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One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the "do over" rule that might be relevant to your situation. If you claim at 62 and later realize it wasn't the best decision, you have 12 months from your first benefit payment to withdraw your application and pay back all the benefits you received (without interest). This gives you a one-time chance to restart at a later age with a higher benefit. This might be worth considering given your uncertainty. You could claim at 62, see how the taxes actually affect your household budget with real numbers instead of estimates, and then decide within that first year whether to continue or withdraw and wait until your FRA. Also, since you're doing volunteer work managing a food pantry network, you might want to check if your organization offers any retirement planning resources or if there are any tax advantages related to your volunteer work that could offset some of the taxation on your Social Security benefits. Some volunteer-related expenses can be deducted if you itemize. The key is getting your actual benefit estimate from SSA and running the real numbers for your specific situation rather than relying on general rules of thumb.

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This "do over" rule is fascinating - I had no idea that option existed! That actually makes claiming at 62 feel less risky since there's potentially a way to reverse the decision if it doesn't work out as expected. Do you know if there are any restrictions on using this withdrawal option? Like, can you only do it once in your lifetime, or are there income limits that would prevent someone from being eligible? The point about volunteer-related tax deductions is also really interesting. I do have some out-of-pocket expenses for the food pantry work - mileage, supplies I purchase personally, etc. I've never itemized before since we usually take the standard deduction, but it might be worth exploring if those deductions could help offset some of the tax impact on Social Security benefits. Thanks for bringing up these options I hadn't considered! It's making me feel more confident about having multiple pathways forward rather than feeling locked into whatever decision I make initially.

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Yes, the withdrawal option (officially called "Request for Withdrawal of Application") can only be used once in your lifetime, and you must pay back every penny you received including any benefits paid to family members on your record. There's no income restriction, but you do need to be able to afford the full repayment. Regarding volunteer expenses - definitely worth exploring! The IRS allows deductions for unreimbursed expenses while volunteering for qualifying nonprofits. This includes mileage (currently 14 cents per mile for charitable driving), supplies, uniforms, and other out-of-pocket costs. Since your food pantry network is a 501c3, your expenses should qualify. Even if the total doesn't exceed the standard deduction amount when combined with other itemized deductions, it's good to track these expenses anyway for future years when your tax situation might change. Keep detailed records - mileage logs, receipts for supplies, etc. You might be surprised how much it adds up over a full year of volunteer work!

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Just wanted to add another perspective from someone who made the decision to wait! I was in a similar boat at 62 - husband still working, making good money, and I was volunteering with our local literacy program. I agonized over the same questions you're asking. I ultimately decided to wait until my FRA at 67, and I'm really glad I did. The extra 5 years gave me time to really understand all the nuances people are discussing here. Plus, when I finally did claim, my monthly benefit was about 43% higher than what it would have been at 62. The taxation issue with your husband's income is real, but here's something to consider: his income will likely be lower once he retires, which could reduce the percentage of your SS benefits subject to tax. If you wait to claim until around the same time he retires, you might avoid some of those higher tax brackets entirely. Also, I found the SSA's "my Social Security" online account invaluable for tracking my estimated benefits at different claiming ages. Much easier than trying to get through on the phone! You can create one at ssa.gov if you haven't already. Your volunteer work with the food pantries sounds incredibly meaningful - that kind of purpose can make the wait feel more worthwhile too.

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Chloe. I went through this exact situation when my uncle passed away in September. The key thing that helped me was calling SSA's automated phone system outside of peak hours - I had success calling around 7 PM on a weekday evening. The automated system can actually handle simple benefit inquiries and death notifications without needing to speak to a live person initially. When you do speak with someone, make sure to ask them to note in your father's file that you've reported the posthumous payment and are awaiting instructions for return. This creates a paper trail showing you were proactive about reporting it, which protects you if there are any delays in the return process. Also, ask the bank to place a hold or note on that specific deposit so it doesn't accidentally get mixed in with other account activity. Most banks are familiar with this situation and can flag SSA deposits separately until they receive return authorization. The whole thing took about 3 weeks for me, but having that documentation helped avoid any complications. You're handling this the right way by addressing it quickly.

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Thank you so much for the tip about calling in the evening, Simon! I hadn't thought about using off-peak hours to get through easier. That's really smart advice about asking them to note everything in my father's file too - creating that paper trail makes a lot of sense for protection. I'll definitely ask the bank to put a hold on that specific deposit when I call them. It sounds like you really thought through all the angles when you dealt with this situation. I feel much better prepared now thanks to everyone's advice here.

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Chloe. I went through this exact situation when my mother passed away two years ago. The most important thing is to call SSA immediately - don't wait for them to figure it out on their own. When my mom died, I made the mistake of assuming they would automatically handle it, and it created a much bigger headache months later when they discovered the overpayment during an audit. Here's what worked for me: Call the SSA number (1-800-772-1213) first thing in the morning around 8 AM when wait times are shorter. Tell them you need to report a "posthumous benefit payment" that needs to be returned. Have your father's SSN, death date, and bank account info ready. They'll send authorization directly to the bank to return the funds. The key is getting everything documented - write down the representative's name and any reference numbers they give you. This protects you from any future complications. The whole process usually takes 1-2 weeks once you make that initial call. You're being smart by addressing this proactively rather than ignoring it.

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Thank you so much for sharing your experience and I'm sorry for your loss as well. Your point about not waiting for them to figure it out automatically really resonates - that was exactly my concern about just leaving it alone. It sounds like calling at 8 AM is the consensus from everyone here for getting through quickly. I'm definitely going to document everything carefully like you suggest. It's reassuring to hear that the 1-2 week timeline seems consistent across everyone's experiences. I really appreciate you and everyone else taking the time to help me navigate this during what's already a difficult time.

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As someone who recently went through this exact same worry with my own adult children, I completely understand your concern! It's so nerve-wracking when you see those tiny numbers instead of what you know should be substantial earnings. What really helped ease my mind was learning that Social Security operates more like an annual archive system rather than a real-time tracking system. Think of it this way - your daughter and son-in-law's 2024 earnings are essentially "in transit" right now. Their employer is collecting and tracking everything properly (as evidenced by the FICA deductions on their paystubs), but SSA won't receive and process that information until the W-2 forms are filed early next year. Those small amounts showing up are probably from earlier in 2024 - maybe from different employers, temporary work, or even partial reporting. The key thing is that their 2023 earnings are showing correctly, which tells you the system is working as intended. I'd suggest having them check their most recent paystubs to confirm Social Security taxes are being withheld (should be 6.2% of their wages), and then just wait patiently for the 2025 update cycle. It's frustrating how long it takes, but the system has been consistently reliable for decades - just slow!

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Thank you so much for this thoughtful response! The "annual archive system" analogy really helps me understand what's happening. I love how you described their earnings as being "in transit" - that makes it feel much less worrying than thinking something might be wrong with the reporting. I just had them both check their most recent paystubs and confirmed that Social Security taxes are definitely being withheld at the correct 6.2% rate, so that's reassuring. It's funny how as parents we worry about these financial systems working properly for our kids, even when they're adults! Your point about the system being "consistently reliable for decades - just slow" really puts it in perspective. I guess I'm just used to everything being instant these days. We'll definitely wait for that 2025 update cycle and stop checking obsessively in the meantime!

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I just wanted to add one more reassuring perspective as someone who's been through this anxiety cycle multiple times! When I first started checking my SSA earnings record about 10 years ago, I had the exact same panic seeing almost nothing for the current year. I actually drove to my local Social Security office and waited in line for 2 hours just to ask about it! The representative was very patient and explained that this is literally their most frequently asked question. She told me that the SSA website gets thousands of calls and visits every year from people worried about missing current-year earnings, when in reality everything is working exactly as designed. What I've learned over the years is to treat checking my SSA earnings record like an annual ritual - I do it once each summer to verify the PREVIOUS year posted correctly, and I completely ignore what shows (or doesn't show) for the current year. This approach has saved me so much unnecessary stress! Your daughter and son-in-law are being incredibly responsible by monitoring their records. Most people don't even know they can check online! They're building great financial habits that will serve them well throughout their careers.

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This is such a comforting story! I can totally picture myself doing the exact same thing - driving to the SSA office and waiting for hours just to get peace of mind about something that's completely normal. It's actually hilarious (in a reassuring way) that this is their most frequently asked question. Your "annual ritual" approach is brilliant - checking once a summer for the previous year and ignoring the current year completely. I'm definitely going to adopt this strategy and share it with my daughter and son-in-law. It's so much better than the stress cycle of checking every few weeks and panicking about incomplete data. Thank you for taking the time to share your experience. It really helps to hear from someone who's been through this exact worry and come out the other side with a systematic approach. I feel so much more confident now about how all of this works!

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As someone who just started receiving benefits last year, I can confirm what others are saying about the automatic adjustment process. My 2023 earnings took about 6 months to get processed and added to my benefit calculation. The frustrating part is that there's really no way to speed it up - it's just a waiting game. But the good news is that when the adjustment finally came through, I received all the back pay from when my benefits started. Since you only have 28 years of earnings, that 2024 income will definitely help your calculation more than someone who already has 35+ years. I'd recommend keeping detailed records of your 2024 earnings just in case you need to provide documentation later, though in most cases the W-2 data flows through automatically. Hang in there - the system works, it's just painfully slow!

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This is really reassuring to hear from someone who just went through this! Six months does seem like a long time to wait, but knowing that the back pay comes through makes it much more manageable. I appreciate the tip about keeping detailed records of my 2024 earnings - I'll make sure to save copies of my pay stubs and W-2 when it arrives. It's good to know that having fewer than 35 years of earnings means my 2024 income will likely have a bigger impact on my benefit calculation. Thanks for sharing your experience and the encouragement!

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Just wanted to add my perspective as someone who works in benefits administration (not SSA, but similar systems). The timing issue you're experiencing is actually built into how these systems work - they have to use the earnings data available at the time of calculation. What's reassuring is that SSA has very robust reconciliation processes specifically because of situations like yours. The AERO process that Omar mentioned is designed to catch exactly these cases where additional earnings would increase someone's benefit. Given that you have 28 years of earnings rather than the full 35, your 2024 income will almost certainly boost your monthly payment since it's replacing a zero-earning year in the calculation. The wait is frustrating, but the system is actually pretty good at eventually getting everyone the correct amount they're entitled to. Keep monitoring your online account and don't hesitate to call if you don't see the adjustment by late fall.

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I went through this exact situation with my two kids when I claimed at 62 three years ago. Here's what actually happened in practice: The SSA calculated my family maximum based on my PIA (full retirement benefit), which was about 175% of that amount. But since I claimed early, both my benefit AND my kids' benefits were reduced proportionally. Each child got 50% of my reduced benefit, not 50% of my PIA. One thing nobody mentioned yet - make sure you apply for your children's benefits at the same time you apply for yours. They can't get retroactive benefits beyond when you first became eligible, so don't delay their applications thinking you can add them later. Also, keep detailed records of your son's medical expenses. While it won't affect the SS calculations, you might need documentation later for other assistance programs or tax purposes. I wish someone had told me this earlier. The whole process took about 6 weeks from application to first payment, and yes, the kids' benefits do automatically stop when they turn 18 (19 if still in high school). SSA sends you a notice about 3 months before it happens, so you'll have time to plan for the income reduction. Given your timeline with your kids aging out before your FRA, claiming early probably makes the most financial sense for your family's immediate needs.

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This is exactly the kind of real-world experience I was hoping to hear about! Thank you for sharing all these practical details. The timing about applying for the children's benefits simultaneously is crucial - I definitely would have made the mistake of thinking I could add them later. Your point about keeping detailed medical expense records is really smart too. Even if it doesn't help with SS directly, having that documentation organized could be valuable for other programs or tax deductions down the line. It's reassuring to hear from someone who actually went through this process that claiming early made financial sense given the kids' ages. The 6-week timeline is also helpful to know for planning purposes. Did you run into any unexpected issues during the application process, or did everything go pretty smoothly once you had all the paperwork together?

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The application process was mostly smooth, but there were a couple hiccups I wish I'd known about beforehand. First, they required certified copies of my children's birth certificates - regular photocopies weren't sufficient. I had to make a separate trip to get these, which delayed things by about a week. Second, since I'm divorced, they needed documentation proving I had custody of the kids and that my ex-wife wasn't receiving benefits on another record. Even though she's never worked enough to qualify, I still had to provide our divorce decree and custody paperwork. The biggest surprise was that they initially miscalculated my son's benefit amount and I had to call back to get it corrected. This is where having everything in writing really helped - I was able to reference the exact figures they'd given me during the initial interview. One more tip: bring bank account information for direct deposit setup. They can set up separate accounts for each child's benefits if you want to keep their money segregated for things like medical expenses. I found this really helpful for budgeting and tracking expenses. Overall, despite the minor issues, it was definitely worth claiming early given our family's situation and the kids' ages.

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This thread has been incredibly informative! I'm in a similar situation - turning 62 next year with a 13-year-old daughter. One question that hasn't been addressed yet: if I claim early retirement benefits and my daughter receives dependent benefits, what happens if I decide to go back to work full-time later? I understand about the earnings test reducing benefits temporarily, but I'm wondering if there are any other implications. For example, if I return to substantial work, does that affect the calculation of my daughter's benefits going forward, or do they remain based on my original reduced benefit amount? Also, has anyone dealt with the situation where the non-custodial parent later becomes eligible for higher benefits? I'm wondering if my daughter could potentially switch to receiving benefits based on her father's record if his benefits end up being higher than mine. Thanks to everyone who has shared their experiences - this is exactly the kind of practical information that's impossible to get from the SSA phone lines!

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Great questions! I'm new to this community but dealing with similar concerns. From what I've researched, if you go back to work full-time after claiming early retirement, your daughter's benefits remain based on your original reduced benefit amount - they don't get recalculated upward just because you're working again. The earnings test will temporarily reduce both your benefits and hers if you exceed the annual limit, but the base calculation stays the same. Regarding your daughter potentially switching to her father's record - yes, this is possible! Children can receive benefits on whichever parent's record provides the higher benefit amount. If her father later claims Social Security and his benefit would result in a higher dependent benefit for your daughter, she can switch. The key is that she'll automatically receive benefits from whichever record gives her the most money. However, there are some timing considerations. If her father hasn't filed for his benefits yet, she can't receive benefits on his record. And if he's significantly younger than you, it might not be relevant since she'll likely age out before he becomes eligible. This is definitely something to keep track of as circumstances change. Has anyone else dealt with switching a child between parents' records?

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