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Will we keep both SS benefits with my pension? Confused about spousal vs. retirement benefits

First time posting here and feeling a bit embarrassed about my confusion with Social Security rules. My husband and I are planning our retirement, and I'm trying to understand how our benefits will work together. I have a teacher's pension that'll be about $2,500 monthly, plus I'm eligible for Social Security of roughly $2,350 based on my previous private sector work. My husband qualifies for about $2,125 in SS benefits. We're planning for him to retire at 65 and me at 62 (yes, I know about the reduction for early filing). What I can't figure out is: Do we get both Social Security checks plus my pension? Do I only get one Social Security amount (either mine or half of his)? Does my pension affect either of our Social Security benefits? I've read about GPO and WEP but can't make sense of it all. If someone could break this down very simply, I'd be so grateful!

When I was figuring all this out last year, I found a calculator on the SSA website that helps estimate WEP reductions. It's complicated though! Definitely recommend talking to an actual person at SSA before making decisions. And yes, you each get your own Social Security benefit (though yours may be reduced by WEP). This is separate from spousal benefits, which is a whole different thing that comes into play if your own benefit would be less than half of your spouse's.

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Thank you! I'll look for that calculator. I've been trying for weeks to get through to SSA on the phone but keep getting disconnected after waiting forever.

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Welcome to the community! Don't feel embarrassed at all - these rules are genuinely confusing and you're asking exactly the right questions. I'm a federal retiree who went through this maze a few years ago. Here's the simple breakdown: You'll receive THREE separate monthly payments - your pension ($2,500), your own Social Security (reduced by WEP, probably around $1,600-1,800), and your husband will get his full Social Security ($2,125). So yes, you both get Social Security checks! The key thing to understand is that WEP only reduces YOUR Social Security benefit because you have a pension from work where you didn't pay SS taxes. It doesn't eliminate it entirely, and it doesn't affect your husband's benefit at all. One critical tip: When you apply for Social Security, make sure to tell them about your pension upfront. Don't wait for them to "discover" it later through tax records - that can lead to overpayment situations that are really stressful to deal with. Also consider whether taking benefits at 62 is really the best move financially. That 30% reduction is permanent, and with your pension providing good income, you might be better off waiting until full retirement age for a much higher Social Security benefit. Run the numbers both ways!

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Social Security benefits starting - will IRS take my entire check for back taxes?

I'm finally turning 65 next week and my Social Security retirement benefits are supposed to start depositing this month (about $1,750/month). My problem is that I owe about $8,900 in back taxes to the IRS from my self-employment income in 2021-2022. I'm worried they're going to take my entire Social Security payment right away. Can the IRS grab my whole benefit check in one go? Or is there some kind of limit to what they can take each month? I've heard conflicting things and I'm getting anxious since I'm counting on at least some of that money for my monthly expenses. Has anyone dealt with this before?

Just to add one more important detail - if you're facing financial hardship, you can request a reduction or removal of the levy by submitting Form 911 (Request for Taxpayer Advocate Service Assistance) or by calling the Taxpayer Advocate Service directly at 877-777-4778. They're separate from regular IRS collections and can sometimes help if you're in a difficult financial situation.

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That's really good to know. I'll keep that information handy in case the 15% creates more hardship than I'm anticipating. Thank you!

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One thing that might help ease your anxiety - you can also check if you qualify for an Offer in Compromise (OIC) with the IRS. If your financial situation makes it unlikely you'll ever be able to pay the full $8,900, they might accept a lower amount as settlement. There's a pre-qualifier tool on the IRS website that can give you an idea if you'd be eligible. It's worth looking into since you're on a fixed income now. The application fee is $205 but it's waived if you meet low income guidelines.

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Social Security survivor benefit recalculation at FRA - automatic or do I need to request it?

I've been receiving Social Security survivor benefits since I turned 60 (now 66). Because I continued working, my benefits were withheld several months when my income exceeded the earnings limit. I remember reading somewhere that once I reached my full retirement age (which was this past April), my benefits would be recalculated to account for those months they were withheld. It's now October, and while I'm receiving a check every month now (I guess because the earnings test no longer applies), the amount seems exactly the same as before. Shouldn't there have been some increase to make up for those withheld months? Do they automatically recalculate this at FRA or do I need to contact SSA and request the adjustment? I've tried calling but you know how that goes... impossible to get through to anyone. Has anyone gone through this process before?

To follow up on your question about how much the increase might be - it varies based on how many months were withheld and over what period. The formula is a bit complex, but for someone who had 8 months withheld between age 60 and FRA (approximately 72 months total), you might see an increase of around 1.5-2% of your current benefit. So if your current survivor benefit is $2,000, you might see an increase of $30-40 per month. Not huge, but as others mentioned, it adds up over time, and you should also receive back payments from your FRA month to present.

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Thank you for explaining this so clearly. $30-40 per month would be welcome, especially with how inflation has been lately! I'll definitely follow up with SSA now that I understand the process better.

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I went through this exact situation about 3 years ago! The SSA is supposed to automatically do the ARF adjustment, but in my experience, they often don't unless you push them. I had to call multiple times over several months before they finally processed mine. When you do get through to them, make sure to ask for a written confirmation of when the adjustment will be processed. They gave me a reference number and told me it would take 4-6 weeks, which turned out to be accurate. The back pay was nice - I got about 8 months worth of the difference in one lump sum. One tip: if you have trouble getting through on the phone, try calling right when they open at 8 AM EST. I had better luck early in the morning than later in the day.

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Can surviving spouse get $255 death benefit if deceased was in nursing home before passing?

My father passed away two weeks ago after spending the last 7 months in a nursing home. Mom is trying to handle all the paperwork but we're confused about the Social Security lump sum death payment. Someone at the funeral home mentioned a $255 death benefit, but when Mom called SSA, she was on hold for over an hour before getting disconnected. We're not sure if she qualifies since Dad wasn't living at home when he died. Does the nursing home situation affect eligibility for the death benefit? They were married for 52 years and Mom is already receiving her own Social Security retirement. Any guidance would be appreciated!

I'm so sorry for your loss. I just went through this same process when my grandmother passed away last month. Your mother absolutely qualifies for the $255 death benefit - the nursing home stay doesn't affect eligibility at all. What helped us was going to the local SSA office in person instead of trying to call. We brought the death certificate, marriage certificate, and my grandmother's Social Security card. The whole process took about 30 minutes once we got seen. Also, like others mentioned, make sure she asks about survivor benefits if your father's monthly amount was higher than what she's currently receiving. The staff there were actually very helpful and compassionate during what was obviously a difficult time for our family.

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I'm so sorry for your family's loss. Just wanted to add that if your mom is having trouble getting through to SSA by phone, she might want to try calling first thing in the morning right when they open (8am local time) or later in the afternoon after 3pm - those tend to be less busy times. Also, many local SSA offices allow you to schedule appointments online now at ssa.gov/locator which can save a lot of waiting time. The nursing home situation definitely doesn't affect her eligibility for the death benefit. Wishing your family peace during this difficult time.

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Thank you for the timing tips about calling SSA - that's really practical advice that I hadn't thought of! The online appointment scheduling sounds like a great option too. We'll definitely try that approach. It's been overwhelming trying to navigate all of this paperwork while grieving, so having specific suggestions like these really helps. I appreciate everyone taking the time to share their experiences and guidance.

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Login.Gov SSA account showing new email but only lets me sign in with old one - anyone else?

I'm experiencing the weirdest issue with my SSA online account after switching to the Login.Gov system. Everything was fine until yesterday when I tried updating my contact information because I'm switching internet providers. I successfully changed my email address in my profile, and the system showed the change was complete - my profile page displays the NEW email address. But here's the crazy part - when I log out and try to log back in using that new email address, the system says it doesn't recognize it! I've tried three times now. The only way I can access my account is by using my OLD email address that I just changed from! Has the SSA system just not fully processed my email change? The wait time when I called was over 2 hours so I hung up. Does anyone know if there's a lag time between updating profile info and when Login.Gov actually recognizes those changes? Not sure if I should be worried about accessing my benefits info when I need it.

This has been such an incredibly helpful thread! I'm brand new to SSA benefits and was completely unaware of the Login.gov vs SSA profile dual-system setup. Reading through everyone's experiences here has been like getting a crash course in navigating government online systems. The fact that you have to update your email address in TWO separate places that don't sync automatically is honestly mind-boggling - this should definitely be explained with clear step-by-step instructions on the SSA website! I was actually planning to update my contact information next week and would have been completely blindsided by this issue. @Zara Khan, thank you so much for sharing your original problem and then following up to confirm that updating both Login.gov AND the SSA profile separately actually solved it - that kind of follow-through is incredibly valuable for newcomers like me! This community's willingness to help each other navigate these confusing government systems is amazing. Definitely bookmarking this thread for future reference!

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This thread has been absolutely amazing to read as someone who's also completely new to the SSA system! I literally just started my benefits application last week and had no idea about any of this Login.gov complexity. The fact that there are two separate systems that don't communicate with each other seems like such a basic design flaw - how is this not explained clearly during account setup? Reading through everyone's experiences here has been so much more educational than anything on the official SSA website. I'm definitely going to be extra careful when I set up my account and make any changes, knowing now that I'll need to update both systems independently. Thank you to everyone who shared their troubleshooting steps and especially @Zara Khan for the follow-up confirmation that the dual-system approach actually worked! This is exactly the kind of community knowledge sharing that makes dealing with government bureaucracy feel manageable instead of overwhelming.

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This thread has been absolutely invaluable as someone who just started navigating SSA benefits! I'm in the middle of setting up my online account right now and had no idea about the Login.gov vs SSA profile being two completely separate systems. The fact that updating your email in one place doesn't automatically sync to the other seems like such a major usability issue that SSA really needs to address with better documentation. I was actually planning to change my email address this weekend after reading about Login.gov's security features, and this thread has definitely saved me from hours of confusion! @Zara Khan thank you so much for not only sharing the original problem but also coming back to confirm that updating both systems separately actually worked - that follow-up is pure gold for newcomers like me. The community support here has been incredible and makes dealing with these government systems feel so much less intimidating. I'm definitely bookmarking this entire discussion for future reference!

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Welcome to the SSA benefits world! This thread has been such a learning experience for me too as someone who's also just starting to navigate government online systems. It's honestly shocking how the dual-system setup isn't explained anywhere clearly on the official SSA website - you'd think something this fundamental would be highlighted during account setup! I'm so glad you found this discussion before running into the same email update confusion that so many others have experienced. The community here has been absolutely amazing at sharing real-world solutions that you just can't find in official documentation. @Diego Fernández it sounds like you re'being really smart about planning ahead for your email change - definitely update both Login.gov AND your SSA profile separately when you do it. Thanks to everyone who s'contributed to making this such a helpful resource for newcomers like us!

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