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As a newcomer to this community, I'm incredibly grateful to have found this thread! I'm currently preparing for my own Social Security overseas application and the wealth of practical advice shared here is invaluable. What strikes me most is how consistent everyone's recommendations are across different timeframes - the technology backup strategies (Skype, Google Voice, WhatsApp), proactive communication with FBU Manila, and thorough document organization seem to be universal keys to success. I'm particularly impressed by how supportive the FBU Manila staff appear to be with overseas applicants. It's reassuring to hear that they understand the unique challenges we face and are willing to accommodate special circumstances like travel schedules. One thing I'm taking away from all these experiences is that preparation really seems to pay off in reducing interview stress. Multiple people mentioned that the actual call was much more conversational and straightforward than expected when they came in well-prepared. Thank you all for being so generous with sharing your real experiences - both the successes and the challenges. This community knowledge is making what initially seemed like a daunting bureaucratic process feel completely manageable. I'm looking forward to implementing all these strategies and hopefully sharing my own successful experience to help future newcomers!

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As a newcomer to this community, I want to add my voice to thank everyone for sharing such detailed and practical experiences! I'm in the early stages of preparing my FBU Manila application and this thread has been absolutely invaluable. What really stands out to me is how the preparation strategies shared here seem to directly correlate with successful, low-stress interview experiences. The technology redundancy approach (having Skype, Google Voice, WhatsApp, and portable WiFi as backups) is something I never would have considered, but it makes perfect sense for such an important international call. I'm also impressed by how proactive communication with the FBU Manila office seems to pay off - multiple people mentioned that explaining travel circumstances and requesting document lists early was met with understanding and accommodation. That gives me confidence to reach out when I need to rather than just hoping everything works out. The document organization tips throughout this thread are gold, especially the shared Google Drive folder and one-page cheat sheet concepts. I'm implementing these systems now so I'll be ready whenever my appointment gets scheduled. It's so reassuring to hear that the FBU Manila staff are professional and genuinely want overseas applicants to succeed. Thank you all for creating such a supportive knowledge base - you're making this process feel manageable for newcomers like me!

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Welcome to the community! As another newcomer who's been following this amazing thread closely, I'm struck by how you've captured the key success patterns so well. The correlation between thorough preparation and low-stress interviews really does seem to be the golden thread running through everyone's experiences here. Your point about proactive communication being met with accommodation is so encouraging - it seems like the FBU Manila staff genuinely understand that overseas applicants face unique logistical challenges. That collaborative approach rather than a bureaucratic wall makes such a difference. I'm also implementing those document organization strategies now while waiting for my own application timeline to unfold. The technology redundancy planning seems especially crucial - having multiple backup communication methods ready gives such peace of mind for something this important. What I find most valuable about this thread is how people have shared both their preparation strategies AND the actual interview experiences, so we can see how the planning translates into real results. It's created such a comprehensive roadmap for success. Thank you for adding your perspective as a fellow newcomer - it's reassuring to see others finding the same value in this community wisdom. Here's to all of us having smooth FBU Manila experiences to pay forward to future applicants!

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I'm in a similar situation and want to add something that might help with your decision-making process. Since you mentioned you have savings to live on, you might want to run a "break-even" analysis to see at what age waiting until 70 becomes more profitable than taking reduced benefits at 62. For example, if your benefit at 62 would be $1,200/month but waiting until 70 gets you $2,000/month, you'd collect $96,000 over 8 years by taking it early. But the higher benefit would "catch up" in about 12 years (around age 82). Given your family longevity, waiting could mean significantly more lifetime income. Also, don't forget that your Social Security benefits might be partially taxable depending on your other retirement income, so factor that into your calculations too. The SSA representatives should be able to help you with the benefit estimates, but they won't do the break-even math for you - that's something you'll need to calculate yourself or with a financial advisor. Good luck with your appointment! The wait times have gotten better at most offices lately.

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This break-even analysis approach is exactly what I needed to hear! I never thought about calculating the crossover point like that. Your example really helps put it in perspective - if I'm likely to live past 82 (which seems probable given my family history), then waiting makes financial sense even though it's hard to turn down money now. I'm definitely going to ask the SSA rep to run the numbers for both my own benefits and the divorced spouse benefits at different claiming ages. Then I can do the math myself to figure out which strategy maximizes my lifetime income. Thank you for mentioning the tax implications too - I hadn't considered that my other retirement accounts might push me into a higher tax bracket. Has anyone here actually done this type of break-even calculation? I'm wondering if there are any online calculators that might help with the math.

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There are actually several good online calculators that can help with Social Security break-even analysis! The AARP Social Security Calculator and the SSA's own retirement estimator are decent starting points, but for more detailed scenarios involving divorced spouse benefits, I'd recommend the calculators at FidSafe or Social Security Solutions. One thing to keep in mind with your break-even analysis - don't just look at the monthly benefit amounts. Also factor in potential cost-of-living adjustments (COLAs) over time, since a higher base benefit means larger dollar increases each year when they adjust for inflation. Also, since you mentioned good family longevity, consider that Social Security benefits continue for life and include survivor protections that other investments don't offer. That guaranteed income stream becomes more valuable the longer you live, especially if healthcare costs increase as you age. The math can get complex, but once you have your actual benefit estimates from SSA, plug those numbers into a few different calculators to see if they give you consistent results. Most show that if you expect to live past your early 80s, delaying benefits usually wins out financially.

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Thank you for the calculator recommendations! I just tried the AARP one and it's really eye-opening to see the numbers laid out visually. The difference between claiming at 62 vs 70 is much larger than I expected - almost double the monthly benefit! I'm curious about something you mentioned - how do the COLAs work exactly? Does a higher base benefit really mean I get more dollars each year from cost-of-living increases? That would be another advantage to waiting that I hadn't considered. Also, when you mention survivor protections, does that apply to divorced spouse benefits too? I'm not planning to remarry, but I want to understand all the implications of each choice. The guaranteed income aspect is definitely appealing given how volatile my 401k has been lately!

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I went through this exact same situation two years ago! The process was actually much smoother than I expected once I understood that SSA handles all the comparison work. I applied online at ssa.gov and it took about 6 weeks to get approved. One tip that really helped me: when you're gathering documents, also look for any old tax returns where you filed jointly - SSA sometimes asks for these to verify the marriage dates if there are any discrepancies with your other documents. I ended up getting the divorced spouse benefit which was about $200 more per month than my own would have been. Don't stress about not knowing your ex's benefit amount - the system really does work without you having to figure that out yourself!

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That's so encouraging to hear from someone who went through the exact same situation! $200 more per month makes a real difference. I never would have thought about including old tax returns - that's a great tip about having them ready in case SSA needs to verify marriage dates. It's such a relief to hear that the online application worked well for you and only took 6 weeks. I was worried it might drag on for months. Thanks for sharing your real-world experience - it really helps to know what to expect!

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I'm going through this same process right now and wanted to share what I learned from my appointment last week. The SSA representative was really helpful and confirmed that you don't need your ex's benefit information. She told me they actually prefer when people apply for both benefits simultaneously because it saves them from having to call you back later to explain options. One thing that surprised me - if you don't have your ex's SSN, they can usually find his record using his full name, date of birth, and place of birth. I didn't have his SSN but they located his file within minutes using those details. Also, she mentioned that even if your ex hasn't filed for benefits yet, you can still get divorced spouse benefits based on what he would be entitled to at his full retirement age. The whole appointment took about 45 minutes and I walked away feeling much more confident about my decision to file early. Hope this helps!

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This is incredibly helpful - thank you for sharing what you learned at your appointment! I had no idea they could find records using just name, DOB, and place of birth if you don't have the SSN. That takes a lot of pressure off since I wasn't sure if I still had my ex's SSN written down anywhere. It's also really interesting that you can get divorced spouse benefits even if your ex hasn't filed yet - I didn't know that was possible. Your experience gives me confidence that applying for both benefits at once is the right approach. Did the representative give you any timeline for when you might expect to start receiving benefits after your appointment?

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Great to hear you got some clarity! That's exactly what I was hoping to hear - that you'll get retroactive payments back to when your pension amount actually changes. Make sure to get multiple copies of that pension administrator letter since SSA has a habit of "losing" paperwork. Also, if possible, try to get a receipt showing you submitted the documentation. Good luck with your appointment next week!

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That's really good advice about making multiple copies and getting receipts! I learned that lesson the hard way with other government paperwork. I'll definitely make sure to document everything properly. It's encouraging to hear from someone who understands the process. Fingers crossed the appointment goes smoothly!

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I've been through a very similar situation with GPO and spousal benefits! When my state teacher's pension was recalculated (reduced due to an error in their calculations), I became eligible for a small portion of my ex-husband's Social Security benefits after the GPO reduction. The key thing I learned is that you should receive retroactive payments back to the exact date your pension amount officially changed, not just 6 months. In my case, it was about 14 months of back pay because that's how long it took from when my pension was corrected until SSA processed everything. Make sure you have the pension administrator put the effective date of the change clearly in their letter - this is what SSA will use to calculate your retroactive period. Also, be prepared for the process to take a few months even after you submit everything. But the good news is that once it's approved, the back pay usually comes pretty quickly after that. Your calculation sounds about right too - with a $1,350 pension, the GPO would reduce your spousal benefit by about $900, leaving you with around $75/month from the original $975. Every little bit helps!

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That's so helpful to hear from someone who went through the exact same situation! 14 months of back pay would be amazing - that's exactly what I was hoping for but wasn't sure if it was realistic. Did SSA give you any trouble understanding the pension recalculation initially, or did they process it smoothly once you provided the documentation? I'm nervous about my appointment next week and want to make sure I explain everything clearly to avoid any confusion or delays.

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SSA was actually pretty familiar with these cases once I got to the right person. The first representative I spoke with seemed confused, but when I specifically asked for someone who handles post-entitlement GPO issues, they transferred me to a claims specialist who knew exactly what to do. The key was having that official letter from my pension administrator with the exact effective date and new amount clearly stated. Once I submitted that, the process moved along fairly smoothly - though it still took about 3 months to get fully processed. Just be persistent if the first person you talk to doesn't seem to understand the situation. Ask specifically for someone experienced with GPO suspension cases!

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I'm so sorry you're dealing with this confusing and stressful situation! Reading through all the helpful responses here, it's clear you're not alone in experiencing this jarring transition from SSI to DAC benefits. As a newcomer to this community, I wanted to add that it might be worth contacting your local SOAR (SSI/SSDI Outreach, Access, and Recovery) program if you have one in your area. These programs specifically help people navigate disability benefits and often have staff who are very familiar with DAC transitions and the protections that should be in place. You could also reach out to your state's Protection and Advocacy agency - they provide free legal assistance to people with disabilities and often help with benefit issues like this. They would know exactly what questions to ask SSA and could potentially advocate on your daughter's behalf if needed. It sounds like you have excellent advice already about the key terms to use (Section 1634(c), concurrent benefits) and the importance of being persistent. Having those additional advocacy resources in your back pocket might give you extra peace of mind as you navigate this transition. The fact that so many people here have gone through similar experiences and come out with better long-term stability for their family members is really encouraging. Your daughter is lucky to have such a dedicated advocate in you!

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Thank you for mentioning the SOAR program and Protection and Advocacy agencies! As someone new to navigating these benefit transitions, I had never heard of these resources before. It's really helpful to know there are specialized advocates out there who understand DAC transitions specifically. I'm definitely going to look up our state's Protection and Advocacy agency - having someone who could potentially advocate on my daughter's behalf if SSA gives me the runaround sounds invaluable. The SOAR program sounds like another great resource to have in my toolkit. It's amazing how much I've learned from this community today - not just about the specific protections and terminology I need to know, but also about all these advocacy resources I never knew existed. Thank you for the encouragement too - some days it feels overwhelming trying to navigate all these systems, but knowing there are people and organizations specifically designed to help makes it feel much more manageable!

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I'm so sorry you're going through this incredibly stressful and confusing situation! As someone new to this community, I've been reading through all the responses and I'm amazed by how much helpful information everyone has shared about DAC transitions. It sounds like you have a really solid plan now for when you call SSA - asking specifically about Section 1634(c) for Medicaid protection, concurrent benefits since her payment dropped, and requesting that benefit verification letter. The fact that so many people here have successfully navigated this exact same transition gives me hope for your situation. One thing I wanted to add that I don't think anyone mentioned yet - you might want to ask SSA for a written explanation of exactly how they calculated her new DAC benefit amount. Sometimes there are errors in the calculation, and having it in writing makes it easier to spot if something doesn't look right. Also, if there was an error, you'd have documentation to support an appeal. The silver lining that everyone keeps mentioning about no more asset limits and eventually having dual Medicare/Medicaid coverage sounds like it really will be better long-term, even though this transition period is so difficult right now. You're clearly such a dedicated advocate for your daughter, and with all the knowledge you've gained from this community, I'm confident you'll be able to get this sorted out. Please keep us updated on how your call with SSA goes - I think a lot of people here would love to know the outcome, and it might help other families facing similar transitions!

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