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I just found out something that's completely thrown me for a loop. For years I thought SSDI (Social Security Disability Insurance) payments were exactly the same as what you'd get at your Full Retirement Age (FRA). But I stumbled across a post today saying they're different amounts? Can anyone clarify this for me? If someone qualifies for SSDI, how much different is that payment compared to taking early retirement at 62? I'm trying to help my brother who's considering applying for disability but is almost 62 and wondering if he should just file for early retirement instead. Would he be leaving a lot of money on the table by taking early SS vs trying for disability? Any real numbers or percentages would really help.
I'm facing some big life changes and need clarity on SS benefits. My husband and I have been married for 32 years, but last year he retired and immediately moved across the country. He's established permanent residency there, and after a year of this arrangement, I'm pretty certain our marriage is over. I'm starting to look into divorce options. I've heard something about a 2-year waiting period for claiming Social Security spousal benefits after divorce, but I'm confused about when this 2-year clock starts ticking. Is it 2 years from when I initially file for divorce, or 2 years from when the divorce is actually finalized by the court? I'm 60 now, and planning for my own retirement has suddenly become complicated. I worked part-time most of my life while raising our kids, so my own SS benefits would be much lower than what I might get from his record. Any clarity on this timing issue would be really helpful for my planning.
I went through a very similar situation a few years ago, and I want to echo what others have said about the 2-year rule. Since your husband is already collecting his retirement benefits, you won't need to wait 2 years after the divorce is finalized - you can apply for divorced spouse benefits as soon as the divorce is final and you turn 62. One thing I wish someone had told me earlier: consider requesting your Social Security Statement online at ssa.gov to see your estimated benefits based on your own work record. Even though you worked part-time, you might be surprised at what your own benefit could be. Sometimes the divorced spouse benefit (which maxes out at 50% of your ex's full retirement age benefit) isn't necessarily higher than your own, especially if you factor in the early retirement reduction. Also, don't forget that you can switch between benefits if circumstances change. For example, if you start with your own reduced benefit at 62, you could potentially switch to the divorced spouse benefit later if it becomes advantageous. The emotional part of this is just as challenging as the financial planning. Take care of yourself through this process - 32 years is a long marriage to untangle, and it's completely normal to feel overwhelmed by all the details.
Thank you for sharing your experience and for the practical advice about getting my Social Security Statement online. I really appreciate hearing from someone who's been through something similar - it does help with feeling less alone in all this. You make an excellent point about checking my own work record. I've been assuming his would automatically be better since I worked part-time, but you're right that I should get the actual numbers before making assumptions. The flexibility to switch between benefits later is something I hadn't considered either, so that's really valuable to know. I'm definitely feeling overwhelmed trying to juggle the emotional side with all the financial and legal details, so I appreciate the reminder to take care of myself through this process. It's a lot to untangle after three decades together.
I'm so sorry you're dealing with this difficult situation after such a long marriage. Reading through all the responses here, it's clear you've gotten excellent advice about the Social Security timing rules. I wanted to add one practical tip that might help with your planning process. Since you have about 2 years before you turn 62, this could be a good time to create a "Social Security file" where you keep all the relevant documents and information in one place. Include things like your Social Security Statement (which you can get online at ssa.gov), your marriage certificate, and eventually your divorce decree. Also consider keeping notes about your ex-husband's work history and when he started collecting benefits - SSA may ask about these details when you apply. You might also want to set a reminder for yourself to check back on any rule changes as you get closer to 62. While the fundamentals are unlikely to change, sometimes there are updates to the application process or documentation requirements. The fact that you're thinking through all these details now shows you're really on top of your planning. After 32 years of marriage, you deserve to feel confident about your financial security going forward. Hang in there - you're asking all the right questions and gathering the information you need to make good decisions for your future.
This is such practical advice about creating a "Social Security file" - I wish I had thought of that earlier! You're absolutely right that having everything organized in one place will make the application process so much smoother when the time comes. I've already been collecting some documents for the divorce proceedings, but creating a dedicated SS file makes perfect sense. The suggestion about keeping notes on my ex-husband's work history is really smart too. I know the basics of when he retired and started collecting, but having those details written down will definitely be helpful when I apply. I hadn't thought about checking for rule changes as I get closer to 62 either, but that's a good reminder since these programs can evolve. Thank you for the encouragement about being on top of my planning - honestly, there are days when this all feels overwhelming, but breaking it down into concrete steps like this really helps. Having a clear action plan for the next couple of years makes everything feel more manageable.
I've been trying to figure out how benefits work for our family situation and getting confused by all the SSA rules. My husband passed away 2 years ago, and I'm 62 now but still working full-time. I have a 35-year-old son with autism who receives SSDI (about $1375/month). I'm currently eligible for survivor benefits since I'm over 60, but haven't applied because of the earnings limit while working. What I really need to know is: when I eventually apply for either survivor benefits or my own retirement, will my son's SSDI benefits affect how much I can receive? I keep seeing mentions of a "family maximum" but can't figure out if that applies to adult disabled children receiving SSDI or just minor children. Does anyone understand how this works? Will claiming benefits reduce what my son gets?
That's really helpful, thank you! I didn't realize there was a difference between the 75% vs 50% depending on whether the parent is living or deceased. It seems like keeping my son on my husband's record might be better, but I'll definitely get SSA to run the numbers. I appreciate everyone's help in understanding this complicated situation!
I'm dealing with a similar situation and wanted to add something important that hasn't been mentioned yet - make sure to ask SSA about the "deemed filing" rules when you do apply for survivor benefits. Since you're over your full retirement age for survivor benefits (which is different from regular retirement age), you have more flexibility in timing. You can potentially claim survivor benefits now without being forced to claim your own retirement benefits, which gives you more control over maximizing your total lifetime benefits. Also, don't forget that survivor benefits aren't subject to the earnings test once you reach full retirement age for survivors (around 66-67 depending on your birth year), so you might be able to claim them even while working full-time. The family maximum calculations are definitely tricky, but having that survivor benefit option gives you more strategic choices for when and how to claim.
I'm hitting my full retirement age (FRA) in September 2025 and planning to start collecting Social Security then, but I'm not actually retiring from my job. I've already earned about $62,000 in the first three quarters of this year and will continue working. Will this income reduce my Social Security benefits even though I'll be at FRA when I start collecting? Or should I wait until January 2026 to avoid any earnings test complications? I'm confused about how the earnings limit works when you reach FRA in the middle of the year. Anyone dealt with this situation before?
Based on what you've shared, starting your benefits in September 2025 when you reach FRA makes the most sense. The potential reduction for exceeding the earnings limit by a small amount for the pre-FRA months would be minimal compared to giving up four complete months of benefits by waiting until January 2026. Remember that at your FRA, you'll receive 100% of your primary insurance amount (PIA). If you delay past FRA, you earn delayed retirement credits of 8% per year (or 2/3% per month) up to age 70. But if you're continuing to work anyway, there's typically no financial advantage to delaying once you've reached FRA unless you're trying to maximize your benefit at age 70.
Great decision, Marina! Just wanted to add one more point that might be helpful - when you do file in September, make sure to keep good records of your monthly earnings for 2025. The SSA will need to verify exactly how much you earned in the months before your FRA versus after. Having clear documentation (pay stubs, etc.) can help speed up the process if they need to recalculate anything. Also, don't be surprised if your first few benefit payments seem a bit off while they sort out the earnings test calculation - it usually gets corrected within a few months. Good luck with your retirement planning!
I'm turning 66 next year and trying to get all my ducks in a row for retirement. One thing that's confusing me is what actually gets taken out of my Social Security check each month. I know Medicare premiums are deducted, but does the SSA also withhold taxes automatically? Or do I need to make quarterly estimated tax payments to the IRS? And if they do withhold taxes, is it a standard percentage or can I choose how much? Would hate to be surprised when that first check arrives and it's way smaller than I expected!
Thanks everyone for such detailed responses! This clarifies a lot. Sounds like I need to: 1. Expect Medicare Part B to be automatically deducted ($207) 2. Consider Part D premiums as well 3. File that W-4V form for tax withholding 4. Be aware that 50-85% of my benefits might be taxable I'll definitely calculate all this before I finalize my retirement date. Really appreciate all the help!
Reading below it looks like the withholding percentage, say 12% is on the gross and then medicare premiums, etc come out of what is left taken withholding, is this correct?
Actually, it's the opposite! The tax withholding percentage is calculated on your net Social Security benefit AFTER Medicare premiums and other deductions are taken out. So if your gross benefit is $2,000 and Medicare Part B takes out $207, your net benefit becomes $1,793. Then if you chose 12% tax withholding, that would be 12% of $1,793 (about $215), not 12% of the original $2,000. This is why @Ryder Greene s'math above works out - his $285 withholding is roughly 10% of his post-Medicare amount, not his gross $2,850.
Hattie Carson
Thanks everyone for the helpful information! I had no idea the difference between SSDI and early retirement could be so substantial. I'm going to talk to my brother about applying for disability first, and we'll gather all his medical documentation. It sounds like even with the difficult approval process, the financial difference makes it worth trying before just defaulting to early retirement. I'll also look into that call service someone mentioned since we've been struggling to get through to SSA by phone.
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Mateo Gonzalez
One thing to keep in mind is that your brother can actually apply for SSDI even if he's already receiving early retirement benefits, but there are some important timing considerations. If he gets approved for SSDI after starting early retirement, SSA will convert him to disability benefits and pay back the difference in monthly amounts from when his disability began (up to 12 months before his application date). However, it's much better to apply for SSDI first if possible, because once you start receiving retirement benefits, it can complicate the disability determination process. The key question becomes whether his inability to work started before or after he filed for retirement. Given that he's almost 62, I'd definitely recommend applying for SSDI immediately if his rheumatoid arthritis is preventing him from working. Don't wait - the longer he delays, the harder it becomes to establish that disability onset date before age 62.
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