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My father passed away on November 3rd and I'm trying to figure out what to do about his Social Security payment. I notified SSA about his death on November 8th, but his regular monthly SS benefit was still deposited on November 13th. I thought they would automatically reverse the payment, but it's still sitting in his account three weeks later. The bank knows he's deceased (I provided the death certificate), but they haven't done anything about the SS payment either. Should I call SSA again? I don't want to get in trouble for having a payment he wasn't entitled to, but I also don't want to spend hours on hold if this is normal procedure. Has anyone dealt with this situation?
I'm turning 62 next month and trying to figure out if I should start claiming my Social Security benefits now or wait. The big question I have is about my husband's income. He makes about $80k per year and plans to work until he reaches his full retirement age at 67 (he's 61 now). I volunteer full-time running a 501c3 food pantry network, but I don't take any salary - it's 100% volunteer work. I keep reading about this earnings limit where you can't make more than $22,320 in 2025 if you claim before your full retirement age. But I'm confused - does this only apply to MY personal earnings, or does my husband's income count against this limit since we file taxes jointly? I'm the secondary earner in our household (I worked part-time for many years while raising our kids). Will they reduce my SS benefits because of my husband's income? Or are they only concerned with what I personally earn? I don't want to claim early if they're just going to take most of it away because he's still working. The tax stuff confuses me too. Any help appreciated!
Great questions! I went through a similar decision process a few years ago. One thing that really helped me was using the Social Security Administration's online benefit estimator (ssa.gov/benefits/retirement/estimator.html) to see exactly what my benefit would be at different claiming ages. Since you mentioned you were the secondary earner working part-time, definitely look into whether spousal benefits might be higher than your own work record. The general rule is you get the higher of: your own benefit OR up to 50% of your husband's full retirement age benefit (if you wait until your FRA to claim spousal). Also consider this timing strategy: if your husband delays his retirement past his FRA (up to age 70), his benefit grows by 8% per year. This not only increases his monthly benefit but also increases the potential survivor benefit for you later. Sometimes it makes sense for the higher earner to delay while the lower earner claims at FRA. The tax situation with his $80k income is definitely something to factor in, but don't let it be the only deciding factor. Even if 85% of your benefit is subject to tax, you're still keeping a significant portion of it.
Just wanted to add another perspective from someone who made the decision to wait! I was in a similar boat at 62 - husband still working, making good money, and I was volunteering with our local literacy program. I agonized over the same questions you're asking. I ultimately decided to wait until my FRA at 67, and I'm really glad I did. The extra 5 years gave me time to really understand all the nuances people are discussing here. Plus, when I finally did claim, my monthly benefit was about 43% higher than what it would have been at 62. The taxation issue with your husband's income is real, but here's something to consider: his income will likely be lower once he retires, which could reduce the percentage of your SS benefits subject to tax. If you wait to claim until around the same time he retires, you might avoid some of those higher tax brackets entirely. Also, I found the SSA's "my Social Security" online account invaluable for tracking my estimated benefits at different claiming ages. Much easier than trying to get through on the phone! You can create one at ssa.gov if you haven't already. Your volunteer work with the food pantries sounds incredibly meaningful - that kind of purpose can make the wait feel more worthwhile too.
I'm officially retiring next month after working part-time the past decade. I submitted my Social Security retirement application on February 15th, requesting benefits to start in May 2025. My concern is that my 2024 earnings aren't showing up yet in my Social Security work history online. Since I've only worked in the US for 28 years total (immigrated when I was 37), I understand every year of earnings helps increase my benefit calculation. Will SSA automatically include my 2024 earnings in my initial benefit calculation? Or will they start me at a lower payment amount and then adjust it later once my W-2 is processed? I'm worried about budgeting accurately if there might be a significant difference between my initial payments and what I'll eventually receive. Has anyone dealt with this timing issue before?
my sister said that she called them when this happened to her and they told her she couldn't do anything but wait. i think its just how the system works
I'm going through the exact same situation right now! Filed in January for benefits starting April 2025, and my 2024 earnings aren't showing up online either. After reading everyone's experiences here, it sounds like the automatic adjustment is pretty reliable - just takes time. I'm budgeting conservatively based on my current benefit estimate and treating any future increase as a bonus. The peace of mind is worth more than stressing over the exact timing. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences, it really helps to know this is normal!
I'm a bit confused and concerned about how earnings get reported to Social Security. My daughter and son-in-law both work for the same company (a medium-sized healthcare provider) and they just checked their earnings records on the Social Security website. For 2024, they're each only showing three-figure earnings ($875 and $963) when they've both earned well into five and six figures already this year! Shouldn't their 2024 earnings on the SS website reflect at least the first two quarters of the year by now? I thought employers reported wages quarterly. My daughter is especially worried because she's been there for 3 years and needs these earnings to count toward her future benefits. Anyone know how often these records get updated and if there's a significant lag? Or should they be contacting their HR department about this? I don't want them to miss out on credit for their full earnings.
Thank you everyone for the helpful responses! I'm much less worried now. I'll let my daughter and SIL know this is normal and that they should check again in mid-2025 to make sure their 2024 earnings show up correctly. It really would be nice if the SS website explained this delay more clearly instead of just showing such obviously incorrect numbers without any explanation!
I totally understand the confusion! This is actually one of the most common questions people have about their Social Security records. The key thing to remember is that SSA operates on a completely different timeline than what most people expect. Your daughter and son-in-law's situation is 100% normal. Those small amounts showing for 2024 could be from early in the year before they started their current jobs, or even partial reporting from their employer's payroll system. The bulk of their 2024 earnings won't appear until SSA processes all the W-2 forms next year. I'd recommend they bookmark their SSA accounts and check again around May or June 2025 - that's typically when you'll see the previous year's earnings fully updated. And definitely keep those pay stubs just in case there are any discrepancies down the road!
I'm turning 62 next month and planning to claim my Social Security retirement benefits early, but I have a 14-year-old son and 12-year-old daughter who would qualify for dependent benefits. I'm confused about how the family maximum limit works in this situation. Specifically, I need to know if the family maximum is calculated based on: 1) My reduced early retirement benefit amount (claiming at 62) 2) What my benefit would have been at my full retirement age (67) Also, will my children's dependent benefits be calculated off my reduced benefit amount or what I would have received at FRA? My estimated benefit at 62 is about $1,780/month, while at FRA it would be around $2,600/month. This makes a big difference for our household budget since we're relying on these funds for my son's medical expenses. My ex-wife has never worked enough quarters to qualify for SS benefits, so we're counting on my record for the kids. I've been on hold with SSA for hours over multiple days and can't get a clear answer. Thanks in advance for any help!
To address your specific questions more precisely: 1. Family Maximum Calculation: This is based on your Primary Insurance Amount (PIA) - which is your benefit at Full Retirement Age - NOT your reduced early retirement benefit. This is established in SSA regulations under 20 CFR § 404.403. 2. Children's Benefits Calculation: Each child is eligible for up to 50% of your PIA, but since you're claiming early, their benefits are proportionally reduced based on your actual benefit amount. Here's a simplified example using your numbers: - Your PIA (FRA benefit): $2,600 - Your reduced benefit at 62: $1,780 (about 68.5% of PIA) - Each child's benefit would be: 50% × $1,780 = $890 The family maximum might be around 175% of your PIA, so approximately $4,550. The total family benefits ($1,780 + $890 + $890 = $3,560) would be under this maximum, so no additional reductions would apply. I recommend requesting a detailed benefits calculation from SSA for your specific situation.
Thank you for breaking it down like this! This makes much more sense now. If I'm understanding correctly, my early filing reduces my own benefit AND my children's benefits, but the family maximum ceiling is still calculated on the higher FRA amount. Is there any advantage to me waiting until FRA given that my kids will age out before I reach 67 anyway? My son will turn 18 in 4 years, and my daughter in 6 years.
To answer your follow-up question: Since your children will age out of eligibility before you reach your FRA at 67, there might not be a significant advantage to waiting if your primary concern is maximizing their benefits. By claiming at 62, you'll receive your reduced benefit of $1,780, and each child will receive approximately $890. If you waited until FRA, you'd get the full $2,600, and they'd each get $1,300, but they would receive these higher amounts for fewer years or not at all depending on exactly when they turn 18 (or 19 if still in high school). Given your son's medical expenses, claiming early might make more financial sense for your family's current needs. Just be aware that your own benefit will remain permanently reduced even after your children are no longer receiving benefits.
this is why SS is so hard!!! so many factors to consider!! and dont forget they stop benefits at 18 unless the kid is still in highschool, then it goes to 19 i think? but then you have college costs to think about too!!
This is really helpful advice! I'm leaning toward claiming early given our situation. Just want to clarify one more thing - when you say the children's benefits stop at 18 (or 19 if in high school), does that mean they automatically stop, or do I need to notify SSA? Also, if my son is planning to go to college, there's no way to extend benefits for that, right? I know some other countries do this but wasn't sure about the US system.
Anastasia Romanov
my friend just went through this... she said if you wait too long they might put a freeze on your dads account and then its a huge headache to sort out. def call them soon
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Chloe Wilson
AuthorI'll call tomorrow for sure. I definitely don't want any additional complications with his accounts.
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Cameron Black
I'm sorry for your loss, Chloe. I went through something similar when my grandmother passed away last year. The key thing is to act quickly - don't wait for SSA to figure it out on their own. From my experience, here's what worked: Call the SSA customer service line early in the morning (around 8 AM) when wait times are shorter. Have your father's SSN, date of death, and the bank account information ready. They'll walk you through the exact process for returning the payment. In my case, they sent a form to the bank that authorized the return of the funds. The whole process took about 10 days once I made the call. Don't stress too much - this happens frequently and they have a standard procedure for handling it. Just make sure you don't spend or move that money until it's resolved.
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