Survivor benefits confusion - did I miss checking a box for my spouse on my Social Security application?
I'm really worried I might have messed up my Social Security paperwork. When I applied for my retirement benefits last month, I vaguely remember there being something about survivor benefits or a box to check about my spouse. But I was so focused on getting my own benefit amount right that I can't remember if I actually checked it. Does anyone know if my wife will automatically get survivor benefits when I pass away? Or did I need to specifically mark something on my application? I'm 68 and she's 64, if that matters. This has been keeping me up at night thinking I might have shortchanged her future income.
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Felix Grigori
Don't worry! You didn't miss anything crucial. Survivor benefits aren't something you sign up for when you apply for your own retirement benefits. Your spouse will be eligible for survivor benefits when you pass away regardless of what you checked on your application. She'll need to apply for those benefits after your passing, but your current application doesn't affect her future eligibility. What you might be remembering is something about spouse benefits (while you're both alive), which is different from survivor benefits (after one spouse dies).
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Savannah Glover
•Oh thank goodness! That's such a relief. So just to be clear, when I pass away, she'll get either her own benefit or mine, whichever is higher? And there's nothing I need to do right now to make sure that happens?
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Felicity Bud
My husband died last year and I had to go to the SSA office to apply for survivor benefits. They don't automatically switch you over!! You have to apply and bring death certificate. Also they don't pay for the month the person died, learned that the hard way
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Max Reyes
•This ^^^ My mom went through the same thing. The Social Security people don't tell you ANY of this stuff ahead of time. It's ridiculous how they expect everyone to just know all their complicated rules.
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Mikayla Davison
There are two separate issues here: 1. Spousal benefits (while you're both alive): If your spouse wants to claim benefits on your record while you're both living, that's a spousal benefit. She would need to apply for this separately. 2. Survivor benefits (after you pass away): This is completely separate from your retirement application. Your widow would apply for these after your passing and would receive either her own benefit or up to 100% of your benefit amount, whichever is higher. The box you might be thinking of could have been about computing your own benefit amount considering the effect on family benefits, but this doesn't "register" or "sign up" your spouse for anything. Your current benefit choices (like when you claimed) DO affect the survivor benefit amount, though - the earlier you claimed, the lower her survivor benefit would be.
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Savannah Glover
•That makes a lot more sense! I claimed at 68, so hopefully that means she'd get a decent amount if something happened to me. Is there anything we should do now to prepare? Should we keep copies of our marriage certificate handy or anything like that?
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Adrian Connor
I think what you're remembering is probably from the benefit calculator on the SSA website, not the actual application. They have a thing where you can estimate your spouse's benefit based on your record. But that's just a calculator, not an election. Nothing to worry about!
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Aisha Jackson
•This. The calculators ask about family members to show you the whole financial picture, but the actual benefit applications are separate for each person.
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Felix Grigori
To add to what others have said, your wife should make sure she has easy access to these documents when the time comes to apply for survivor benefits: - Your death certificate (several certified copies) - Your Social Security number - Your marriage certificate - Birth certificates for both of you - Your most recent tax return And just so you know - she would need to contact Social Security within 30 days of your passing. They don't automatically start survivor benefits.
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Felicity Bud
•And make sure she knows she CAN'T apply online! I tried and wasted so much time. You have to call or go in person for survivor benefits. I spent 3 weeks trying to get someone on the phone before giving up and going to the office where I waited 4 hours
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Ryder Everingham
Call the SSA to confirm if you're really concerned, but trying to reach them by phone is a NIGHTMARE. I spent 6 hours on hold last month and got disconnected twice. I finally used this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that holds your place in line and calls you when an agent is available. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU. Saved me hours of frustration. But honestly, based on what others are saying, I don't think you need to worry about this right now.
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Savannah Glover
•Thanks for the tip about Claimyr. I might check that out. I tried calling SSA once before and gave up after being on hold for nearly 2 hours.
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Aisha Jackson
my aunt thought the same thing and was worried for years!!! turns out it was fine. SSA isn't great at explaining things clear
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Savannah Glover
•It seems like a lot of us share this confusion! Makes me feel better knowing I'm not the only one who finds this stuff complicated.
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Mikayla Davison
One important thing to know: if your wife is planning to claim her own retirement benefits before her Full Retirement Age, she should consider how that might affect her future survivor benefits. Sometimes it's better financially to take your own reduced retirement benefit early and then switch to the survivor benefit at your Full Retirement Age. Other times it makes more sense to wait. It depends on your specific benefit amounts. This is one area where getting some professional advice might be worthwhile. The rules around survivor benefits and optimal claiming strategies can be quite complex, especially when both spouses have their own earnings records.
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Adrian Connor
•THIS! My neighbor lost out on thousands because she didn't understand this rule. The SSA doesn't always explain all your options when you go in. They just process whatever you ask for, not necessarily what's best for you.
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Max Reyes
doesnt matter what u checked or didnt check. my mom got my dads SS after he died but she had to go apply for it they dont do anything automatic. SS never makes anything easy lol
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