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Just to add more clarity: Social Security retirement benefits are paid in the month they are due, but they're paid for the previous month. So your September 27th payment was for September's benefit, but you received it in September rather than waiting until October. For retirement benefits, the payment schedule is: - Born 1st-10th: 2nd Wednesday of the month - Born 11th-20th: 3rd Wednesday of the month - Born 21st-31st: 4th Wednesday of the month The first month or two can be irregular as they're establishing your payment record. After that, you should receive your benefits on your scheduled Wednesday based on your birth date. If the portal shows your next payment in early November, it's likely they're still adjusting your payment schedule. If you're concerned, definitely call SSA to confirm everything is on track. The irregularity in the first couple of months is normal, but it's always good to verify.

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Thank you for the explanation. So just to be clear - even though I've missed October's payment, I'm not actually missing any money? It's just a timing issue as they set up my regular schedule?

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Yes, that's exactly right. You're not missing any money - it's just the payment schedule adjusting. Your September benefit was paid in September (on the 27th), and your October benefit will be paid in early November according to your portal. Then after that, you should start receiving payments on your regular schedule based on your birth date. The SSA systems are old and sometimes take a cycle or two to get everything flowing smoothly for new beneficiaries. Rest assured that all your entitled benefits will be paid.

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good luck with your hart issues! my husband had a triple bypass last year and SS was the last thing on our minds. make your health the priority and the rest will work out!! <3

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Thank you for the kind words! You're absolutely right - health comes first. I hope your husband is doing well now after his surgery.

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To summarize what everyone has correctly stated: 1. COLA increases apply to all beneficiaries starting in January regardless of birth month 2. Since Social Security pays benefits in arrears (one month behind), your January benefit (with the COLA increase) is paid in February 3. Your birth month only affects when you first become eligible for benefits and when you receive your monthly payment The 2025 COLA is 2.5%, so everyone's benefit increased by that percentage starting with the January benefit amount (paid in February).

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True but just to add - payment dates are based on birth date too. If your birthday is 1st-10th you get paid 2nd Wed, 11th-20th is 3rd Wed, and 21st-31st get paid on 4th Wed. SSI is different and always paid on 1st unless that's weekend/holiday.

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My aunt thought she was gonna get backpay for the COLA starting from her birthday month all the way to January lol. I had to explain that's not how it works! The SSA does such a bad job explaining this stuff.

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I can see why she thought that! The whole system seems unnecessarily complicated. Thanks for all the helpful responses everyone. I now understand that I'll see my increase in my February payment.

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my sister works at H&R Block and she said 401k definitely counts in the earnings test. you could try working less hours in december if your wife is getting close to the limit. thats what my husband did.

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Thanks for the advice! Maybe I can suggest she take some unpaid time off in December if she's getting close to the limit. I appreciate everyone's help with this.

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One additional thing to keep in mind - the SSA does recalculate your benefit amount when you reach Full Retirement Age to give you credit for the months they withheld benefits due to the earnings test. So while your wife may see reduced benefits now if she exceeds the earnings limit, her benefit amount will increase at FRA to account for those reductions. Many people don't realize this adjustment happens automatically.

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Wait really??? I didn't know they adjust it later! I thought that money was just gone forever. That makes me feel better about working more hours.

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ok but if i waited till 70 to file and then we hit a bad recession with no colas for a few years wouldnt i miss out? trying to decide when to file myself

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Actually, during years with no COLA (like what happened in 2010, 2011, and 2016), NOBODY gets an increase - not people already collecting or people waiting to collect. So you wouldn't be missing out compared to someone already receiving benefits. In fact, you'd still be getting your 8% delayed retirement credits during those years, which people already collecting don't get.

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One important point that hasn't been mentioned: The COLA adjustments that are applied to your PIA (Primary Insurance Amount) starting at age 62 are the SAME percentages that current beneficiaries receive. So when current Social Security recipients got the 8.7% COLA for 2023, people who were eligible but not yet claiming ALSO had their future benefits increased by 8.7%. This applies regardless of when you plan to claim - whether that's 62, 67, 70, or anywhere in between.

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wow that 8.7% was huge!! wish they were all like that lol

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btw has he looked into online degrees? my cousins husband is disabled (ms i think) and does online classes when hes feeling ok and can pause when hes not. more flexible that way

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That's a great suggestion - he has good days and bad days with his condition, so the flexibility of online classes could be perfect. I'll mention that to him.

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I want to add one more thing - if your brother is receiving Medicare due to his disability status, attending college won't affect that coverage either. Some people worry about losing health insurance, but education doesn't impact Medicare eligibility for disabled beneficiaries.

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so sorry about ur son thats really tough. when we adopted our grandkids they told us we HAD to switch them to our benefits and we lost like $400 a month for each kid. later found out that wasnt true at all!! make sure u tell them specifically u just need to report the adoption but want to keep the kids on survivor benefits!!!!!

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This is unfortunately a common misunderstanding, even among some SSA employees. The adoption doesn't require a benefit type change. If you have documentation showing they were receiving higher benefits before, you might want to request a reconsideration of that determination - you may be entitled to back payments for the difference.

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Just wondering - how old are you and your wife? If either of you are under Full Retirement Age and earn income, it could affect family benefits on your record (another reason to keep them on survivor benefits).

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I'm 68 and my wife is 67, so we're both past FRA. I still do some consulting work but it doesn't affect our benefits anymore. That's a good point though.

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One other important consideration: Once you file for benefits, there's a limit to how much you can earn from working before they start reducing your benefits (the earnings test). For 2025, if you're under FRA for the full year, they deduct $1 for every $2 you earn above $23,110. This stops once you reach your FRA. So if you're still working or planning to work, make sure to factor this into your decision. Many people are surprised when their benefits get reduced because of earnings.

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This is really helpful information. I do work part-time and make about $15,000 per year. Sounds like I'd be under the limit, but good to know it exists. If I pick up more hours, I'll need to watch this carefully.

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ALSO!!! don't forget bout TAXES!! up to 85% of ur SS benefits can be taxable depending on ur other income. we didnt realize this and ended up owing a bunch at tax time that first year 😠

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Oh no! Thanks for the warning. I'll definitely talk to our tax person before making a final decision. This is getting more complicated than I thought!

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Just to clarify a common point of confusion - the IRMAA adjustment is typically processed for future months, but they should also refund any overpayments back to the month after you submitted your life-changing event documentation. However, they don't automatically go back further than your filing date, even if your income changed earlier. That's why it's important to file the SSA-44 as soon as possible after your life-changing event occurs. The second letter should clearly indicate any retroactive adjustments and exactly when your new premium amount takes effect.

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wow i wish id known this sooner my income went way down in 2023 but ive been paying high medicare all this time! can i still file now or is it too late??

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It's not too late! You can still file the SSA-44 form now, but they'll only adjust your premiums going back to the month after you file. They won't automatically give you retroactive adjustments for all of 2023 and 2024, unfortunately. That's why it's so important to file as soon as your income changes significantly.

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BTW did they make u provide proof when u did your IRMAA appeal?? They made me bring actual pay stubs & my retirement paperwork when I went in. Just wondering if different offices have different requirements.

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Yes, I had to bring my final pay stub, my retirement letter, and a signed statement about my expected income for this year. The claims specialist was actually really helpful with getting everything organized. Did you find the process confusing? I wasn't sure exactly what documents they needed at first.

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SUPER confusing!!! My office wanted different stuff than what the website said!! Wasted a whole trip because I didn't bring the right papers the first time!! So frustrating!!

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my cousin had to pay back a big amount because she didnt report her earnings right. make sure ur mom keeps ssa updated on her income so she doesnt get a surprise bill!

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This is a good point. The earnings test is typically applied based on your estimated earnings for the year. If you earn more than estimated, SSA can assess an overpayment. However, they usually recover this through withholding future checks rather than requesting immediate repayment. Your mother should update SSA promptly if her earnings will be different than initially reported.

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Thank you all for the incredibly helpful advice! Here's my takeaway plan for my mom: 1. She'll request a detailed benefit estimate from SSA showing exact figures at different claiming ages 2. We'll calculate how many months might be withheld based on her expected earnings 3. We'll factor in the higher earnings limit for her FRA year 4. I'll help her create a system to track and report all earnings accurately 5. We'll weigh the permanent reduction against her immediate financial needs One last question - does anyone know if she would receive a notice from SSA before they withhold payments, or would they just stop coming?

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Yes, SSA will send a notice before withholding payments. It will explain which months will be withheld and why. They typically do this annual adjustment early in the year after they receive earnings information. Another option you might consider: if your mom's situation improves before FRA, she could potentially withdraw her application within 12 months of filing (paying back benefits received) or suspend benefits at FRA to earn delayed retirement credits. These provide additional flexibility.

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