Just to summarize everything for others who might have similar questions: Your pension absolutely does NOT count toward the Social Security earnings limit - only wages and self-employment income count. At $16,000/year from part-time work, you're well under the 2025 limit of $22,680. However, do keep in mind a few things: 1) Your pension WILL count toward determining if your SS benefits are taxable (up to 85% can be taxed), 2) Check if WEP/GPO applies to your state pension as that could reduce your SS benefit amount, and 3) Consider the tax withholding options when you apply. Sounds like you're in good shape to start collecting in June!

Great question! I'm approaching 65 myself and had similar concerns. Just wanted to add that it's worth double-checking with SSA about your specific state pension to make sure WEP doesn't apply. Some state employees paid into Social Security for part of their career and some didn't, which affects whether WEP reduces your benefits. You can use the WEP calculator on the SSA website to get an estimate. Also, since you mentioned your FRA is 66 and 10 months, you might want to run the numbers on waiting vs. taking benefits early - the monthly reduction for taking at 65 instead of FRA could be significant over your lifetime. But sounds like you've got the earnings limit part figured out thanks to everyone's great advice!

I'm also facing this same timing decision and wanted to share something I learned from my local SSA office visit last week. The representative emphasized that when you're born in January of any year, you actually reach your birthday month age on the first day of that month for Social Security purposes. So if you were born in January 1958, you're considered to reach age 66 on January 1, 2024, and then your additional 10 months would put your FRA at November 1, 2024. What really helped me understand this was asking the SSA rep to show me exactly how they calculate it in their system. She pulled up my record and walked through it step by step. This might be worth doing if you have any lingering doubts - even though it can be hard to get through on the phone, visiting a local office (with an appointment if possible) can give you that face-to-face confirmation. One more tip - when I was there, she showed me how the online application has a "preview" feature before you submit where you can see exactly what benefits will start when. Use that preview to double-check everything looks right before hitting submit!

This thread has been incredibly educational! I'm in a similar boat - born January 1958 with an FRA of 66 and 10 months. Reading everyone's experiences has really helped clarify the process. One thing I wanted to add that I learned from my financial advisor - if you're married and your spouse will eventually claim spousal benefits on your record, starting your benefits right at FRA (rather than delaying) can actually be beneficial because it establishes your Primary Insurance Amount for their spousal benefit calculation. Delaying your own benefits past FRA increases YOUR monthly payment but doesn't increase the spousal benefit amount your spouse could receive. This might not apply to everyone's situation, but it's worth considering if spousal benefits are part of your household's retirement strategy. Just another piece of the puzzle to think about when timing your application! Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - it's so helpful to hear from people who have actually been through this process successfully.

Based on what you've shared about your income ($65,000) and age (turning 60), here's my recommendation: 1. Since you're substantially over the earnings limit, most or all of your survivor benefits would be withheld until you reach FRA or reduce your work hours. 2. You might consider waiting to apply until either: - You're closer to retirement or reducing hours, OR - You reach FRA when the earnings test no longer applies 3. If you decide to apply anyway, January would be slightly better than December for tax purposes, but the earnings test impact would be far more significant than any tax difference. 4. Remember that the reduction for taking survivor benefits early is permanent, but if your own retirement benefit at 70 would be higher than your survivor benefit at FRA, there might still be a strategy in taking reduced survivor benefits for a period and then switching.

I'm so glad you found this thread before making your decision! I went through something similar when my spouse passed two years ago. The earnings test is definitely the biggest factor most people don't know about upfront. One thing that helped me was scheduling a consultation with SSA just to understand all my options without actually filing yet. They can run the numbers for you based on your specific situation - your current earnings, your deceased spouse's work record, and your own projected retirement benefit. Also consider that even though the reduction for taking survivor benefits early is permanent, if your own retirement benefit would be significantly higher, you could potentially use survivor benefits as a "bridge" later when you do reduce your work hours, then switch to your own record at 70 when it reaches maximum value. But with your income level, that strategy might not work until you're closer to retirement anyway. The grief support group you mentioned might have other members who've navigated this - it really helps to talk to people who've been through the whole process!

This is such a helpful thread! I'm not receiving benefits yet but will be applying soon, and I had no idea about the proration for first payments. Reading through everyone's experiences here is really valuable - I would have definitely panicked like you did if I received a payment that was 1/3 of what I expected without knowing this was normal. It's frustrating that SSA doesn't explain this clearly in their communications, but at least we have communities like this where people share their real experiences. Thanks to everyone who took the time to explain the process - this will help so many people who find this thread in the future when they're going through the same thing! @Liam O'Sullivan - hope your next payment comes through at the full amount and puts your mind at ease!

I'm so glad I found this thread! I'm planning to apply for Social Security benefits next year and had no idea about the proration system for first payments. Reading through everyone's experiences here is incredibly educational - it would have saved me from a heart attack if I received only 1/3 of my expected first payment without understanding why! It's really helpful to see how the community comes together to explain these confusing SSA processes. The breakdown of how they calculate partial month payments based on your entitlement date makes perfect sense now, and the tips about setting up the my Social Security account and using secure messaging are invaluable. For future applicants like me, this thread is a goldmine of practical information. Thank you to everyone who shared their experiences and knowledge - you're helping so many people navigate this system with less stress and confusion!

Thanks everyone for the helpful information! I feel much better understanding how this works now. So to summarize what I've learned: 1. The $4,500 taxable amount from the calculator is likely correct based on our current income 2. We're dangerously close to the second threshold where taxation increases dramatically 3. Need to be careful about RMDs and other income that could push us over 4. The SSA calculator is probably more reliable than random websites I think we'll consult with a tax professional before making any decisions about additional income this year. This has been incredibly helpful!

Just wanted to add another perspective on the calculators - I work as a tax preparer and see this confusion constantly. The issue is that many online calculators don't clearly explain the "provisional income" concept or use outdated thresholds. Your $4,500 figure is correct based on what you've shared, but I'd strongly recommend double-checking that your "other income" figure of $8,000 includes ALL taxable income - wages, interest, dividends, pension distributions, etc. People often forget about small amounts that can add up. Also, since you're so close to that $44,000 threshold, consider the timing of any income you have control over. Even something like selling stocks or taking a larger withdrawal from savings could accidentally push you into the 85% taxation bracket if it generates taxable income. The cliff effect between 50% and 85% taxation is one of the most brutal aspects of the tax code for retirees.