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I've been a widow for 8 years now and I'm approaching my full retirement age next year (66 and 10 months). I've worked consistently throughout my life, even after my husband passed away. I'm trying to understand if I can receive BOTH my own Social Security retirement benefits AND survivor benefits from my late husband's work record once I reach my FRA. My husband had a much higher income than me throughout his career, so his benefit amount would be significantly higher. I've gotten conflicting information - some people tell me I can only receive one benefit (whichever is higher), while others say I might be able to take one now and switch to the other later. I'm trying to maximize what I receive since I'll be entirely dependent on Social Security in retirement. Has anyone navigated this successfully? What's the best strategy?
I've been trying to reach my local SS office for the past week with absolutely zero luck. Every time I call, it just rings and rings for literally HOURS with no answer - not even a recording! I'm getting desperate since I need to discuss my Medicare enrollment options before I turn 65 next month. I've heard the offices are appointment-only now, but how am I supposed to make an appointment if no one picks up the phone?? Has anyone successfully gotten through recently? Is there a secret number or trick to getting an actual human on the line? Or can I just show up and hope they'll see me?
I'm going through the exact same situation right now! Turning 65 in two months and my small company's HR department has been less than helpful about how Medicare will interact with our group plan. The phone system really is broken - I've tried calling both the 800 number and my local office multiple times with no luck. Based on what everyone's sharing here, it sounds like I need to try that Claimyr service and also submit the online contact form as backup. @Chloe Wilson - thank you for explaining the small employer rules! That clarifies why I can't just enroll in Part A online. I had no idea about the HSA contribution restrictions either. One question for anyone who's been through this - how far in advance should I schedule my appointment? I'm worried about getting too close to my 65th birthday and missing something important in the enrollment timeline.
@Rhett Bowman I d'recommend scheduling your appointment at least 6-8 weeks before your 65th birthday if possible. Your Initial Enrollment Period starts 3 months before your birth month, so you have some flexibility, but given how hard it is to get appointments right now, earlier is definitely better. I just went through this process last year and the SSA rep told me they were booking appointments about 3-4 weeks out at that time. Don t'wait until the last minute - those late enrollment penalties are permanent and can really add up over time!
I just went through this exact process about 6 months ago and wanted to share what worked for me. After a week of failed attempts calling both the local office and 800 number, I ended up using a three-pronged approach: 1) Used the Claimyr service (definitely worth the fee - got through in under 2 hours vs days of frustration), 2) Submitted the online contact form on ssa.gov as backup, and 3) Had my spouse call from a different phone simultaneously to increase our odds. The Claimyr service is what ultimately got us the appointment. For your Medicare situation specifically, bring documentation of your current employer coverage including the Summary of Benefits and Coverage (SBC) document - the SSA rep will need this to coordinate your transition properly. Also ask your HR department for a letter stating your coverage end date and whether it meets Medicare's "creditable coverage" standards. This documentation becomes crucial if you ever need to change Medicare plans later without penalties. One heads up - when they do call you back to schedule, have your calendar ready because they often have very limited appointment slots and may only offer you 1-2 options. I almost missed getting scheduled because I wasn't prepared with my availability when they called. Good luck!
This is incredibly helpful, thank you! I hadn't thought about having my spouse call simultaneously - that's actually a brilliant strategy to double our chances. The point about having my calendar ready when they call back is great too. I've been so focused on just getting through that I didn't think about being prepared for the scheduling part. Quick question - when you used Claimyr, did they connect you directly to your local office or to the national 800 number? I'm wondering if one has better appointment availability than the other. Also, did your employer's HR department know what "creditable coverage" documentation meant, or did you have to explain it to them? I'm worried my small company's HR person might not be familiar with Medicare coordination requirements.
I've been divorced for about 7 years after a 29-year marriage. Never remarried. I started claiming my own Social Security retirement benefits when I turned 62 because I needed the income (getting about $1,450/month now). My ex-husband is 68 and has some health issues. If he passes away, would I be eligible for survivor benefits based on his record? He made substantially more than me throughout our marriage - I think he's collecting around $2,900 monthly. I'm confused about whether I'd get anything since I already claimed my own benefits early. Does anyone know how survivor benefits work for ex-spouses in this situation?
i wonder if you get to keep the higher payment for life once you switch? or can they reduce it later?
Once you start receiving survivor benefits, they generally continue for life (with annual COLA adjustments), unless you remarry before age 60. There are some situations where benefits might change - like if you become entitled to a higher benefit on your own record later, or if you're subject to government pension offsets that come into play later.
I'm sorry you're having to think about this difficult situation, but it's wise to understand your options ahead of time. Based on what others have shared here, it sounds like you would likely be eligible for survivor benefits as an ex-spouse since your marriage lasted 29 years (well over the 10-year requirement) and you haven't remarried. The key thing I'm gathering is that you'd receive whichever benefit is higher - either your current $1,450 or potentially close to his $2,900 (depending on when you apply and your age at the time). Just wanted to add that you might also want to keep track of any changes to his address or contact information if possible, as SSA sometimes needs to verify details about the deceased person's work history and benefits. Wishing you the best as you navigate this.
I just turned 64 last month and I'm trying to figure out the best time to apply for my Social Security retirement benefits. I was originally planning to wait until I'm 64 and a half (about 5 months from now), but now I'm wondering if those extra months of waiting will actually increase my monthly payment amount compared to applying right now. Does anyone know if there's a financial advantage to waiting just those few months? Or does Social Security only calculate significant increases when you wait full years? I'm not planning to wait until my full retirement age (which is 66 and 8 months for me), but I don't want to leave money on the table if waiting until 64.5 would bump up my monthly amount. Thanks for any insights!
btw u should apply like 3 months before u want benefits to start cuz processing takes forever these days!!!
One additional consideration: If you're planning to work while receiving benefits and you haven't reached your Full Retirement Age, be aware of the earnings limit ($21,240 in 2025). If you earn over that amount, $1 in benefits will be withheld for every $2 you earn above the limit. This might influence your decision about when to start benefits if you're continuing to work.
That's an important point I'd forgotten about. I do earn about $24,000 from my part-time job, so I'll be slightly over that limit. Maybe it makes more sense for me to wait until I'm closer to my FRA before applying since some of my benefits would be withheld anyway.
@Daniel White That s'smart thinking! Since you re'earning $24k and would be over the limit, you d'have about $1,380 in benefits withheld each year $24,000 (- $21,240 = $2,760 over the limit, divided by 2 .)The good news is those withheld benefits aren t'lost forever - they get added back to increase your benefit amount once you reach your FRA. But if you re'going to lose some benefits anyway due to the earnings test, waiting a bit longer might make even more sense in your situation.
I've been banging my head against the wall trying to get federal taxes withheld from my Social Security benefits since I started receiving them in January. I filled out the W-4V form requesting 10% withholding and mailed it to the St. Paul office THREE separate times over the past 2 months. Nothing has changed - still getting my full payment with zero withholding! Every time I call, I just get that automated message about "all agents are busy" and it tells me to call back later. I've tried mornings, afternoons, different days - same result. Never reach a human. I saw somewhere on this forum that you can just walk into your local office and hand them the W-4V form without an appointment? Is that true? Has anyone actually done this successfully? I'm about to drive down there tomorrow morning but don't want to waste my time if they're just going to turn me away. I'm worried about owing a huge tax bill next April if I can't get this fixed soon!
wait u can have taxes takin out of ss checks?? i didnt know that i been gettin benefits for 2 yrs and always owe at tax time ughhh
Just wanted to share another tip for folks dealing with this issue - if you're tech-savvy, you can actually check the status of your W-4V processing online through your my Social Security account at ssa.gov. Look under "Benefits & Payment Details" and then "Tax Withholding." It might show as "pending" even if they haven't processed it yet, but at least you'll know they received it. Also, for anyone worried about owing taxes while waiting for the withholding to kick in, you can make estimated quarterly payments directly to the IRS using their online payment system (EFTPS) or by mailing Form 1040-ES with a check. This way you're not scrambling come tax season! Emma, glad you got your receipt! That's the most important part - having proof you submitted it.
Monique Byrd
Based on what you've shared, your best strategy would likely be to compare these two approaches: 1) Take your survivor benefit at FRA (when it's not reduced) and switch to your own retirement at 70 (after it's grown by 32%) 2) Take your reduced retirement benefit now and switch to the full survivor benefit at your FRA The right choice depends on your specific benefit amounts and your life expectancy. Generally, if you're in good health and expect to live past your early 80s, maximizing the higher benefit by delaying it can pay off significantly over time. I'd recommend contacting SSA directly to get detailed benefit estimates, and consider consulting with a financial advisor who specializes in Social Security claiming strategies.
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Lourdes Fox
AuthorThank you for laying out these options so clearly. I definitely plan to live into my 90s based on my family history, so maximizing the long-term benefit makes sense. I'll call SSA to get the exact numbers and maybe look into a financial advisor with Social Security expertise.
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Connor Byrne
I went through this exact situation about 3 years ago! You're getting good advice here - you definitely can't collect both benefits at full value simultaneously, but you do have strategic options. What really helped me was creating a spreadsheet comparing the lifetime totals for different scenarios. I calculated taking survivor benefits at FRA vs taking them early, and taking my own retirement at 62, FRA, and 70. The breakeven analysis showed me exactly when each strategy would pay off based on my life expectancy. Also, don't forget to factor in cost-of-living adjustments (COLA) - they apply to whichever benefit you're receiving. One tip: when you call SSA, ask them to mail you a written benefit estimate rather than just getting verbal numbers. Having it in writing helped me feel more confident about my decision and gave me something to reference later.
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