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Abigail Spencer

Social Security earnings limit - does income count from January 1 or from when benefits start?

I'm planning to start my Social Security retirement benefits on April 1, 2025, but will continue working part-time the rest of the year. I know there's an annual earnings limit of $23,400 (for those under FRA) before they start reducing benefits, but I'm confused about WHEN they start counting my income. Does the SSA count my earnings from January 1, 2025 (even though I wasn't receiving benefits yet)? Or do they only start counting from April 1 when my benefits begin? Or is it from when I receive my first actual payment? I earned about $7,800 from January-March, and want to make sure I don't accidentally go over the limit for the rest of the year. This is really important for my budget planning! Thank you for any help!

Logan Chiang

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SSA counts ALL of your earnings for the entire calendar year, regardless of when you start benefits. So yes, your $7,800 from January-March will count toward the $23,400 annual limit even though you weren't receiving benefits then. The only exception is the year you reach Full Retirement Age - then they only count earnings in the months before your FRA month. But since you didn't mention being close to FRA, I'm assuming the regular rules apply to you.

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Thank you for the clear answer! That's what I was afraid of... so I only have about $15,600 left that I can earn for the rest of the year without affecting my benefits. Do you know if they reduce benefits $1 for every $2 over the limit right away, or do they wait until the end of the year to calculate everything?

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Isla Fischer

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my sister started ss last yr and they counted ALL her income from january even tho she didnt start bennefits til june. its super annoying but thats how they do it. u might wanna wait til january 2026 to start if ur already made 7800 this yr, just saying

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That's really helpful to know about your sister's experience. Unfortunately, I can't really wait until 2026 to start benefits - I need the income now. I'll just have to be careful with my work hours for the rest of the year.

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I think the previous responses might be confusing you. It's important to understand exactly how the earnings test works: 1. SSA counts earnings in the ENTIRE calendar year, regardless of when you start benefits 2. For your first year on benefits, they do provide a monthly earnings test OPTION (different from the special rule in the year you reach FRA) 3. Under this monthly option, you can receive full benefits for any month your earnings are under $1,950 (1/12 of the annual limit) AND you didn't perform substantial services in self-employment You might want to call SSA directly to discuss your particular situation and options, but be prepared to wait on hold for hours.

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Ruby Blake

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OMG when I tried calling SSA last month I was on hold for 3 HOURS and then got disconnected!!! Never again. So frustrating!!

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I actually found a service called Claimyr that gets you through to SSA agents without the ridiculous wait time. It actually worked for me when I had questions about my survivor benefits calculation. You can check it out at claimyr.com - they have a video showing how it works here: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU This would definitely be a case where talking directly to an SSA rep is worth it, since the earnings test rules can get complicated with the monthly vs. annual options.

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Thank you for sharing that resource! I'll definitely check it out - talking to an actual SSA representative would be really helpful right now. The monthly earnings test option sounds promising, and I need to make sure I understand all my options.

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Ella Harper

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Wait a minute guys I thought SS was 19,650?? where are you getting 23,400 from? did it change this year??

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Yes, the earnings limit is adjusted annually for inflation. For 2025, the limit is $23,400 for those under Full Retirement Age. It was $19,560 in 2023, then went up to $21,240 in 2024, and now $23,400 for 2025. These COLA increases happen every year.

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PrinceJoe

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I HAD THE EXACT SAME SITUATION LAST YEAR!!! The whole system is ridiculous. They take our money our whole lives then make us jump through hoops to get it back. I ended up having to pay back $3,760 because I went over the limit by $7,520. They didn't even TELL ME until after the year was over and by then it was TOO LATE to do anything about it!! Just be SUPER careful about tracking your income!

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Oh no, that sounds awful! I definitely don't want to end up with an overpayment situation. I'll be tracking my income very carefully each month.

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Logan Chiang

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To answer your follow-up question - SSA typically doesn't reduce your benefits immediately when you go over the earnings limit. What usually happens is: 1. When you apply for benefits, they ask about your expected earnings for the year 2. If you expect to exceed the limit, they may withhold some benefits preemptively 3. After the year ends, they receive your actual earnings from IRS 4. Then they make adjustments - either sending you additional benefits if they withheld too much, or creating an overpayment if they didn't withhold enough However, you should report to SSA if your earnings will be different than what you initially told them. This helps avoid surprises later.

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Thank you for the detailed explanation! That makes sense. When I initially apply, I'll make sure to tell them exactly what I've already earned and what I expect to earn for the rest of the year. I definitely want to avoid any overpayment situations.

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Ruby Blake

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sooo wait... does this mean they count ALL income or just wages? like what if i sell some stuff online or rent out a room in my house? does that count toward the 23,400? im so confused by all these rules!

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Great question. The earnings test only counts EARNED income - wages from a job or net earnings from self-employment. It does NOT count unearned income like investments, interest, pensions, rental income, or selling personal items. So renting a room wouldn't count, but if you started a business that would count as self-employment income.

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Isla Fischer

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i remember my uncle had to deal with this when he retired he told me its always better to just wait til FRA then u dont have to worry about any earninsg limit at all. but i get it if u need the money now, just be super careful cuz SS doesnt mess around with overpayments!!

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Xan Dae

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Just wanted to add something that might help with your planning - you can actually request that SSA withhold additional benefits throughout the year if you know you're going to exceed the earnings limit. This way you avoid the overpayment situation that others mentioned. When you file your application, there's a form (SSA-777) where you can estimate your yearly earnings and request voluntary withholding. This is especially useful in your situation since you already know you've earned $7,800 and plan to keep working. It's much easier to deal with this upfront than to get surprised with an overpayment notice later! Also, keep detailed records of all your earnings - pay stubs, 1099s, everything. SSA will eventually match your reported earnings with what they receive from IRS, so having your own records helps if there are any discrepancies.

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GalaxyGazer

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This is incredibly helpful information! I had no idea about the SSA-777 form for voluntary withholding - that sounds like exactly what I need to avoid any surprises. Since I already know I've earned $7,800 and will continue working, being proactive about this makes so much sense. Thank you for mentioning the detailed record-keeping too - I'll make sure to save everything. This gives me much more confidence about moving forward with my April start date!

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Ella Russell

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One thing I'd add is that you should also be aware of the "first year rule" or monthly earnings test that was mentioned earlier. In your first year of receiving benefits, you have the option to use either the annual earnings test OR the monthly earnings test - whichever is more favorable to you. Since you're starting benefits in April and already earned $7,800 from January-March, the monthly test might actually work better for you. Under the monthly test, you can receive full benefits for any month where your earnings are $1,950 or less (regardless of your total annual earnings). So if you can keep your monthly earnings under $1,950 from April onward, you might be able to receive full benefits even if your total annual earnings exceed $23,400. This is definitely something to discuss when you apply - make sure the SSA representative explains both options so you can choose the one that works best for your situation!

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Sophia Nguyen

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This is exactly the kind of detailed information I was hoping to find! The monthly earnings test option sounds like it could be a game-changer for my situation. If I can keep my monthly earnings under $1,950 from April onward, that would give me so much more flexibility than trying to stay under the annual limit with my January-March earnings already factored in. I'm definitely going to ask about both options when I apply and make sure I understand which one would work better for my specific circumstances. Thank you for explaining this so clearly!

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Dmitry Volkov

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Just wanted to share my experience as someone who went through this exact situation two years ago! I started my benefits in March and had already earned about $6,000 in January and February. What I learned (the hard way) is that SSA gives you a worksheet when you apply where you report ALL your expected earnings for the year - including what you've already made. They use this to calculate how much to withhold from your monthly benefits. The key is to be as accurate as possible with your projections. In my case, I underestimated my year-end earnings and ended up with a small overpayment that I had to pay back. But SSA was actually pretty reasonable about setting up a payment plan when I called them. One tip: if your income varies month to month (like mine did with part-time work), consider the monthly earnings test option others mentioned. It can be a lifesaver if you have some months where you earn very little but others where you might go over the monthly limit. Good luck with your application process!

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Mei Lin

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Thank you for sharing your real experience with this! It's really helpful to hear from someone who actually went through the same situation. The worksheet you mentioned sounds important - I'll make sure to be as accurate as possible with my earnings projections when I fill it out. It's reassuring to know that SSA was reasonable about setting up a payment plan when you had the overpayment, though I definitely want to avoid that if possible. Your tip about considering the monthly earnings test for variable income is great too - my part-time hours do fluctuate quite a bit from month to month, so that option might really work in my favor. Thanks for the encouragement about the application process!

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QuantumLeap

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As a newcomer to this community, I just wanted to say how incredibly helpful this entire thread has been! I'm in a similar situation where I'm considering starting benefits mid-year while continuing to work, and reading through all these detailed explanations has really clarified the earnings limit rules for me. The information about the monthly earnings test option for the first year is particularly valuable - I had no idea that was even available. It sounds like it could make a huge difference for people like us who start benefits partway through the year with existing earnings. I'm also grateful for the practical tips about the SSA-777 form for voluntary withholding and keeping detailed records. These are the kinds of real-world insights you don't always find in the official SSA publications. Thank you to everyone who shared their experiences and knowledge. This community is such a great resource for navigating these complex Social Security rules!

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Omar Hassan

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Welcome to the community! I'm also relatively new here and have been amazed at how knowledgeable and helpful everyone is. This thread really opened my eyes to how complex the Social Security earnings rules can be - I had no idea about things like the monthly earnings test option or the voluntary withholding form either. It's so valuable to have real people sharing their actual experiences alongside the technical explanations. Good luck with your decision about when to start benefits - sounds like you've got some great information to work with now!

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PixelWarrior

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As someone who just recently navigated this exact situation, I wanted to add one more important point that hasn't been mentioned yet - make sure you understand how they calculate "earnings" versus "income." For W-2 employees like most part-time workers, they count your gross wages (before taxes and deductions). But if you have any self-employment income, they count your NET self-employment earnings after business expenses. This distinction can be really important for your calculations. Also, timing matters for when earnings are "counted." Generally, SSA counts earnings when you perform the work, not when you're paid. So if you work in December 2025 but get paid in January 2026, those earnings count toward your 2025 limit. One last tip: if you're close to the limit later in the year, you might consider asking your employer to defer some income to the next year if possible (like a year-end bonus). Just make sure any arrangement complies with tax laws and your employer's policies. The monthly earnings test really can be a lifesaver in situations like yours where you've already earned money before starting benefits!

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This is such valuable additional information! The distinction between gross wages for W-2 employees versus net earnings for self-employment is really important - I wouldn't have thought about that difference. And the timing aspect about when earnings are "counted" (when work is performed vs. when paid) is crucial for year-end planning. Your suggestion about potentially deferring income like bonuses is brilliant too - that could really help someone who finds themselves getting close to the limit in December. Thank you for adding these practical details that could make a real difference in how people plan their earnings throughout the year!

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