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I just wanted to thank everyone who contributed to this discussion - the information shared here is incredibly valuable! As someone who's been navigating Social Security planning for my own family, I can attest to how confusing these rules can be, especially when dealing with divorced spouse benefits. One additional resource that might be helpful is the SSA's Publication 05-10084 "Benefits For Your Divorced Spouse" which explains these rules in detail. You can find it on their website under publications. Also, many local libraries have AARP tax preparation volunteers during tax season who are often well-versed in Social Security questions and can provide free guidance. The strategy discussed here really highlights the importance of understanding all your options before making claiming decisions. It's great to see a community where people share real experiences and practical advice!
Thank you for mentioning that SSA publication - I'll definitely look that up! And the tip about AARP volunteers at libraries is something I never would have thought of. It's amazing how many resources are available if you know where to look. This whole thread has been such a goldmine of information. I'm feeling much more confident about my Social Security planning now, and it's reassuring to know there's a community of people who've been through similar situations and are willing to share their knowledge. Really appreciate everyone taking the time to help!
This has been such an informative discussion! I'm actually a Social Security representative (though I can't provide official advice here), and I'm impressed by how accurate most of the information shared has been. A few things I'd emphasize for anyone in similar situations: 1. The 10-year marriage requirement is key - you mentioned 25 years, so you're well covered there. 2. Your strategy of waiting until 70 is smart since it maximizes your own benefit with delayed retirement credits. 3. When the time comes to apply for survivor benefits, don't rely solely on phone calls - consider scheduling an in-person appointment at your local SSA office for something this important. 4. Keep in mind that survivor benefits can be claimed as early as age 60 (or 50 if disabled), but waiting until your FRA gives you 100% of the benefit. Your plan is sound, and it's great to see so many people helping each other understand these complex rules. The peace of mind alone of having a backup plan is valuable!
One other thing to consider is that if you claim at 62, you'll be subject to the earnings test if you decide to return to work before your full retirement age. In 2025, you can only earn about $22,320 before they start withholding $1 in benefits for every $2 you earn above that limit. Just something to keep in mind if there's any chance you might work part-time in the future.
I'm in a somewhat similar situation - had to stop working at 58 due to chronic pain issues and am now trying to figure out the best claiming strategy. One thing I learned from meeting with a financial advisor is that it might be worth considering whether your husband should delay his benefits past full retirement age to get delayed retirement credits (8% per year until age 70). If your own benefit ends up being significantly reduced by the zero earning years, maximizing his benefit could help your overall household Social Security income, especially since you'd eventually be eligible for survivor benefits based on his higher amount. Just another angle to consider alongside all the great advice already given here!
That's a really interesting point about delayed retirement credits! I hadn't considered having my husband wait past his full retirement age. An 8% increase per year could really add up, especially for survivor benefits down the road. We'll definitely need to run the numbers on that scenario too. It sounds like you've done your homework on this - did your financial advisor help you model out different claiming strategies? I'm wondering if we should consider getting professional help with all these calculations and decisions.
As a newcomer here, I wanted to share something that might be helpful based on my recent experience helping my mother navigate Social Security. One thing we discovered is that you can actually request a personalized survivor benefit estimate directly from SSA by calling or visiting in person. They can run the exact calculations based on your current earnings record and projected benefit amount. This gave us much more accurate numbers than the online estimators. Also, I'd suggest documenting not just your benefit statements, but also any conversations you have with SSA agents - get names, dates, and case numbers if they assign one. My mom had conflicting information from different agents, and having those details helped resolve the discrepancy. Finally, consider setting up automatic notifications in your MySocialSecurity account so both you and your wife get alerts about any changes to your benefits or earnings record. It's a small step but can help catch issues early.
Welcome to the community, StarSurfer! This is incredibly practical advice. I hadn't thought about requesting a personalized survivor benefit estimate directly from SSA - that sounds much more reliable than trying to piece together information from online calculators. The documentation tip is especially valuable - I've heard too many stories in this thread about people getting conflicting information from different agents, and having names and case numbers would definitely help if we run into that situation. Setting up automatic notifications is also a great suggestion that I'll implement right away. It seems like so many issues with Social Security could be avoided with better record-keeping and proactive monitoring. Thanks for sharing what you learned from helping your mother - these real-world tips are exactly what we need when planning for something this important.
As a newcomer to this community, I wanted to add something that might be useful for your planning. I recently went through Social Security benefit planning with my spouse, and one thing our financial advisor emphasized was the importance of understanding the "do-over" rules. If you change your mind within 12 months of starting benefits, you can withdraw your application and repay what you've received (without interest) to essentially reset and claim later at a higher amount. This could be relevant if you start claiming at your FRA but then realize waiting until 70 would significantly benefit your wife's future survivor benefits. Also, make sure you both understand that survivor benefits aren't just about monthly payments - your wife would also become eligible for any Medicare benefits you're receiving, and she'd retain the higher benefit for life (unless she remarries before age 60). The peace of mind from having this all documented and understood ahead of time is really invaluable.
Welcome to the community, Carmella! That's fascinating information about the "do-over" rules - I had no idea that was even possible! The ability to withdraw and repay within 12 months could definitely be a game-changer for our planning. If I start claiming at my FRA and then realize the math works better for waiting until 70 for my wife's sake, having that option could be really valuable. I'll definitely need to research this more and maybe discuss it with a financial advisor. The point about Medicare benefits transferring is also something I hadn't considered - it's amazing how many interconnected pieces there are to Social Security planning. Thanks for bringing up these additional layers of complexity that we should be thinking about!
My mom had to do this when she started receiving her widows benefits and they made it so complicated! I think the whole social security system is stuck in 1995. Make sure you check your first payment after this is supposed to take effect to make sure they actually started the withholding. My mom thought hers was all set up but then 3 months later realized they never actually started taking the taxes out!
Just wanted to add another data point - I set up withholding for my Social Security benefits about 6 months ago and had a similar experience to what others have described. The online option wasn't available for me at the time (this was before the recent updates), so I had to mail in the W-4V form. One thing I learned the hard way: make sure you calculate what percentage you actually need! I initially chose 10% thinking that would be enough, but when I ran the numbers with my tax preparer, we realized I needed closer to 15-20% to avoid owing money. Unfortunately, since there's no 15% option, I had to go with 22% and now I'm getting a bigger refund than I'd like. Just something to keep in mind when you're deciding on your withholding percentage - it's better to err on the side of withholding a bit more rather than less, especially since changing it later requires another form submission.
That's a really good point about calculating the right percentage! I was just planning to start with 10% but hadn't really thought about whether that would be enough. Do you happen to know if there's a good rule of thumb for estimating how much to withhold? We're both getting about $2,800/month in benefits and have some other retirement income too. I'd rather overwithhold a bit and get a refund than end up owing again next year.
Dmitry Volkov
Congratulations on getting through and getting approved! That's a significant monthly benefit that will definitely help with raising your daughter. Just wanted to add a couple of things others haven't mentioned: 1) If your situation changes and you and your husband legally separate or divorce, you may still be eligible for divorced spouse benefits later when you turn 62 (as long as your marriage lasted at least 10 years, which yours has). 2) Keep good records of all the paperwork you submit to SSA. Sometimes documents get lost in their system and having copies can save you time if you need to resubmit anything. 3) The benefits should be retroactive to when you first became eligible (likely when your daughter started receiving benefits), so you might get a lump sum back payment. It's really encouraging to see someone navigate the SSA system successfully and get the help they're entitled to. Your story will definitely help other parents in similar situations!
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QuantumQuest
•This is such valuable additional information! I hadn't even thought about the retroactive payments or keeping copies of documents. The point about divorced spouse benefits is interesting too - good to know that's an option down the road if needed. It's amazing how many different types of Social Security benefits exist that most people don't know about. Thanks for sharing these practical tips!
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Ezra Collins
This thread has been so helpful! I'm in a somewhat similar situation - my ex-husband is collecting disability benefits and our 12-year-old receives benefits on his record. I'm 45 and have primary custody. I had no idea I might be eligible for mother's benefits too. The information about it not mattering that we're divorced (as long as I'm caring for the child) is news to me. Gabriel, thank you for asking this question and sharing your successful outcome - it's given me hope that I can navigate this process too. The tip about Claimyr.com might be a lifesaver since I've also had terrible luck getting through to SSA by phone. Going to look into applying for these benefits this week!
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Ravi Sharma
•Welcome to the community! Your situation sounds very similar to Gabriel's, and you're absolutely right that you may be eligible for mother's benefits. The great news is that being divorced doesn't disqualify you as long as you're caring for a child under 16 who receives benefits on your ex-husband's record. The key requirements are that you have custody/care of the child and that you were married to the worker (your ex-husband) for at least 10 years - though for these specific mother's benefits, I believe the 10-year rule may not even apply since it's based on caring for the child. Definitely worth pursuing! Good luck with your application this week.
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