really helpful for setting expectations too. Thank you so much for taking the time to share the exact process that worked for you - this gives me real hope that I can finally get this resolved!
I'm completely stressed about filing taxes this year because of our new Social Security situation. In November, I became the representative payee for my 25-year-old son who has a cognitive disability from a traumatic brain injury. I receive two separate deposits each month - one payment that's designated as my caregiver benefit (about $560) and another larger payment (around $1,250) that comes with my name "FOR" my son's name since he can't manage his finances. I've never dealt with this before and tax season is approaching fast. Do I need to report both payments as income on my taxes? Or just the caregiver benefit that's actually intended for me? Is his payment completely exempt? The SSA pamphlet they gave me was so confusing, and I'm terrified of making a mistake that could affect both our benefits!
To address your latest question - yes, using your son's benefits for his food, clothing, portion of utilities and medical expenses is appropriate. You can also use it for his recreation, education, and personal items. Just document everything. As for the Representative Payee Report (Form SSA-623), the SSA will mail this to you annually. You'll report how much of his benefits you saved and how much you spent on different categories. Keep all bank statements and major receipts for at least 2 years in case of an audit. I recommend creating a simple spreadsheet with categories like: - Housing (his portion of rent/mortgage) - Food - Utilities (his portion) - Medical expenses - Clothing - Personal items - Recreation/entertainment - Education - Savings This makes completing the annual form much easier.
I'm going through something similar as a new representative payee for my disabled adult child. One thing I learned from my local SSA office is that you should also notify them immediately if there are any changes in your son's living situation, medical condition, or if he starts receiving any other income (like part-time work). They need to know about these changes because it can affect his benefit amount. Also, if you ever need to make large purchases for him (like a wheelchair, computer for communication, etc.), it's good to keep detailed documentation showing how it directly benefits him. The SSA rep told me they're more concerned about making sure the funds are used appropriately than they are about small receipt details, but major purchases should be well-documented.
This whole thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm feeling much more confident about handling the tax situation and representative payee responsibilities now. Just to summarize what I've learned: 1) Only report MY caregiver benefit as income on taxes, not the funds I manage for my son, 2) Keep detailed records and create that spreadsheet with categories, 3) Wait for the SSA-1099 and annual Rep Payee Report form, and 4) Document any major purchases or changes in his situation. Thank you everyone for sharing your experiences - it's made such a stressful situation much more manageable! I'll definitely look into that Claimyr service too if I need to speak with SSA directly.
This is all incredibly helpful information! As someone new to being a representative payee, I really appreciate everyone breaking down both the tax implications and the record-keeping requirements. @449a361a20d4 your point about using a simple formula for household expenses makes a lot of sense - I was overthinking how to calculate his "fair share" of utilities and groceries. I think I'll start with dividing by household members and adjust if needed. It's reassuring to know that most adaptive equipment purchases don't need pre-approval as long as they're well-documented. I feel much more confident about managing this responsibility properly now!
I'm trying to plan my retirement and figure out how much I'll get from Social Security. I've worked consistently for 38 years making decent money (usually over the maximum taxable amount). What's the highest possible monthly payment I could get if I wait until my Full Retirement Age to claim? I'm turning 66 and 8 months next year. Most articles online mention different maximum amounts and I'm getting confused. Anyone know the actual maximum benefit amount for 2025 if claiming at FRA?
As someone new to understanding Social Security benefits, this discussion has been really eye-opening! I'm 28 and just starting to think seriously about retirement planning. It sounds like the maximum benefit of $3,822/month at FRA (or $4,740 if you wait until 70) is more theoretical than practical for most people. From what I'm gathering, the key factors are: 1) having high earnings for 35 years straight, 2) timing when you claim, and 3) understanding that even small gaps in earnings can significantly impact your benefit. For those of us earlier in our careers, it seems like the takeaway is to maximize our earnings when possible and maybe consider working a few extra years if we had lower-earning periods earlier on. Thanks everyone for sharing your real-world experiences - it's much more helpful than the generic information you find online!
I really appreciate everyone sharing their real experiences here! As someone who's 45 and finally getting serious about retirement planning, this thread has been incredibly helpful. I've been putting off looking into my Social Security benefits because the whole system seemed so confusing, but reading through everyone's comments has motivated me to actually dig in. It sounds like I should set realistic expectations - I've had a decent career in tech but definitely had some lean years early on when I was freelancing. Based on what others have shared, I'm probably looking at something well below that theoretical maximum, but that's okay as long as I know what to expect. One question for those who've already gone through this process: how far in advance should I start seriously planning the timing of when to claim? I know there's the trade-off between claiming early vs. waiting, but is there an optimal time to start running those calculations?
Great question about timing! I'd suggest starting to run those calculations seriously around age 55-57, but definitely begin getting familiar with your benefits earlier. That gives you enough time to really understand your options without feeling rushed into a decision. The key is getting your actual benefit estimate from ssa.gov first - don't rely on generic calculators or rough estimates. Once you have your real numbers, you can use the SSA's online calculators to compare claiming at 62, FRA, and 70. The "break-even" analysis usually shows that if you expect to live into your 80s, delaying can pay off significantly. Also consider your overall financial picture - if you have good savings and can afford to delay, the 8% annual increase from waiting until 70 is hard to beat. But if you need the income or have health concerns, claiming earlier might make more sense. There's no one-size-fits-all answer, which is why starting the analysis early gives you time to really think it through without pressure.
Lydia Santiago
One last thing to consider: if your ex-spouse passes away before you claim benefits, the rules change. As a surviving divorced spouse, you could claim survivor benefits as early as age 60 (or 50 if disabled). Survivor benefits are different from ex-spousal benefits. Not something to hope for, of course, but important to know in case that situation arises.
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Hugh Intensity
AuthorI didn't know there was a different set of rules if he passes away. That's good information to have, though hopefully not something I'll need to deal with. This whole Social Security system is so complicated!
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Sean Flanagan
I just went through this exact process last year! I was 61 when I started researching and had to wait until 62 just like you. One tip that really helped me: about 3-4 months before your 62nd birthday, you can actually start the application process. Don't wait until the day you turn 62 because processing can take time. Also, since you mentioned struggling financially, look into whether your state has a Senior Community Service Employment Program (SCSEP). It's specifically for people 55+ with lower incomes and can provide part-time work and training while you're waiting to be eligible for benefits. I found it through my local Area Agency on Aging and it really helped bridge the gap. The waiting is hard, but you're so close! Just two and a half more years and you'll have that extra financial security.
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