I went through this exact same situation two years ago! The process was actually much smoother than I expected once I understood that SSA handles all the comparison work. I applied online at ssa.gov and it took about 6 weeks to get approved. One tip that really helped me: when you're gathering documents, also look for any old tax returns where you filed jointly - SSA sometimes asks for these to verify the marriage dates if there are any discrepancies with your other documents. I ended up getting the divorced spouse benefit which was about $200 more per month than my own would have been. Don't stress about not knowing your ex's benefit amount - the system really does work without you having to figure that out yourself!

I'm going through this same process right now and wanted to share what I learned from my appointment last week. The SSA representative was really helpful and confirmed that you don't need your ex's benefit information. She told me they actually prefer when people apply for both benefits simultaneously because it saves them from having to call you back later to explain options. One thing that surprised me - if you don't have your ex's SSN, they can usually find his record using his full name, date of birth, and place of birth. I didn't have his SSN but they located his file within minutes using those details. Also, she mentioned that even if your ex hasn't filed for benefits yet, you can still get divorced spouse benefits based on what he would be entitled to at his full retirement age. The whole appointment took about 45 minutes and I walked away feeling much more confident about my decision to file early. Hope this helps!

I'm in a similar situation and want to add something that might help with your decision-making process. Since you mentioned you have savings to live on, you might want to run a "break-even" analysis to see at what age waiting until 70 becomes more profitable than taking reduced benefits at 62. For example, if your benefit at 62 would be $1,200/month but waiting until 70 gets you $2,000/month, you'd collect $96,000 over 8 years by taking it early. But the higher benefit would "catch up" in about 12 years (around age 82). Given your family longevity, waiting could mean significantly more lifetime income. Also, don't forget that your Social Security benefits might be partially taxable depending on your other retirement income, so factor that into your calculations too. The SSA representatives should be able to help you with the benefit estimates, but they won't do the break-even math for you - that's something you'll need to calculate yourself or with a financial advisor. Good luck with your appointment! The wait times have gotten better at most offices lately.

There are actually several good online calculators that can help with Social Security break-even analysis! The AARP Social Security Calculator and the SSA's own retirement estimator are decent starting points, but for more detailed scenarios involving divorced spouse benefits, I'd recommend the calculators at FidSafe or Social Security Solutions. One thing to keep in mind with your break-even analysis - don't just look at the monthly benefit amounts. Also factor in potential cost-of-living adjustments (COLAs) over time, since a higher base benefit means larger dollar increases each year when they adjust for inflation. Also, since you mentioned good family longevity, consider that Social Security benefits continue for life and include survivor protections that other investments don't offer. That guaranteed income stream becomes more valuable the longer you live, especially if healthcare costs increase as you age. The math can get complex, but once you have your actual benefit estimates from SSA, plug those numbers into a few different calculators to see if they give you consistent results. Most show that if you expect to live past your early 80s, delaying benefits usually wins out financially.

Great to hear you got some clarity! That's exactly what I was hoping to hear - that you'll get retroactive payments back to when your pension amount actually changes. Make sure to get multiple copies of that pension administrator letter since SSA has a habit of "losing" paperwork. Also, if possible, try to get a receipt showing you submitted the documentation. Good luck with your appointment next week!

I've been through a very similar situation with GPO and spousal benefits! When my state teacher's pension was recalculated (reduced due to an error in their calculations), I became eligible for a small portion of my ex-husband's Social Security benefits after the GPO reduction. The key thing I learned is that you should receive retroactive payments back to the exact date your pension amount officially changed, not just 6 months. In my case, it was about 14 months of back pay because that's how long it took from when my pension was corrected until SSA processed everything. Make sure you have the pension administrator put the effective date of the change clearly in their letter - this is what SSA will use to calculate your retroactive period. Also, be prepared for the process to take a few months even after you submit everything. But the good news is that once it's approved, the back pay usually comes pretty quickly after that. Your calculation sounds about right too - with a $1,350 pension, the GPO would reduce your spousal benefit by about $900, leaving you with around $75/month from the original $975. Every little bit helps!

I'm so sorry you're dealing with this confusing and stressful situation! Reading through all the helpful responses here, it's clear you're not alone in experiencing this jarring transition from SSI to DAC benefits. As a newcomer to this community, I wanted to add that it might be worth contacting your local SOAR (SSI/SSDI Outreach, Access, and Recovery) program if you have one in your area. These programs specifically help people navigate disability benefits and often have staff who are very familiar with DAC transitions and the protections that should be in place. You could also reach out to your state's Protection and Advocacy agency - they provide free legal assistance to people with disabilities and often help with benefit issues like this. They would know exactly what questions to ask SSA and could potentially advocate on your daughter's behalf if needed. It sounds like you have excellent advice already about the key terms to use (Section 1634(c), concurrent benefits) and the importance of being persistent. Having those additional advocacy resources in your back pocket might give you extra peace of mind as you navigate this transition. The fact that so many people here have gone through similar experiences and come out with better long-term stability for their family members is really encouraging. Your daughter is lucky to have such a dedicated advocate in you!

I'm so sorry you're going through this incredibly stressful and confusing situation! As someone new to this community, I've been reading through all the responses and I'm amazed by how much helpful information everyone has shared about DAC transitions. It sounds like you have a really solid plan now for when you call SSA - asking specifically about Section 1634(c) for Medicaid protection, concurrent benefits since her payment dropped, and requesting that benefit verification letter. The fact that so many people here have successfully navigated this exact same transition gives me hope for your situation. One thing I wanted to add that I don't think anyone mentioned yet - you might want to ask SSA for a written explanation of exactly how they calculated her new DAC benefit amount. Sometimes there are errors in the calculation, and having it in writing makes it easier to spot if something doesn't look right. Also, if there was an error, you'd have documentation to support an appeal. The silver lining that everyone keeps mentioning about no more asset limits and eventually having dual Medicare/Medicaid coverage sounds like it really will be better long-term, even though this transition period is so difficult right now. You're clearly such a dedicated advocate for your daughter, and with all the knowledge you've gained from this community, I'm confident you'll be able to get this sorted out. Please keep us updated on how your call with SSA goes - I think a lot of people here would love to know the outcome, and it might help other families facing similar transitions!

Something important to consider - even though the child receives these benefits, they technically belong to the parent/guardian to use for the child's benefit. For tax purposes, if the benefits exceed certain thresholds, they may be taxable. Your client should keep this in mind for future tax planning. The child should have received a separate SSA-1099 for his benefits, which would need to be reported if they exceed the taxable thresholds.

This thread has been incredibly educational! As someone new to this community, I had no idea dependent children could receive Social Security benefits when a parent retires. I'm 35 with young kids and always assumed Social Security was just for retirees and survivors. Reading through all these responses, it sounds like this could be relevant for families where parents have children later in life. A few questions for the group: Is there any difference in benefit amounts if the child is adopted vs biological? And does the timing of when the parent files for retirement benefits affect the child's eligibility at all? Thanks for sharing all this knowledge - I'm learning so much!