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Just wanted to add one more important detail that might affect your planning - if you're still working when you become eligible for survivor benefits, the earnings test still applies. If you're under your full retirement age and earning above certain limits ($22,320 for 2024), your survivor benefits could be temporarily reduced. This is different from delayed retirement credits - you don't get those extra credits for waiting past your survivor FRA like you do with your own retirement benefits. Also, survivor benefits are generally not taxable if they're your only income, but if you have other income sources, up to 85% could be taxable depending on your total income level. Worth factoring into your financial planning since you mentioned you're still several years from retirement.

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This is really helpful information about the earnings test! I hadn't considered that factor since we're both still working and plan to continue for several more years. The tax implications are also something I need to research more. Since my husband's benefit would be $2,800 and mine $1,650, we'll definitely have other income sources in retirement, so the taxation aspect could be significant. Thank you for mentioning these details - it's clear there are many more factors to consider than I initially realized when planning for potential survivor benefits.

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet - make sure you understand the difference between survivor Full Retirement Age and regular Full Retirement Age. For survivor benefits, your FRA might be different than for your own retirement benefits. For example, if you were born in 1966, your regular FRA is 67, but your survivor FRA might be 66 and 8 months. Also, there's a "widow(er) limit" that caps your survivor benefit. Even if you wait until your survivor FRA, you won't necessarily get 100% of what your husband was entitled to at his FRA - you get the higher of: what he was actually receiving when he died, OR 82.5% of his full benefit amount. This mainly comes into play if he had delayed his benefits past his own FRA to get delayed retirement credits. I'd strongly recommend scheduling an appointment with your local SSA office while you're both still healthy to get personalized projections for different scenarios. They can run the numbers based on your actual earnings records and give you a clearer picture of your options.

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This is really valuable information about the widow(er) limit - I had no idea that even waiting until survivor FRA doesn't guarantee 100% of what my husband might have been entitled to! The distinction between survivor FRA and regular FRA is also confusing but clearly important. Given all these complexities that everyone has mentioned - the timing strategies, earnings tests, tax implications, and various benefit caps - I think your suggestion to meet with SSA while we're both healthy is probably the smartest approach. We can get our actual numbers and scenarios mapped out rather than trying to piece together general rules. Thank you for highlighting these additional details that could significantly impact our planning!

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I'm dealing with this exact same situation right now! Just turned 67 last month and applied online while still working full-time. Got that same confusing request for W-2 or paystubs and was totally panicking that I'd messed up my application somehow. Reading through all these responses has been such a relief - it's clear this is just standard procedure when SSA needs current earnings data that isn't in their system yet. I really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences and solutions. The dropbox option sounds perfect since I can't easily take time off work, and knowing that several people got through by calling early morning gives me hope I won't have to wait 2+ hours on hold. It's frustrating that the online application doesn't explain this better upfront instead of making it sound like some urgent requirement, but at least now I know my benefits won't be delayed since I'm already at FRA. Thanks to everyone who shared their stories - this community is so helpful!

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Hi Santiago! Welcome to the community and congratulations on reaching FRA! I'm actually brand new here too and just went through this exact same experience last week. It's so comforting to see how many of us are dealing with the identical situation - that W-2 request really does seem to catch everyone off guard! I was convinced I'd made some terrible mistake during my online application, but reading everyone's responses here has been incredibly reassuring. The dropbox option that Kingston mentioned has been a lifesaver for so many people - definitely seems like the way to go for those of us who can't easily take time off work. I'm planning to try that route myself this week. It's really frustrating how the SSA's online system makes this sound so urgent and confusing when it's apparently just routine data collection. Thanks for adding your voice to this thread - it's great to know we're all navigating this together!

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Just wanted to add my experience to this thread since I went through the exact same thing a few months ago! Reached FRA in October and applied online while still working, got that same confusing W-2 request that had me second-guessing everything I'd entered in the application. I ended up calling early morning (around 8:30 AM on a Thursday) and only waited about 30 minutes - much better than those afternoon horror stories! The representative was really helpful and explained that it's completely routine when you're working at FRA. They just need current earnings data since their system only gets updated annually from the IRS, so they don't have your most recent pay information yet. She also confirmed that since I was already at FRA, there's no earnings test to worry about - they just want to make sure they calculate my initial benefit amount correctly using current data rather than potentially outdated information. I ended up mailing in my recent paystubs and everything processed smoothly. The whole experience really highlighted how the online application could do a much better job explaining this upfront instead of making it sound like some urgent compliance issue. But at least now we all know it's totally normal! Hope this helps anyone else going through the same confusion.

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Thank you so much for sharing your experience, GalaxyGlider! This is exactly the kind of detailed walkthrough that newcomers like me need to hear. It's really reassuring to know that the early morning call strategy actually works and that 30 minutes is totally manageable compared to those 2+ hour wait times. I love how the representative took the time to explain the whole process clearly - that makes so much more sense than the vague automated messages we get after applying online. Your point about the annual IRS data updates really clarifies why they need current pay information even though they have access to our employment history. I'm definitely going to try the early morning calling approach first, and if that doesn't work out, several people here have had great success with the dropbox option. It's so frustrating that the SSA's online system doesn't just explain this upfront with a simple message like "We may need current earnings data since our records are updated annually" instead of making it sound like we've done something wrong! Thanks again for the encouragement - this community has been incredibly helpful for navigating what felt like a really confusing situation.

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This thread has been incredibly informative! As someone who's 64 and planning a similar strategy, I wanted to share what I learned from my SSA appointment last month. The representative confirmed everything mentioned here - earnings continue counting toward your 35 highest years throughout your entire working life, not just until FRA. One thing that might help others: I asked specifically about the timing of recalculations, and they told me SSA typically processes these adjustments between October and December of the year after you earn the income. So if you work through 2025, expect any benefit increase to show up in late 2026. Also, for anyone worried about the website issues mentioned - you can request a paper Social Security Statement by calling 1-800-772-1213. It takes about 2-3 weeks to arrive but shows all your earnings history so you can verify everything is accurate before making your claiming decision. Thanks to everyone who shared their real experiences - it's so much more helpful than trying to decode the official SSA publications!

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Thank you for sharing those specific timing details from your SSA appointment! It's really helpful to know that recalculations typically happen in the October-December timeframe - that gives people realistic expectations instead of wondering why they don't see changes immediately. The tip about requesting a paper statement is also great, especially with all the website issues people have been experiencing. I'm glad this thread has been so educational for everyone planning similar strategies. It's amazing how much clearer these complex rules become when people share their real-world experiences rather than just trying to interpret the official documentation!

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This is exactly the kind of detailed discussion I was hoping to find! I'm 66 and facing the same decision - my FRA is next year but I'm considering working until 70. My earnings have increased substantially over the past decade due to promotions and industry growth, so I'm pretty confident those final years would replace some of my lower-earning years from the 1980s and 1990s. One follow-up question for those who've been through this process: Did any of you run into issues with the automatic recalculation if you had any years with zero earnings (like when taking time off for kids or school)? I have about 3 years with zero earnings in my record, so I'm wondering if working those extra years past FRA would be particularly beneficial in my case since I'd be replacing actual zero years rather than just low-earning years. The timing information about recalculations happening in October-December is super helpful - I'll make sure to watch for that adjustment notice during that window!

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I'm new to this community, but I wanted to share my experience since it's so similar to yours! Just yesterday, I helped my elderly neighbor switch her Social Security direct deposit from Chase to her credit union through the online SSA portal. She also closed her Chase account immediately afterward because she was frustrated with their new fee structure - exactly like your situation. I was helping her because she was really worried about the timing, especially since Social Security is her only income. But here's some encouraging news: when we called SSA today (just one day after making the change online) to check the status, the representative could already see her new credit union account information in their system and said it was showing as "pending verification." Based on all the success stories I'm reading here from people who used the online system, it really seems like your change will process much faster than those 30-60 day estimates they give over the phone. The consistent pattern everyone is reporting is 3-7 business days for online changes. When you call SSA tomorrow, definitely ask if your Bank of America account shows as "active," "verified," or "processing" in their system - that seems to be the key indicator from everyone's experiences. Since you made the change through the online portal just like my neighbor did, I think you're going to be in much better shape than you expect. Try not to panic too much - the online system appears to be very efficient for these changes!

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I'm new to this community, but I wanted to share my recent experience since it's so relevant to your situation! Just this past Monday, I switched my Social Security direct deposit from Chase to my local credit union through my online SSA account, and like you, I closed my Chase account the very next day because of their new fee structure. I was absolutely terrified about the timing since Social Security is my only source of income, but here's what happened: when I called SSA today (Friday) to check the status, the representative confirmed my new credit union account was already showing as "active and verified" in their system - that's only 4 business days after making the change online! Based on all these success stories I'm reading from other community members who used the online portal, it really seems like the system processes these changes within 3-7 business days rather than the scary 30-60 day estimates they quote over the phone. The online system appears to be much more efficient than their official timelines suggest. When you call SSA tomorrow morning, make sure to ask specifically if your Bank of America account shows as "active," "verified," or "processing" in their system - that seems to be the magic indicator that everything is working correctly. Since you also made your change through the online portal and are dealing with the same Chase fee frustrations, I'm confident you're going to be just fine. Try not to panic too much - based on my experience from literally this week and all these other positive outcomes, the online system is much more reliable and faster than expected. You've got this!

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Thank you so much for sharing your experience from literally this week! Your timeline is incredibly encouraging - going from submitting the change on Monday to having your account show as "active and verified" by Friday (4 business days) gives me real hope. It's especially reassuring since you also switched FROM Chase due to the same fee issues and closed your account the next day just like I did. The fact that you called today and got such positive confirmation makes me feel much more optimistic about calling SSA tomorrow morning. All these newcomer success stories with the online system showing 3-7 business day processing times are really helping calm my nerves. I'm definitely going to ask specifically if my Bank of America account shows as "active," "verified," or "processing" when I speak with them. Your experience from literally this week with the exact same Chase situation is exactly what I needed to hear - thank you for taking the time as a newcomer to share such current and relevant information!

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As someone who just started Medicare this year and is dealing with IRMAA for the first time, this thread has been absolutely invaluable! I'm in a very similar situation - had some unexpected income in 2022 that triggered IRMAA for 2024, but my 2023 income dropped well below the threshold. What I love about this discussion is how everyone has shared not just the process overview, but real practical details from their actual experiences. The timeline is crystal clear now: automatic processing in fall, notices in November/December, adjustment effective January 2025. And all the resources mentioned - the Medicare Plan Finder IRMAA calculator, the my Social Security online account monitoring, even that Claimyr callback service for avoiding hold times - these are exactly the tools I needed to feel prepared. It's also reassuring to know that while processing delays can happen, SSA does eventually sort things out with retroactive adjustments. The advice about keeping detailed monthly records really resonates with me - I'm definitely going to start tracking my premium deductions so I can quickly spot any discrepancies. Thanks to everyone for creating such a comprehensive resource through shared experiences. I feel confident now about what to expect and how to handle any potential hiccups. I'll be sure to share my own experience once I go through the adjustment process to keep this knowledge base growing for future members!

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Welcome to the community! It's wonderful to see how this thread has become such a comprehensive resource for people navigating IRMAA adjustments for the first time. Your situation with the unexpected 2022 income spike sounds exactly like what so many of us are dealing with this year. What strikes me most about reading through everyone's experiences is how much anxiety this process can cause when you don't know what to expect, but how manageable it becomes once you have clear information and a plan. The step-by-step approach everyone has outlined here - from using the Medicare calculator to estimate expected premiums, to watching for the December notice, to monitoring your January payment - really transforms this from a mysterious government process into something you can actually track and verify. I'm also impressed by how many practical backup solutions people have shared, like the Claimyr service for phone calls and the tip about calling in September just to confirm they have your tax data. Even though most cases seem to process smoothly, knowing there are solutions for potential hiccups makes the whole thing much less stressful. This is exactly the kind of community knowledge sharing that makes navigating Medicare so much easier. Looking forward to seeing how everyone's adjustments go and continuing to build this resource for future members!

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As someone who's been helping family members navigate Medicare for several years, I wanted to add a few additional insights to this excellent discussion. The automatic IRMAA adjustment process you've all described is indeed very reliable, but I've learned a few things that might be helpful: First, if you're concerned about whether SSA has received your updated tax information, you can actually request a "Benefit Verification Letter" through your my Social Security account around October. This letter will show the income information they currently have on file for IRMAA calculations, which can give you peace of mind that they're working with your correct 2023 data. Second, for those worried about processing delays, I've found that adjustments typically appear in your Social Security payment about 2-3 business days before the official payment date. So if you normally receive your payment on the 3rd Wednesday of the month, you can often see the updated deduction amount by checking online the Monday before. Finally, keep in mind that if you had IRMAA on both Part B and Part D, the adjustment amounts might not be exactly proportional - the bracket structures are slightly different for each part, so don't be surprised if one drops more significantly than the other. Your situation with the 2022 capital gains really sounds textbook for an automatic adjustment - you should definitely see that IRMAA disappear for 2025!

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This is incredibly helpful additional information! I had no idea about the Benefit Verification Letter option - that's such a smart way to confirm they have the correct tax data on file before the processing cycle even begins. Being able to check that in October would definitely give me peace of mind that everything is set up correctly. The tip about checking for payment adjustments a few days early is also great to know. I'm usually pretty anxious about these kinds of changes, so being able to see the updated deduction amount online before the official payment date would help ease that worry. And thank you for explaining that Part B and Part D adjustments might not be proportional - I wouldn't have thought about that and might have been confused when reviewing my notice. It's these kinds of details from experienced community members that make all the difference in understanding what to actually expect. This thread has become such an amazing resource! Between everyone's real experiences and all these practical tips, I feel like I have a complete roadmap for navigating my first IRMAA adjustment. Thanks for adding your family's experiences to help make this process even clearer for newcomers like me.

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