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I'm new to this community but reading through your situation has me so frustrated on your behalf - the conflicting information from SSA workers is absolutely inexcusable when families are dealing with grief and trying to secure their disabled children's care. Based on everything shared here, it really sounds like there might be calculation errors in your daughter's case. The fact that so many experienced families have found mistakes with parental deeming rules when survivor benefits are involved gives me real hope for your situation. A few things I wanted to add that might help: When you call to request that detailed income breakdown, don't accept "we don't have that information available" as an answer. They absolutely have the calculations - they just might not want to dig them up. Be persistent and ask to speak with a supervisor if needed. Also, regarding the Pickle Amendment application process - I'd suggest calling your state Medicaid office first to confirm exactly where and how to apply before making any trips. Some states handle it through county offices, others through state agencies directly. Getting the right office from the start will save you time and frustration. One more thing - if you do find calculation errors (which honestly sounds likely based on everyone's experiences here), don't be surprised if it takes multiple attempts to get them corrected. Document everything and don't give up. Your daughter's healthcare depends on these benefits, and you have every right to accurate calculations. You're doing an amazing job advocating for her during such a difficult time. This community clearly has your back, and it sounds like you now have a solid plan of action to fight this properly!

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Welcome to the community, Monique! Your point about being persistent when requesting those detailed calculations is so important - I realize I've probably been too easily accepting "we don't have that information" as an answer when I should be pushing back and asking for supervisors. I'm definitely going to call our state Medicaid office first to confirm the exact Pickle Amendment application process before making any trips. The last thing I want is to waste time going to the wrong office when we're already dealing with so many time-sensitive issues. Your advice about potentially needing multiple attempts to get calculation errors corrected is both frustrating and helpful to know upfront. At least I'll be prepared for that possibility instead of being surprised if they don't fix it on the first try. Reading through all these responses has completely changed my approach from feeling helpless to having a concrete action plan. Everyone's experiences have shown me that questioning these decisions and demanding proper documentation isn't being difficult - it's being a good advocate for my daughter. Thank you for adding your insights and encouragement. It really helps to know this community has families' backs when navigating these impossible systems!

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I'm new to this community but wanted to reach out because your story really resonates with me - I'm currently helping my elderly parents navigate similar benefit complications and the amount of conflicting information from different workers is absolutely maddening. What really stands out from reading through all these responses is how many people have discovered calculation errors, particularly with the parental deeming rules when survivor benefits are involved. This gives me so much hope for your situation! The fact that they didn't provide you with a detailed breakdown of their calculations when terminating your daughter's SSI is a huge red flag - as others have mentioned, when agencies are confident in their math, they typically show their work. I'm taking notes from everyone's advice here for my own family's situation: the critical 60-day appeal window, requesting detailed income calculations, contacting Protection & Advocacy organizations, and researching state-specific Pickle Amendment processes. It's overwhelming but having this roadmap from people who've actually been through it is invaluable. One thing that really struck me is how this community has more practical, accurate knowledge than most of the actual SSA workers families are dealing with. That shouldn't be the case, but at least we have each other to share these hard-won insights. Connor, you're being an incredible advocate for your daughter during what must be an incredibly difficult time. Don't let this system's complexity discourage you - it sounds like you now have a solid plan to fight this properly, and there's real reason to hope they made calculation errors that can be corrected. Please keep us posted on how it goes!

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As someone who recently navigated this exact situation, I want to add my voice to confirm what everyone else has said - you absolutely can collect both VA TDIU at 100% and Social Security retirement benefits without any reduction to either. I went through this process about 8 months ago when I turned 65. A couple of things from my experience that might help: **Application timing is crucial** - I applied exactly 3 months before my 65th birthday, but there were still processing delays that pushed my first payment back by about 5 weeks. If you're planning to apply at 65, I'd actually recommend starting the process 4 months early to account for potential delays. **The Medicare decision is more complex than it seems** - When you apply, they'll automatically enroll you in Medicare Part A, but you'll need to actively decide about Part B. Even though VA healthcare covers most things, I ended up enrolling in Part B after talking to other veterans who found it useful as backup. The monthly cost is significant ($175.30 in 2025), but having dual coverage has already paid off when I needed a specialist appointment that had a long VA wait time. **Your work history puts you in great shape** - With 30 years of work before TDIU, you should have an excellent Social Security benefit calculation. I had a similar work history and was pleasantly surprised by my monthly benefit amount. Given your granddaughter's college timeline (sounds like she's still a couple years out), you might want to seriously consider waiting until your FRA at 66 and 2 months. That permanent reduction at 65 really adds up over time, and the extra 14 months of waiting could mean thousands more dollars available during her actual college years when you'll need it most. Best of luck with your decision - having both income streams has been a game-changer for our family's financial security!

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Thank you for sharing such detailed insights from your recent experience! Your point about applying 4 months early instead of 3 is really valuable - those processing delays seem to be a common theme that could catch people off guard if they're not prepared for them. Your experience with Medicare Part B is particularly helpful since that's been something I've been uncertain about. The $175.30 monthly cost feels significant when you're budgeting, but your example of being able to get a specialist appointment quickly when the VA had a long wait really illustrates the practical value of having that backup coverage. It sounds like the peace of mind and flexibility is worth the extra cost. I'm really glad to hear that someone with a similar 30-year work history had a positive surprise with their benefit amount. That gives me a lot of confidence about what to expect when I create my Social Security account online to check my estimated benefits. Your advice about waiting for FRA is resonating more and more as I read everyone's experiences. Since my granddaughter is indeed still about two years from starting college, having that higher monthly benefit available right when her expenses begin seems like it could be the smarter strategy than taking the reduced amount now. The math on that permanent reduction really does add up over time. This thread has been absolutely incredible for helping me think through all these considerations. Thank you for adding your real-world experience to this wealth of helpful information!

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I'm new to this community but have been following this thread closely as I'm approaching a similar situation in about 18 months. The consistency of everyone's experiences here is incredibly reassuring - it's clear that you really can receive both VA TDIU and Social Security retirement benefits without any issues. @Giovanni, your situation sounds very well-positioned with that 30-year work history before TDIU. Based on everything I've read here, waiting until your FRA at 66 and 2 months seems like it could be the optimal strategy, especially since your granddaughter's college timeline gives you some flexibility. That extra 14 months of waiting could translate to significantly more money available right when her college expenses hit hardest. The practical tips everyone has shared about applying 3-4 months early, considering Medicare Part B as backup coverage, checking your earnings history online for accuracy, and using local SSA offices for in-person help are exactly the kind of real-world guidance that makes navigating these systems so much easier. One additional thought - since multiple people have mentioned VA education benefits for dependents, you might want to contact your local VA office specifically about educational assistance programs for grandchildren. Sometimes there are lesser-known benefits that could supplement whatever you're able to contribute from your Social Security. Thank you to everyone who has shared their experiences in this thread. This has been an incredibly educational discussion that will undoubtedly help many veterans facing similar decisions!

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Welcome to the community! As another newcomer, I've found this thread to be an absolute goldmine of practical information. The level of detail and real-world experience shared here is remarkable - from the basic confirmation that you can receive both benefits without reduction, all the way to nuanced advice about application timing, Medicare decisions, and even strategies for maximizing benefits based on family college timelines. @Giovanni, I think @Zoe makes an excellent point about the VA education benefits for dependents - that could be a real game-changer in your financial planning if such programs exist for grandchildren. Even if it's a smaller benefit, every bit helps with college costs these days. What strikes me most about this discussion is how it demonstrates the value of having a community where people share actual experiences rather than just theoretical information. When you're dealing with something as important as retirement planning, having multiple veterans confirm "yes, I've actually done this and here's exactly how it worked" provides a level of confidence you just can't get from reading government websites or generic advice articles. The consensus seems clear that with your work history and timeline, waiting for FRA could be the smart move - especially since it aligns so well with when your granddaughter will actually need college support. Thanks to everyone for creating such a comprehensive resource for veterans navigating these decisions!

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This has been such an incredibly helpful and comprehensive discussion! As someone who's new to this community and just starting to think seriously about Social Security planning, I'm amazed at how much I've learned from everyone's contributions. What started as Ana's specific question about her ex-spouse has turned into a masterclass on Social Security rules, ex-spousal benefits, remarriage implications, and filing strategies. The collective knowledge shared here - from former SSA employees to people who've navigated these situations personally - is invaluable. A few key takeaways that really stood out to me: - SSA doesn't automatically check or notify people about potential benefit increases - Remarriage completely changes ex-spousal benefit eligibility - Early filing creates permanent reductions through "deemed filing" rules - There are so many interconnected factors beyond just your own earnings record I'm particularly grateful for all the practical tips about contacting SSA, the resource recommendations, and the real-world examples everyone shared. This is exactly the kind of community-driven knowledge sharing that helps people make informed decisions about such important financial matters. Ana, I hope you'll follow up after your SSA consultation - even though your original question is resolved, I'm sure there will be insights about your own filing strategy that could benefit others. Thanks for starting such a valuable discussion!

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Welcome to the community! I couldn't agree more about how educational this thread has been. When I first joined this forum a few months ago, I was completely overwhelmed by Social Security rules, but discussions like this one really help break everything down into understandable pieces. Your summary of the key takeaways is spot-on, especially the point about SSA not automatically checking for benefit increases. That seems to be one of the biggest misconceptions people have - assuming the government will just handle everything optimally for you. The reality is you really need to be your own advocate and stay informed about your options. I'm also new to thinking seriously about retirement planning, and what strikes me most is how these decisions aren't just about the numbers - they're about understanding all these interconnected life circumstances and legal rules. The remarriage aspect of Ana's situation is a perfect example of how personal life changes can completely alter your benefit picture. Thanks to everyone who contributed their expertise and experiences. This is exactly why I love this community - real people sharing practical knowledge that you just can't get from reading official publications alone. Looking forward to Ana's update and learning even more from everyone's ongoing discussions!

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Welcome to the community, Javier! I completely agree with your excellent summary of the key takeaways from this discussion. As another newcomer who's been lurking and learning, I'm constantly amazed by how generous everyone is with sharing their knowledge and real-world experiences. What really strikes me about Ana's situation is how it perfectly illustrates why it's so important to get professional guidance even when you think you know the answer. She started with a straightforward question about her ex claiming on her record, but through this discussion discovered that his remarriage makes the whole question moot - plus she's learned about so many other optimization strategies for her own benefits that she might not have considered otherwise. The point about being your own advocate really resonates with me too. It's becoming clear that successful Social Security planning requires actively staying informed and asking the right questions, rather than just assuming the system will work in your favor automatically. I'm definitely bookmarking this thread as a reference - it's like a comprehensive guide to ex-spousal benefits and remarriage rules all in one place. Thanks Ana for sharing your situation and thanks to everyone who contributed their expertise!

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As someone new to this community, I've been following this entire discussion and it's been incredibly enlightening! The level of detail and real-world experience shared here is exactly what I was hoping to find when I joined. What really stands out to me is how Ana's seemingly straightforward question revealed so many layers of complexity in the Social Security system. The remarriage factor completely changing the equation, the deemed filing rules, the fact that SSA doesn't automatically notify people about potential increases - these are all crucial details that aren't immediately obvious when you first start researching benefits. I'm particularly grateful for the practical tips everyone shared about actually contacting SSA (the Claimyr service, timing calls for shorter waits, scheduling in-person consultations). As someone who will need to navigate this system in the coming years, knowing these workarounds for the notorious phone wait times is invaluable. The emphasis on keeping good documentation and understanding all your options before filing really resonates with me too. It's clear that these decisions have long-term consequences and there's often no going back to optimize later. Thanks to everyone who contributed their expertise and experiences - this thread is going to be such a helpful resource for anyone dealing with similar ex-spousal benefit questions or Social Security planning in general!

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Another thing to keep in mind - if you received a large backpay amount, you might want to consider making quarterly estimated tax payments for next year to avoid another surprise tax bill. Since SSDI doesn't automatically withhold taxes like regular employment, many people get caught off guard. You can set up voluntary withholding from your monthly SSDI payments by filling out Form W-4V, or make quarterly payments directly to the IRS. I learned this the hard way after my first year of benefits!

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This is really good advice! I had no idea about Form W-4V for voluntary withholding. After reading everyone's experiences here, it sounds like getting hit with a big tax bill is pretty common with SSDI backpay. I'm definitely going to look into setting up withholding right away so I don't end up in the same situation next year. Thanks for sharing that tip!

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Looking at all the helpful advice here, I wanted to add something that might help with the immediate concern about owing a large tax bill. If you do end up owing more than you can pay when you file, the IRS has several payment options available. You can set up an installment agreement online through their website, and if you owe less than $50,000, you can often get approved automatically for a payment plan. Also, don't panic if the tax calculation seems overwhelming - many tax software programs like TurboTax and H&R Block have specific sections for Social Security benefits and can walk you through the lump-sum election calculation. That said, given the amount of your backpay ($31,500), it's probably still worth investing in a tax professional who specializes in Social Security taxation, especially for this first year. They can make sure you're taking advantage of all available strategies to minimize your tax burden.

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This is such valuable information, thank you! I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed as someone new to all of this - the tax implications weren't something I was prepared for when I was just focused on getting my disability claim approved. It's reassuring to know there are payment plan options if I do end up owing more than I can handle at once. I think I'll definitely go with a tax professional this year given all the complexities everyone has mentioned. Better to invest in getting it done right than to make mistakes and potentially face penalties later. Has anyone here had experience with finding tax preparers who specifically understand SSDI taxation? I want to make sure I find someone who really knows this area.

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As a newcomer to this community, I'm absolutely shocked by how many people have experienced lost mail with SSA! Reading through everyone's stories has been both enlightening and terrifying - I had no idea this was such a widespread problem. The strategies everyone has shared are incredibly valuable though. @dea3190a90ca I'm so glad you were able to get confirmation through fax with just 17 days left! That's cutting it really close but it sounds like you handled it perfectly with the multi-pronged approach. The fax confirmation for immediate peace of mind plus certified mail backup seems like the ideal strategy. I'm definitely taking notes on all these tips - asking for reference numbers, using certified mail for everything important, and knowing that local offices can accept fax submissions for urgent deadlines. It's frustrating that we need all these workarounds in 2025, but this community knowledge is invaluable for those of us just learning to navigate these systems!

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I'm also brand new here and completely overwhelmed by all these stories about lost SSA mail! As someone who hasn't had to deal with Social Security yet, I honestly thought government agencies would have more reliable systems in place. Reading about @dea3190a90ca's close call with the 17-day deadline is nerve-wracking - I can't imagine the stress of not knowing if such an important document made it through! The fax backup strategy seems absolutely brilliant though, and I'm making mental notes about all these workarounds. It's crazy that we need services like Claimyr just to reach someone on the phone, but I'm grateful this community exists to share these hard-earned lessons. Definitely saving this entire thread as a reference guide for when I eventually need to navigate SSA myself. Thanks everyone for being so generous with sharing your experiences and solutions!

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As someone completely new to both this community and Social Security processes, this thread has been an absolute goldmine of information! I'm honestly shocked to learn how frequently mail gets lost at SSA - it's terrifying to think that such critical, time-sensitive documents can just disappear without a trace. The fact that so many of you have developed elaborate backup strategies really speaks to how broken the system is. @dea3190a90ca I'm so relieved you were able to get confirmation through your local office's fax option with only 17 days left! Your approach of using multiple methods (fax for immediate confirmation plus certified mail backup) seems like the perfect strategy for peace of mind. I'm taking detailed notes on all the practical advice shared here - the reference number tip for fax submissions, certified mail protocols, visiting local offices for urgent deadlines, and even that Claimyr service recommendation. It's frustrating that we need all these workarounds in 2025, but I'm incredibly grateful this community exists to share these invaluable strategies with newcomers like me!

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Welcome to the community, and I'm glad you found this thread helpful! I'm also fairly new here and had the exact same reaction when I first learned about these SSA mail issues. It's honestly unbelievable that in 2025 we're still dealing with such unreliable communication methods for something as important as Social Security benefits. Reading through @dea3190a90ca's experience really highlights how crucial it is to have multiple backup plans when dealing with these agencies. The combination of immediate fax confirmation plus certified mail tracking seems to be the gold standard approach based on everyone's experiences here. I'm also bookmarking all these strategies - the reference number requests, local office fax options, and services like Claimyr. It's sad that we need all these workarounds, but the collective wisdom in this community is absolutely invaluable for those of us just starting to navigate these complex systems. Thanks to everyone for sharing their hard-earned knowledge!

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