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Welcome to the community, Emma! I'm glad you found this information helpful. Just wanted to add one more thing to consider - since you're planning to wait until 70, make sure you sign up for Medicare at 65 even though you won't be taking Social Security yet. Medicare enrollment is separate from Social Security benefits, and you could face penalties if you delay Medicare without qualifying employer coverage. Also, consider doing annual reviews of your Social Security statement to make sure your earnings are being recorded correctly, especially in these final high-earning years before retirement. Any errors now could affect your benefit calculation later. You can check this easily through your MySocialSecurity account. Best of luck with your retirement planning! It sounds like you're making a smart financial decision by waiting to maximize your benefits.

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Great point about Medicare! I hadn't even thought about that being separate from Social Security. I'm definitely still working and have good employer health coverage, but I'll make sure to research the Medicare enrollment rules as I get closer to 65. And yes, I've been checking my earnings record annually - learned that lesson the hard way when I found an error from 2019 that took months to fix. Thanks for the warm welcome to the community!

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I just want to echo what others have said about the Medicare enrollment - it's so important! I made the mistake of thinking I could delay Medicare along with Social Security and ended up with a penalty that I'm still paying. Even if you have employer coverage, you'll want to understand the rules about creditable coverage and whether your plan qualifies. One resource that really helped me was the Medicare.gov website - they have a tool called "Get Ready for Medicare" that walks you through the timing. Since you're planning to work until 65 and then wait until 70 for Social Security, you'll definitely want to map out your Medicare strategy separately. Also, since you mentioned having trouble getting through to SSA on the phone, you might try visiting your local Social Security office if phone wait times are too long. Sometimes it's easier to get specific benefit estimates and scenarios explained in person, especially for complex situations like yours with the ex-spousal benefit comparison.

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Thank you for mentioning the local Social Security office option! I hadn't considered going in person, but you're right that it might be easier than trying to get through on the phone. I'll definitely look into scheduling an appointment at my local office to get a personalized benefit estimate and confirm my strategy. The Medicare advice is really valuable too. I'll check out that "Get Ready for Medicare" tool on Medicare.gov. It's good to know I need to think about Medicare enrollment separately from Social Security - I was definitely assuming they went together automatically. This community has been incredibly helpful in clarifying all these complex rules. I feel much more confident about my retirement planning now!

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I'm really sorry you're dealing with this stressful situation. As a newcomer to this community, I've been reading through all the excellent advice here and wanted to add one perspective I haven't seen mentioned yet. Since your wife just lost her employer life insurance due to downsizing, you might want to act quickly on getting new coverage. If her job loss was recent, she's probably still in relatively good health for underwriting purposes, but sometimes the stress of unemployment or financial worry can affect health over time. Getting quotes and applying for new coverage sooner rather than later could be beneficial. Also, while everyone's focused on the amount of coverage (which the $800k-1M+ recommendations seem very reasonable), don't forget to consider the insurance company's financial stability ratings. With coverage this large, you want to make sure the insurer will be around and financially sound when benefits might be needed years from now. The systematic approach you've outlined based on everyone's advice sounds perfect - create the Social Security account, get those personalized benefit estimates, and then shop comprehensively for coverage. You're clearly being very thoughtful about protecting your family's future. I hope you never need to use any of this planning, but having it in place will definitely provide peace of mind.

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Welcome to the community! That's such an important point about acting quickly while your wife is still in good health for underwriting. The stress of job loss and financial uncertainty can definitely impact health over time, so getting the application process started soon makes a lot of sense. I hadn't thought about the insurance company's financial stability ratings either - with coverage this large and potentially needed many years down the road, making sure the insurer will still be solvent and able to pay claims is crucial. Thanks for bringing up these practical considerations that I might have overlooked while focusing on coverage amounts. It's clear this community has people with experience from all different angles of this complex topic.

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I'm really sorry you're having to plan for such a difficult scenario, especially with the added stress of your wife's recent job loss. As someone new to this community, I've been learning a lot from reading through all the detailed responses here. One thing I wanted to add that I haven't seen mentioned is the importance of considering your own survivor benefits planning as well. While you're focused on protecting your family if something happens to your wife (which is absolutely the right priority), don't forget that if something happened to you, your wife would face the challenge of being the sole provider for three children. Since she's currently unemployed due to the downsizing, this might actually be a good time to review both of your life insurance coverage comprehensively. Many families focus on insuring the primary breadwinner but underestimate the financial impact of losing the secondary earner, especially when there are childcare and household management considerations. The systematic approach you've outlined - creating the my Social Security account, getting personalized benefit estimates, and shopping for comprehensive coverage in that $800k-1M+ range - sounds exactly right based on all the expertise shared here. The fact that you're being so proactive about this planning shows you're really looking out for your family's future security. I hope your wife's job search goes well and that you never need to use any of this survivor benefits knowledge, but having solid planning in place will definitely give your whole family peace of mind during this transition period.

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Welcome to the community! That's such an excellent point about reviewing both of our coverage comprehensively. You're absolutely right that I've been so focused on protecting against the loss of my wife's income that I hadn't really thought through what would happen to her and the kids if something happened to me instead, especially now that she's unemployed. The timing aspect you mentioned is really smart too - while she's between jobs and we're already going through this planning process, it makes sense to evaluate both of our coverage needs rather than just focusing on one scenario. Thanks for that broader perspective - it's exactly the kind of comprehensive thinking that will help us make sure our family is truly protected from all angles. I'll make sure to include reviewing my own coverage amounts in our weekend planning session.

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I'm dealing with a similar situation right now and this thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm 64 and took early retirement last year, but recently developed chronic kidney disease that's progressing rapidly. My nephrologist says I'll likely need dialysis within the next 6 months, which would make working impossible. Reading about the disability freeze and potential benefit increase gives me hope that I might have options. Has anyone here dealt specifically with kidney disease for SSDI approval? I'm wondering if conditions that worsen over time (rather than sudden onset) face different challenges in the approval process.

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I'm sorry to hear about your kidney disease diagnosis. Progressive conditions like CKD can actually be easier to document for SSDI purposes because there's typically a clear medical timeline showing deterioration. The SSA has specific listings for chronic kidney disease (Section 6.02) that include criteria for creatinine clearance levels and need for dialysis. Your nephrologist's documentation will be crucial - make sure they document your current kidney function levels, prognosis, and how the condition limits your daily activities and work capacity. Since you're still under your FRA, you're in a good position to apply. The key is establishing that your kidney disease reached disabling levels before you reach full retirement age. Keep all your lab results and specialist reports - they'll be essential evidence for your case.

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Jessica, I wanted to add to what Amaya shared - kidney disease cases often have good outcomes with SSDI because the medical evidence is so objective. My brother-in-law went through this process two years ago when his kidney function dropped below 30%. The key things that helped his case were: 1) Regular lab work showing declining GFR over time, 2) Documentation from his nephrologist about fatigue and other symptoms affecting his work capacity, and 3) Records showing he was placed on the transplant waiting list. Since you're already working with a nephrologist who can document the progression, you're in a much better position than people trying to prove subjective pain conditions. The fact that dialysis is anticipated actually strengthens your case significantly - SSA recognizes dialysis as automatically disabling under their listings. Don't wait too long to apply though, since you need to establish the disability onset before your FRA. Good luck!

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I've been following this discussion as someone who went through a similar process recently. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the importance of timing your application strategically. Since you're already 65 and receiving reduced retirement benefits, you have a limited window to apply for SSDI before reaching your full retirement age (which sounds like it's 66 and 6 months for you). What really helped in my case was filing the SSDI application as soon as possible after my diagnosis, even while I was still gathering medical records. SSA allows you to submit additional evidence after filing, but they can't backdate your application beyond when you actually filed. Given that you mentioned your health has "gotten much worse" since starting retirement benefits, you'll want to establish a clear timeline showing when your conditions became disabling. Also, don't be discouraged if you get conflicting information from different SSA representatives - this is unfortunately common with these crossover cases between retirement and disability. The policy is clear that you can apply, but not all front-line staff are familiar with these more complex situations. Stay persistent and document everything!

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This is such valuable advice about the timing aspect! I'm actually in a very similar boat - turned 65 recently and started getting reduced retirement benefits, but my health situation has deteriorated significantly since then. Reading through all these responses has been eye-opening because I honestly didn't even know this was an option. The part about not all SSA staff being familiar with these crossover cases really resonates - I called twice last month and got completely different answers from different representatives. One told me it was impossible, another said "maybe" but couldn't explain how it would work. It sounds like I need to be more persistent and maybe ask specifically to speak with someone who handles disability applications rather than just general customer service. Thank you for emphasizing the importance of filing quickly even while gathering records - I was thinking I needed everything perfect before applying but that could cost me precious time!

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One important clarification about ex-spouse benefits that sometimes confuses people: applying for benefits on your ex's record does NOT reduce their benefits or notify them that you've applied. This is a common concern, but your application is completely confidential. Your ex won't know you've applied or be affected financially.

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Oh thank goodness! I was actually worried about that but didn't want to ask. Our divorce wasn't exactly friendly and I really don't want him to know anything about my finances or retirement plans.

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Just wanted to add from my recent experience - I was in a similar situation last year and ended up doing the online application first, then when it asked for documents I chose to mail them. Here's what worked for me: I made copies of my certified divorce decree and marriage certificate, wrote a cover letter with my full name, SSN, and reference to my online application, and sent everything via certified mail with return receipt. It took about 2 weeks but they processed everything fine. The key is making sure you have CERTIFIED copies from the court, not just notarized photocopies. Also, start the online application even if you're not sure about the documents - you can always complete that part later and it gets your case in the system. Good luck with your retirement!

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This is really helpful, thank you! I like the idea of starting the online application first to get in the system. Quick question - when you say "certified copies from the court," did you have to go back to the courthouse where you got divorced to get new certified copies? Or were the ones you already had sufficient? I have certified copies from when the divorce was finalized 12 years ago, but I'm wondering if they need to be recent or if older certified copies are still valid.

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Does anyone know if the Social Security office tells u all this stuff when u go in for an appointment? I want to retire next year but so confused about all these rules!!

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In my experience, yes, a Social Security representative should explain all these details during an appointment. However, they're often very busy, so I recommend doing research beforehand and bringing specific questions. You can also create a my Social Security account online to check your estimated benefits and eligibility dates.

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I went through this exact same situation last year! Born in June 1958 as well, so I can share what actually happened. Your FRA is definitely 66 years and 8 months, which means February 18, 2025 for you. I applied in November 2023 (about 3 months early) and my first payment came in March 2024 on the third Wednesday as expected - no delays because I applied early enough. One thing that really helped me was setting up my online Social Security account beforehand to track the application status. Also, make sure you have all your documents ready - W-2s, tax returns, birth certificate, etc. The application process was actually smoother than I expected when I was prepared. The key is definitely applying early. I saw friends who waited until their birthday month and then had to deal with processing delays and gaps in income. You're smart to plan ahead!

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Yes, having the online account set up beforehand definitely streamlined things! You can see your estimated monthly benefit amount, your earnings history, and even start the application online. For documents, I was able to upload digital copies for most things, but they did mail me a form requesting physical verification for a couple items later. One thing that surprised me was they asked detailed questions about any pension plans from employers - make sure you have that information handy. Also, if you've ever been married (even if divorced), they'll need those details too since it can affect benefit calculations. The whole process took about 6 weeks from application to approval, and then my first payment arrived exactly when they said it would. Having everything organized upfront really made a difference!

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This is incredibly reassuring to hear from someone who went through the exact same situation! I'm Isabella, the original poster, and your timeline gives me so much confidence. I was getting worried about all the stories of delays and gaps in payments, but it sounds like applying 3 months early really is the key. I'm definitely going to start setting up my online Social Security account this week and begin gathering all those documents you mentioned. The pension question is a good heads up - I do have a small 401k from a previous employer that I'll need information on. One more question if you don't mind - when you got your first payment in March, was it the full amount you were expecting based on your online estimate? I want to make sure my budget projections are realistic. Thanks again for sharing such detailed and helpful information!

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