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Welcome Emma! Your questions about research/education time and inventory management are really important ones that I don't think have been fully addressed yet in this thread. From my experience dealing with SSA, they generally consider any time spent on activities that are necessary for your business operations as work time. So yes, that research time you spend on collectibles markets and pricing would likely count - it's directly related to making informed business decisions. Same with organizing your storage unit and retrieving items to ship. Think of it this way: if you hired someone else to do these tasks, you'd pay them for that time, so SSA would probably consider it business activity when you do it yourself. I'd definitely include those activities in your tracking spreadsheet. For the research time, I log it as "market research" or "product education" in my daily notes. For storage unit visits, I track it as "inventory management" along with any mileage (which is also a business deduction). Your plan to call the local SSA office before filing is smart. When you do, I'd suggest asking them specifically about these types of indirect business activities so you know exactly how to categorize them. The learning curve is steep but you're asking all the right questions upfront. Starting your tracking system now before you even file will put you way ahead of where most of us were when we began this process!
This is such great advice, Angelica! I'm also new to this community and just starting to wrap my head around all these requirements. Your point about thinking of it like "would I pay someone else to do this task" is a really helpful framework for deciding what counts as business time. I hadn't considered that mileage to storage units would be deductible - that's a nice bonus on top of tracking it as work time. I'm definitely going to start a more comprehensive tracking system based on all the advice in this thread. Emma, your questions about research time really resonated with me too. I spend a lot of time on forums and Facebook groups learning about the items I sell, and I never thought of that as "work" before, but it absolutely is essential business activity. One thing I'm curious about - do any of you track time spent on general business administration like updating your bookkeeping or preparing quarterly tax estimates? I assume that would count as business hours too, but I want to make sure I'm being consistent with how SSA would view it. Thanks everyone for creating such a supportive and informative discussion! As someone just starting this journey, having access to real experiences from people who've navigated these challenges successfully is incredibly valuable.
As someone who's been through this exact situation, I can't emphasize enough how important it is to start documenting everything from day one. I filed for SS at 62 while running my small Amazon business and made several mistakes early on that could have been avoided. The key things I wish I'd known from the start: 1. **Track EVERYTHING** - Even 10 minutes answering customer questions counts. I use a simple app on my phone to log time in real-time rather than trying to remember at the end of the day. 2. **Monthly vs Annual rules** - That first year is crucial since they look month-by-month. After year one, it's much simpler with just annual totals. 3. **"Substantial services" is broader than you think** - Research time, inventory management, even updating listings all count as business activity. 4. **Get it in writing** - Different SSA reps will give you different answers. When you get clarification, ask them to email you a summary or send written guidance. One specific tip that saved me headaches: I set up automatic monthly exports from my selling platforms on the 1st of each month, then spend 30 minutes calculating my net earnings and total hours. Having this routine prevents scrambling later if SSA asks questions. The system definitely isn't designed for modern online businesses, but once you establish good documentation habits, it becomes manageable. Don't let the complexity discourage you from claiming benefits you've earned!
As someone who's been through this exact decision process, I'd encourage you to consider one more angle: spousal benefits and survivor protection. If you're married, delaying your SS benefit doesn't just affect you - it also determines the maximum survivor benefit your spouse could receive. Given your excellent health and family longevity, this could be significant. That said, your financial position is strong enough that you really can't make a "wrong" choice here. I've seen too many people stress over optimizing SS while missing opportunities to enjoy their early retirement years. The difference between claiming at 62 vs 67 might be $200K over 30 years, but you already have nearly $2M in assets. My suggestion: Run the numbers one more time factoring in taxes and your specific withdrawal strategy, then go with whatever gives you the most peace of mind. The "perfect" mathematical choice isn't worth losing sleep over when you're already in such a secure position.
This is such valuable insight, especially about the survivor benefits angle. I hadn't fully considered how my SS decision would impact my spouse's potential survivor benefit down the road. That's definitely another factor to weigh in this decision. You're absolutely right that I'm overthinking this from a position of financial security - it's easy to get caught up in optimization when the reality is I'll be fine either way. Sometimes the best choice is simply the one that lets you sleep better at night. Thank you for the perspective check!
I'm facing a similar decision at 63 and wanted to share something my fee-only financial planner pointed out that really changed my perspective. She showed me that with substantial assets like yours, the SS timing decision is actually more about sequence of returns risk than just break-even math. If we hit a major market downturn in your early 60s while you're drawing from your TSP/IRA to delay SS, you could be forced to sell at losses during the worst possible time. But if you take SS at 62, you have that guaranteed income floor and can ride out market volatility without touching your investments during downturns. Given that your TSP is heavily in C fund (which has been great but is still market-dependent), having that SS cushion might actually be worth more than the delayed retirement credits from a risk management standpoint. The math assumes steady market returns, but real retirement doesn't work that way. Just another angle to consider - sometimes the "suboptimal" choice on paper turns out to be the smartest choice in practice when markets don't cooperate.
This is an excellent point about sequence of returns risk that I hadn't fully appreciated! You're absolutely right that the theoretical math assumes smooth market performance, but reality is much messier. Looking back at 2008 or early 2020, having that guaranteed SS income floor could have been the difference between riding out the storm versus being forced to sell investments at the worst possible time. My TSP being heavily weighted in C fund has been fantastic during this bull run, but that also means I'm more exposed to market volatility. Starting SS at 62 would give me that base level of security to weather whatever markets throw at us in the coming years. Thank you for sharing your planner's perspective - it's helping me think about this decision through a risk management lens rather than just pure optimization.
I want to share some additional thoughts that might help with your planning. Since you're 62 now and eligible for early Social Security on your own record, you might want to compare what you'd get from your own work history versus waiting for potential survivor benefits. Sometimes it makes sense to claim your own reduced benefit now and then switch to survivor benefits later if they'd be higher. Also, I'd strongly recommend getting in touch with a local SHIP (State Health Insurance Assistance Program) counselor - they're free and can help you understand how Medicare will work with your situation when you turn 65, especially if your income changes significantly. They often have insights about coordinating different types of benefits that regular SSA staff might not mention. Finally, don't forget to factor in cost-of-living adjustments (COLA) when planning - Social Security benefits get annual increases, but your ex's pension probably doesn't, so the gap between them changes over time. Having multiple scenarios mapped out will help you feel more prepared for whatever happens.
This is such comprehensive advice, thank you! I hadn't considered the strategy of potentially claiming my own benefits early and then switching to survivor benefits later - that's definitely something I need to ask SSA about when I meet with them. The SHIP counselor recommendation is also really helpful since I'll be turning 65 in a few years and Medicare coordination will be another big piece of this puzzle. You make a great point about COLA adjustments too - I never thought about how Social Security increases over time while the pension stays flat. That actually makes the long-term picture look a bit more optimistic. I'm going to start making a list of all these different scenarios so I can compare them side by side. It's overwhelming but also reassuring to know there are multiple strategies to consider rather than just hoping for the best with survivor benefits.
I'm new to this community but wanted to share something that might help with your situation. My sister went through something very similar when planning for her ex-husband's eventual passing - she was also receiving part of his federal pension and worried about the financial gap. One thing that really helped her was creating a timeline of when different benefits would kick in and what documentation she'd need ready. She made a folder with copies of everything - marriage certificate, divorce decree, Social Security cards, pension statements, bank statements showing her current income, etc. When the time came, having everything organized made the process much smoother. Also, she discovered that some federal credit unions and banks have financial counselors who specialize in helping people navigate Social Security transitions. They often provide free consultations and can help you model different scenarios based on your specific numbers. It might be worth checking if any financial institutions in your area offer this service - sometimes they catch things that even SSA representatives miss. The fact that you're thinking ahead and asking these questions now shows you're being really smart about this. I know it's stressful, but having a plan will make all the difference when the time comes.
This is such practical advice, especially about creating that documentation folder! I've been feeling overwhelmed trying to keep track of all the different pieces of information I need, but organizing everything in advance makes so much sense. The timeline idea is brilliant too - I could map out what happens when, what benefits stop, what benefits start, and what paperwork needs to be filed when. I hadn't thought about checking with financial institutions for specialized counselors either. That could be really valuable since they might have experience with these exact GPO and federal pension situations. Thank you for sharing your sister's experience - it's reassuring to hear from someone who actually went through this successfully. I'm definitely going to start putting together that organized folder this week!
Hi! I'm completely new to this community and just wanted to say how helpful this entire thread has been. I'm actually in a very similar situation - I lost my part-time job about 2 months ago due to my disability worsening and making it impossible to maintain my work schedule. I was earning about $380/month and like you, I had no idea I needed to report stopping work to SSA. I thought you only had to report when you STARTED working! Reading all these success stories from everyone who went through the exact same thing is giving me the courage to finally make that call myself. It's clear from all the responses that this is way more common than any of us realized, and SSA is used to dealing with these situations when people are honest about what happened. Based on what everyone is sharing about their experiences, it sounds like you could potentially get around $200+ more per month going forward plus several months of back payments. That could really help with getting your car fixed! I'm planning to call tomorrow morning too after reading all this encouragement. We can do this! Don't let the fear hold you back from getting the money you're entitled to. All these community members have shown that SSA is understanding about transportation and health-related job losses when you're upfront about the situation.
@Sean Doyle Hi! I m'new here too and it s'so reassuring to know I m'not the only one dealing with this situation. Reading through everyone s'experiences has been incredibly eye-opening - I had no idea so many people go through the exact same thing with not knowing about reporting job loss to SSA. Your situation with your disability worsening and affecting your work schedule sounds really challenging, and I m'sorry you re'dealing with that. It s'encouraging that you re'planning to call tomorrow too! Maybe we can both share updates on how it goes. All these success stories from community members have really shown me that I ve'been letting fear keep me from getting help I m'entitled to. The potential for back payments plus increased monthly SSI could really be life-changing for both of us. Thanks for the encouragement - knowing someone else is going through this at the same time makes me feel less alone in the situation!
Hi! I'm new to this community and just wanted to add my voice to everyone encouraging you to call SSA right away. I went through almost the exact same situation about 6 weeks ago - lost my part-time job (was making about $390/month) due to transportation issues when my car needed major repairs I couldn't afford. Like you, I completely forgot about reporting it to Social Security and was terrified about calling after waiting so long. When I finally called (after reading posts exactly like this one!), the representative was actually really patient and helpful. I explained that I didn't realize I needed to report stopping work and thought reporting was only for when you START working. She said this is one of the most common misunderstandings they see, especially with people who are newer to receiving SSI benefits. My monthly payment increased by about $195, and they processed back payments for the months I should have been getting the higher amount - ended up being around $780 total! No penalties at all because I was honest about when I stopped working and why I didn't report it initially. Based on your $420/month income, you're probably looking at around $210+ more per month plus 4 months of back payments. That could be over $800 that you're missing out on! Don't let fear keep you from getting money you're legally entitled to. The transportation issue is completely legitimate and they deal with these situations all the time. You've got this - call them tomorrow!
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Hi Anastasia! I'm also new to this community and wanted to congratulate you on your Social Security approval! What an exciting milestone to reach. I've been following this entire conversation and I'm really impressed by how helpful and knowledgeable everyone has been. As someone who's just starting to research my own future retirement benefits, this discussion has been incredibly educational. I had no idea about so many of these details - like the birth date payment schedule, that benefits are paid a month behind, or that you should check your online account regularly for updates. The practical tips everyone has shared - from keeping detailed records to carefully reviewing the award letter when it arrives - are exactly the kind of real-world insights that are so valuable but not always easy to find elsewhere. Based on all the experiences shared here, it sounds like you're right on track to receive your award letter within the next couple weeks, and then your first payment should arrive reliably on the third Wednesday in February. Everyone seems very confident about the payment schedule once it gets going! Thank you for asking such great questions that have helped all of us newcomers learn about this process. This community really seems like an amazing resource for navigating these important life transitions. I hope your award letter arrives soon with all the budgeting information you need!
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Hi Anastasia! I'm also pretty new to this community and wanted to congratulate you on your Social Security approval! What an amazing milestone to reach as you start this new chapter. I've been reading through all these responses and wow - the amount of helpful information shared here is incredible! As someone who's still a few years away from retirement myself, this entire conversation has been such a valuable learning experience. I had no clue about things like the birth date payment schedule or that Social Security pays benefits a month behind schedule. The tip about checking your mySocialSecurity account regularly seems especially useful since several people mentioned that payment details often show up there before the physical award letter arrives. And keeping organized records throughout the process sounds like really smart advice too. From everything everyone has shared, it sounds like you should expect your award letter in the next 2-3 weeks, and then your first payment on the third Wednesday in February since you were born on the 19th. The folks here clearly have tons of real-world experience with this process! Thanks for asking such great questions that have helped educate all of us newcomers about navigating Social Security. This community is obviously full of knowledgeable people who are generous with sharing their experiences. Best of luck getting your award letter soon and having everything go smoothly with your January start date!
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