Social Security earnings limit confusion - do January wages count when I started benefits in March?
I'm really stressed about the Social Security earnings limit for 2025. I officially filed for early retirement benefits in December 2024, and my payments started in February 2025. Here's my situation: I worked my final month as a full-time employee in January 2025 and earned about $7,800 before leaving. I've since started a small consulting business that might bring in some income this year, but I'm trying to stay under the annual earnings limit. Do I need to count those January wages toward my 2025 earnings limit even though I wasn't receiving benefits yet? And if I accidentally go over the limit, should I proactively contact SSA or wait for them to notify me? I know the 2025 limit is $22,320 for those under FRA, but I'm confused about when they actually start counting the earnings. Thanks for any guidance!
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Zara Shah
They only count the money u earn in months AFTER you start getting benefits. So if your first check came in February, only count income from February onward for the annual limit. January earnings don't count!!!!
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Sean Flanagan
•Thank you! That's a relief if January doesn't count. Do you know if I should be tracking this myself or does SSA automatically know how much I'm earning?
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NebulaNomad
The previous response isn't completely accurate. What matters is when you're ENTITLED to benefits, not when you first receive them. If your entitlement date was February (meaning your first check covered February but arrived in March), then January earnings don't count toward the limit. But if your entitlement date was January, then those earnings would count even if you didn't receive payment until February or March. As for self-employment income, SSA counts it when you receive it, not when you earn it. And yes, you should notify SSA if you expect to exceed the limit rather than waiting for them to discover it - they'll appreciate the proactive communication and it can prevent overpayments.
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Luca Ferrari
•This happened to ME last year! My first check was for March but they said I was "entitled" starting in February, so all my February earnings counted!! I was so mad because nobody explained this clearly when I applied 😡
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Nia Wilson
Im confused about something... doesn't the month you turn your FRA (full retirement age) change everything? My sister said once you hit that month in your FRA year the earnings limit goes away completely, not just gets higher. But does that mean for the whole year or just from that month forward?? Anyone know?
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NebulaNomad
•You're mixing up two different concepts. In the year you reach FRA, there's a higher earnings limit ($59,520 for 2025) that applies only for months BEFORE your FRA month. Once you reach your FRA month, there's no earnings limit at all for that month and beyond. For the original poster, it sounds like they're well under FRA, so they need to stay under the lower annual limit ($22,320 for 2025) for any months they're entitled to benefits.
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Mateo Martinez
To add some clarity: SSA follows a specific process for the earnings test. 1. For wages: They count earnings when they're earned, not paid 2. For self-employment: They count when received, not earned 3. For the monthly test: Only applies in your first year of retirement In your first year claiming benefits, you're subject to the monthly earnings test. This means if you earn over $1,860/month (in 2025) in any month you're entitled to benefits, you don't get benefits for that month. After your first year, they switch to the annual test. If you do exceed the limit, SSA will withhold $1 in benefits for every $2 you earn above the limit. And yes, you should definitely report expected changes to your earnings - it prevents hassles later.
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Sean Flanagan
•This is really helpful, thank you! I think I qualify for the monthly test since this is my first year. So to be clear, my January 2025 earnings won't count at all if my first entitlement month was February 2025, right?
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Luca Ferrari
Has anyone else noticed how IMPOSSIBLE it is to get through to SS on the phone to ask these kinds of questions??!! I spent 3 HOURS on hold last week trying to get an answer about my earnings limit and then got disconnected!!! Then tried again and was told the wait was over 2 hours!!! This system is completely BROKEN! How are we supposed to follow the rules when we can't even talk to someone to understand what they are???!!!
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Aisha Hussain
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Luca Ferrari
•Omg thank you! Im going to try this tomorrow because Im DONE with waiting on hold for hours just to get disconnected!
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Ethan Clark
my brother in law had this same problem last yr. he went over by like $4k and they made him pay back some benefits the next yr. but they didn't charge intrest or anything. its not a huge deal if u go over a little, they just adjust things later
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Sean Flanagan
•That's good to know it's not too complicated if I accidentally go over. Did your brother-in-law have to fill out any special forms or did SSA just automatically adjust things?
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NebulaNomad
To respond to your follow-up question - yes, if your first entitlement month was February 2025, then January 2025 earnings don't count toward your limit. Regarding tracking, while SSA does receive wage reports from employers and self-employment income from tax returns, there's often a significant lag. I recommend keeping your own records and if you expect to exceed the limit, contact SSA proactively. You can submit an earnings estimate for the year by calling them or visiting your local office. Also worth noting - even if benefits are withheld due to excess earnings, you'll get credit for those months later. When you reach FRA, SSA will recalculate your benefit amount to account for months when benefits were withheld.
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Sean Flanagan
•Thank you so much for this detailed explanation! I'll definitely keep track of my earnings carefully and reach out to SSA if I think I'll get close to the limit.
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Nia Wilson
Wait a minute... I thought there was a special rule for your first year on benefits? Something about a grace period or monthly limits instead of annual? Can someone clarify this please?
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Mateo Martinez
•You're absolutely right. In your first year receiving retirement benefits, SSA applies a monthly earnings test rather than the annual test. So even if you earn more than the annual limit ($22,320 for 2025) in your first year, you can still receive benefits for any month you earn less than the monthly limit ($1,860 in 2025) AND don't perform substantial services in self-employment. This is specifically designed for mid-year retirees like the original poster. After the first year, SSA switches to the annual test.
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