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Can my wife switch from SSDI to regular retirement with delayed credits at FRA? Getting contradicting info

My wife has been receiving SSDI benefits for about 12 years after a serious car accident. She's approaching her full retirement age (67) next year, and I've been researching what happens next. The OpenSSA calculator suggested she could potentially stop her disability benefits at FRA and then claim regular retirement later with delayed retirement credits. This would increase her monthly amount by 8% per year of delay. However, when we spoke with Mrs. Johnson at our local SSA office yesterday, she told us this was impossible unless my wife paid back ALL disability benefits she's ever received (which would be well over $250,000 at this point). The representative said disability benefits automatically convert to retirement at FRA with no option to defer and receive credits. I've spent hours going through the SSA website and publications but can't find a clear answer about whether SSDI recipients can defer at FRA for increased benefits later. The financial difference would be significant - about $450 more per month if she could delay until 70. Has anyone navigated this transition from disability to retirement? Is the SSA rep correct that there's no way to get delayed credits after being on disability?

Just wanted to update - I called SSA back and specifically asked for a Technical Expert. Had to wait 2 days for a callback, but finally spoke with someone who confirmed what several people here said! After SSDI converts to retirement at FRA, my wife CAN suspend to earn delayed credits until 70. The first representative was completely wrong about having to pay back all disability benefits. They didn't even understand the question correctly. The Technical Expert explained that once benefits convert to retirement, they follow retirement rules, which include voluntary suspension. Thanks everyone for the help! We'll be using this strategy to increase her lifetime benefits.

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So glad you got the correct information! It's amazing how much misinformation gets spread, even by SSA employees who should know better. This will make a big difference in your retirement security. Congratulations!

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thx for updating us! i might have to look into this for my husband now, we had no idea this was possible either

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This is such valuable information! I'm a newcomer to this community and this thread has been incredibly helpful. I'm in a similar situation - my spouse has been on SSDI for about 8 years and will reach FRA in two years. I had no idea that suspension after conversion was even possible. The local SSA office told us the same thing about automatic conversion with no options, but clearly we need to speak with a Technical Expert who actually understands these rules. One question for those who've gone through this - is there any paperwork or documentation you'd recommend keeping during the conversion process? I want to make sure we're prepared when the time comes to request suspension for delayed credits. Thank you all for sharing your experiences and knowledge!

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Will Social Security recalculate my benefits automatically after working part-year before claiming at 62?

I started collecting Social Security retirement benefits in September 2024 at age 62 after working full-time for the first 8 months of the year. Since then, I've been working part-time staying carefully under the monthly earnings limit ($1,840 I think?). I'm wondering when/if my benefit amount will be automatically recalculated to include those additional earnings from 2024? I had some really good income those first 8 months that should boost my benefit amount a bit. Will this happen automatically after I file my 2024 taxes? Or do I need to contact SSA and request a recalculation? I'm not worried about any overpayment issues since I've tracked my monthly earnings religiously - just wondering about getting credit for those months I worked before filing. Thanks for any help!

I'm new to this community and in a very similar situation! I claimed at 62 in November 2024 after working full-time for the first 10 months of the year, and like everyone else here, I've been carefully tracking my part-time earnings to stay under the monthly limits since claiming. This entire thread has been absolutely amazing for understanding the AERO process - I honestly had no idea any of this was automatic! I was starting to stress about whether I needed to contact SSA directly or file additional forms to get credit for those pre-claiming earnings. Reading everyone's detailed experiences has been such a relief. The October 2025 timeline makes perfect sense now that it's been explained how SSA needs all the W-2 data from employers first. And learning about the retroactive payments back to January 2025 is incredible - I had no clue about that aspect at all! What gives me the most hope is hearing from people who had lower-earning years earlier in their careers that got replaced. I definitely have a few years from when I was starting out and later when I took time off to care for my aging mother, so I'm really optimistic that my 2024 wages will bump up my calculation meaningfully. The advice about keeping detailed records and monitoring the online SSA account is so practical. I just created my ssa.gov account last week but haven't really used it yet - clearly I need to start checking it regularly to make sure my 2024 earnings show up correctly. Thanks to everyone who shared their real-world experiences and advice. This community has made what seemed like such a confusing, overwhelming process much more understandable. It's so reassuring to know we're all going through this together!

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I'm new to this community and facing the exact same situation! I claimed at 62 in October 2024 after working full-time for the first 9 months of the year, and I've been so worried about whether those earnings would count toward my benefit calculation. This thread has been absolutely incredible - I had no idea about the AERO process being automatic! I was starting to panic thinking I'd need to call SSA (those wait times sound horrific) or file special paperwork. Learning that it happens automatically in October 2025 with retroactive payments back to January is such a huge relief. What's particularly encouraging is seeing how many people had similar situations with lower-earning years earlier in their careers. I definitely have a few years from when I was just starting out and later when I took extended time off for family caregiving, so I'm cautiously optimistic my 2024 wages will replace at least one of those and give me a meaningful increase. The practical advice about keeping detailed records and regularly checking the online SSA account is invaluable. I just set up my ssa.gov account but haven't really explored it - clearly that needs to be my next priority to monitor when my 2024 earnings get recorded properly. Thanks to everyone for sharing such detailed real-world experiences. This community has transformed what seemed like an overwhelming, mysterious process into something much more manageable and understandable!

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Can I switch from SS survivor benefits at 60 to my own benefits with spousal top-up at 70?

I lost my husband last year and I'm approaching my 60th birthday in a few months. I'm planning to file for survivor benefits once I turn 60, but I'm confused about my options when I get older. My own work record is decent, but my husband earned quite a bit more than me throughout his career. I've heard that I could potentially switch from survivor benefits to my own retirement benefits later on. Would it make sense to take survivor benefits at 60 (even though they'll be reduced), then switch to my own benefits at 70 when they'd be maximized? And if my own benefit is still less than what my husband would have received, can I get a spousal top-off amount on top of my own benefit? I'm trying to plan my finances for the next 10-15 years and this decision makes a huge difference. The SSA website is confusing me and I haven't been able to get through on the phone. Thanks for any insights!

I'm so sorry for your loss, Lindsey. Navigating Social Security decisions during such a difficult time is incredibly overwhelming. I wanted to share something that might help while you're trying to reach SSA - you can create an account on ssa.gov and access your Social Security Statement online, which will show your estimated benefits at different claiming ages. While it won't give you the exact survivor benefit calculations (since that requires your husband's record), it will at least show you what your own retirement benefit would look like at age 70. One thing I learned from my own experience with widow benefits is that timing really matters with the earnings test. If you're planning to work part-time and your income will be close to that $22,320 limit, you might want to consider the timing of when you claim and when you earn that income within the calendar year. Sometimes it's worth adjusting work schedules around benefit claiming to minimize the earnings test impact. Also, don't feel pressured to make this decision immediately when you turn 60. You have flexibility in when you file for survivor benefits - you don't have to claim them the moment you're eligible. Taking a few extra months to get solid information and run the numbers might be worth it for such an important long-term decision. The strategy you're considering is definitely used successfully by many widows, but as everyone has emphasized, the math really depends on your specific situation. Hang in there - you'll figure this out!

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Thank you so much, Andre! That's really helpful advice about creating the online account to at least see my own benefit projections. I'll do that today - it'll give me a better sense of what my age 70 benefit might look like even while I'm waiting to speak with someone about the survivor benefit calculations. Your point about timing is really smart too. I was thinking I had to file right when I turn 60, but you're right that I could take some time to get all the information first. A few months of delay to make sure I understand everything properly could save me from making a costly mistake. The earnings test timing is something I hadn't considered at all - that's a great point about potentially adjusting when I earn income within the year. Since my freelance work is somewhat flexible, that might be something I can plan around. It's such a relief to hear from people who've navigated similar situations successfully. Thank you for taking the time to share your experience and advice. It really does help knowing that others have figured this out!

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Lindsey. Having gone through a similar situation myself, I understand how overwhelming it can be to make these important financial decisions during such a difficult time. One additional resource that might be helpful while you're trying to connect with SSA is your local Social Security office. Sometimes it's easier to schedule an in-person appointment than to get through on the phone. You can find your local office on ssa.gov and many allow you to schedule appointments online now. Also, I wanted to mention something about the strategy you're considering - make sure you understand that if you do switch from survivor benefits to your own retirement benefit at 70, you can't switch back. Once you make that change, you're locked into whichever benefit you choose. So it's really important to be absolutely certain that your own benefit at 70 will indeed be higher than your survivor benefit. The good news is that this strategy has helped many widows maximize their lifetime benefits. Just take your time getting all the information you need to make the best decision for your specific situation. You don't have to rush into anything right when you turn 60. Thinking of you during this challenging time!

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Social Security survivor benefits appointment vs. Lump Sum Death Benefit - will one appointment cover both?

I finally got an appointment with the SSA after my husband passed away last month. It took three days of constant calling to get through, and the earliest they could schedule me is mid-February. The SSA representative I spoke with was actually helpful and went over what my monthly survivor benefit would likely be (around $2,100/month based on my husband's work record). Here's what's confusing me: The confirmation letter I received in the mail only mentions the "Lump Sum Death Benefit" as the appointment topic. Nothing about survivor benefits! The lump sum is only $255, but the monthly survivor benefits are what I really need to get started. Has anyone else had this experience? Will they handle both the lump sum AND set up the monthly survivor benefits during the same appointment? I really don't want to have to schedule another appointment and wait another 2 months just to apply for the regular survivor benefits. I'm already stressed enough dealing with everything else after losing my husband. I'm going to try calling them again to confirm, but wondering if others have been through this and can save me some headache. Thanks for any insight!

One important thing - if you're under Full Retirement Age and still working, make sure to discuss the earnings limit with them ($22,320 for 2025). If you earn over that limit, they'll reduce your survivor benefits by $1 for every $2 you earn above the limit. They should cover this in the appointment, but if they don't, make sure to ask about it specifically if it applies to your situation.

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That's really helpful information. I'm 58 and still working part-time, so this definitely applies to me. I'll make sure to discuss this specifically.

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Sofia. I went through this exact same situation about 8 months ago when my mom passed away. The appointment letter wording is confusing, but everyone here is right - they handle both the lump sum AND the monthly survivor benefits in the same visit. One thing I'd add to the great advice already given: if you're feeling overwhelmed during the appointment (which is totally normal), don't hesitate to ask them to slow down or repeat something. The SSA representative I worked with was very patient and understanding about the emotional state I was in. They're used to dealing with people who are grieving and trying to process a lot of information at once. Also, if possible, consider bringing a trusted friend or family member with you for support and as a second set of ears. Sometimes having someone else there to help remember details can be really helpful. Take care of yourself during this difficult time.

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Will my final paycheck count against SS earnings limit if paid after retirement date?

I'm planning to start my Social Security retirement benefits on April 1, 2025, even though my FRA isn't until September 2026. I know I'll be subject to the earnings limit (looks like about $2450/month for 2025) since I'm taking benefits early. Here's my question - I'm going to quit my full-time job on March 25, 2025, but my final paycheck won't arrive until April 8, 2025. For the Social Security earnings test, does this final paycheck count toward March (when I actually worked) or April (when I received the money)? Also, since my birthday is on the 15th, am I right that my first SS payment for April would arrive on the third Wednesday of May (May 21)? And then all future payments would be on the third Wednesday of each month? I'm trying to avoid any surprises with the earnings test. Thanks for any help!

As someone who just went through this process myself, I can confirm what others have said - SSA counts wages when earned, not when paid. I retired in February but got my last paycheck in March, and it counted for February earnings. One thing I'd add that might help - when you call to report your estimated earnings for 2025, ask them to send you a written confirmation of what they have on file. I learned this the hard way when there was a discrepancy later and having that documentation saved me weeks of back-and-forth. Also, since you're planning to work part-time after April, consider asking SSA about the "special monthly test" for your first year of retirement. It can be really helpful if you have any months where you earn less than the monthly limit, even if your total yearly earnings would put you over the annual limit. Good luck with your transition to retirement!

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This has been such a helpful thread! As someone who's been navigating Social Security for a few years now, I wanted to add one more tip that might be useful for anyone taking benefits before FRA. If you're planning to work part-time after starting benefits, consider setting up a my Social Security account online at ssa.gov if you haven't already. You can report changes in your work status and estimated earnings through the portal, which is often faster than calling. Plus, you can download copies of all your correspondence with SSA, which gives you that paper trail everyone's been talking about. Also, the online account shows your payment history and any adjustments, so you can catch discrepancies early rather than waiting for an annual notice. It's been a lifesaver for me in staying on top of everything! The special monthly test information shared here is gold - I wish I had known about that when I first retired. It really can make a huge difference in that first year.

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That's excellent advice about setting up the online account! I just created mine last week and it's so much easier than trying to call. One thing I'd add - if you do use the online portal to report earnings changes, make sure to screenshot or print the confirmation page. I learned this from dealing with other government agencies where things sometimes don't get properly recorded even when you submit them online. Having that proof of submission can save you a lot of headaches if there's ever a question about when you reported something. Thanks for sharing that tip about being able to download correspondence - I didn't know that feature existed!

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