Does SSDI impact spouse's ability to claim Social Security spousal benefits?
My sister-in-law (62) has been receiving SSDI since 2020 after a serious workplace injury. Yesterday she got this letter from Social Security saying she might qualify for additional spousal benefits now that my brother just started collecting his retirement benefits at his full retirement age last month. I'm confused because I always thought you couldn't get SSDI and spousal benefits at the same time? I thought she would only be eligible for half of his benefit amount if she filed for regular retirement (not SSDI) and she's still about 4 years away from her own FRA. Has anyone dealt with this situation before? Is this letter accurate or did SSA make a mistake?
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Zoe Papadakis
your sister can get both at same time!! my wife got ssdi and then got my spousal benefit when i retired. the letter is real
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Andre Rousseau
•Really? I didn't know that was possible. How much extra did your wife get if you don't mind me asking? Is it the full spousal amount or reduced?
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Jamal Carter
Yes, this is absolutely legitimate. Your sister-in-law CAN receive both SSDI and spousal benefits simultaneously. Here's how it works: When someone receives SSDI based on their own work record and their spouse files for retirement benefits, the disabled spouse may be eligible for an additional spousal benefit if 50% of the spouse's Primary Insurance Amount (PIA) is higher than their own SSDI benefit. The SSA will pay the higher of: 1. The person's own SSDI benefit, OR 2. A combination that equals up to 50% of their spouse's PIA Since she's under her FRA, there will be a reduction in the spousal portion if she claims it now. The SSA letter is likely explaining this option to her.
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AstroAdventurer
•Wait wait wait I've been on SSDI for 5 years and my husband just started getting his retirement last year and NOBODY TOLD ME THIS!!! Are you saying I might be missing out on extra money every month?? How do you even apply for this??? Do I need to call them or is there a special form???
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Mei Liu
This happened to my cousin too. She got the letter after her husband hit 67. She was so confused but when she finally got through to someone at SSA they explained she'd get a small increase - not the full 50% spousal amount, just the difference between her SSDI and what 50% of his benefit would be. It wasn't a ton but every bit helps!
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Andre Rousseau
•That makes sense. I'll let her know. Was your cousin able to just accept the extra amount or did she have to apply for it separately?
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Liam O'Sullivan
The SSA letter is correct but what they don't explain well is that this isn't FULL spousal benefits in addition to SSDI. Your sister-in-law will only get the DIFFERENCE between her current SSDI benefit and what her spousal benefit would be (if that's higher). Since she's 62 and below her FRA, any spousal benefits would be permanently reduced - probably to around 35% of your brother's PIA instead of 50%. She should definitely respond to the letter and apply, but keep her expectations realistic about the amount. She needs to call SSA to process this - there's no automatic enrollment.
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Amara Chukwu
•GOOD LUCK getting through to SSA on the phone! When my brother tried calling about his SSDI review last month, he spent TWO WEEKS trying. Either busy signals or 3+ hour waits and then getting disconnected!!! The system is BROKEN! They expect disabled people to just sit on hold for days???
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Zoe Papadakis
my wifes extra was about $200 more each month when she got husbands spousal. but they did lots of math i dont understand lol. something about PIA and dual entitlement
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Jamal Carter
•You're absolutely right - it's called "dual entitlement." When someone is entitled to both their own benefit (like SSDI) and a spousal benefit, SSA doesn't pay the full amount of both. Instead, they pay the higher of the two amounts. If the spousal benefit is higher, they receive their own benefit plus the difference between the two.
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Andre Rousseau
Thank you all for the explanations! I'll let my sister-in-law know she should definitely follow up on the letter. Sounds like she might get a small boost in her monthly amount, which would really help with her medical expenses. I'm guessing she'll need to call them to proceed?
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Mei Liu
•Yes she needs to call but tell her to be patient!! My mom tried for 3 days straight before she got through. Morning is usually better than afternoon.
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AstroAdventurer
I just applied for this last month!!! The letter surprised me too. After DAYS of trying to reach someone, they told me it's called "dual entitlement" and I'm getting an extra $137/month on top of my SSDI. Not life-changing but definitely helps with groceries. They backdated it too for 2 months since that's when my husband started his benefits. Tell her to call ASAP - they won't automatically add it!!
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Andre Rousseau
•That's great to know about the backpay - I'll definitely mention that. Did they tell you what documentation she needs to have ready when she calls?
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Jamal Carter
One important thing that hasn't been mentioned: this additional benefit won't affect her Medicare or any SSDI reviews. The spousal benefit is just added to her existing entitlement and doesn't change her status as a disabled beneficiary or trigger any medical reviews. She should also know that when she reaches her own FRA, there will be another potential adjustment as the early filing reduction no longer applies to the spousal portion. It's worth calling SSA at that time as well.
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Liam O'Sullivan
•Excellent point about the FRA adjustment. Many people don't realize that when a person receiving reduced spousal benefits reaches their FRA, they should contact SSA for a potential increase. The system doesn't always catch this automatically.
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Mei Liu
My sister just went through this! She had to provide her husband's SSN, their marriage certificate, and her current benefit verification letter. It took a phone call and then they mailed her forms. Make sure she keeps copies of EVERYTHING she sends them!
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AstroAdventurer
•YES!!!! KEEP COPIES!! I learned that the hard way when they "lost" my work history documents during my original SSDI application and I had to start all over again 😡 I now have a dedicated folder with copies of everything I've ever sent them plus proof of mailing!
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