Social Security earnings limit for married couples filing jointly in 2025 - separate or combined?
I'm confused about the annual earnings limit for Social Security when both spouses are receiving benefits. My wife (67) and I (66) are both collecting Social Security retirement benefits and we've both reached our Full Retirement Age (FRA). I've heard rumors about changes to how the earnings limit works for married couples starting in 2025. Does anyone know if the earnings test is applied individually to each person, or do they combine our earnings when we file taxes jointly? My neighbor mentioned something about a policy change, but I can't find clear information on the SSA website. I'm planning to work part-time next year and want to make sure I understand how this might affect our benefits. Thanks in advance for any help!
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Jamal Thompson
Good news - once you've reached your Full Retirement Age, there is NO earnings limit that applies to you! This is true regardless of whether you file taxes jointly or separately. The earnings test only applies to people collecting benefits who are under their FRA. Since both you and your wife have reached your FRA (66/67), you can earn as much as you want without any reduction in your Social Security benefits. This hasn't changed for 2025, and it applies to each individual separately - not as a couple.
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Zoe Christodoulou
•Thank you so much for clarifying! That's a huge relief. So it doesn't matter if we file jointly or separately then? Our benefits won't be affected either way?
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Mei Chen
Are you SURE about this?? I thought there was a change coming in 2025 that would affect married couples filing jointly! My sister-in-law got a letter from SSA about earnings limits changing. Now I'm worried because my husband and I are planning our finances for next year and we're both collecting SS too.
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Jamal Thompson
•I'm 100% certain. The earnings test is applied INDIVIDUALLY to each person, and once you reach FRA, there is NO limit. Your sister-in-law might have received information about the standard annual increase to the earnings limit threshold for those UNDER FRA, or perhaps about taxation of benefits (which is different from the earnings test). For 2024, individuals under FRA can earn up to $22,320 without reduction in benefits, and this amount typically increases yearly for inflation.
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CosmicCadet
My husband and I went through this exact same thing last year! The confusion might be between the earnings limit (which stops at FRA) and how Social Security benefits are TAXED (which can be affected by joint income). Up to 85% of your SS benefits can be taxable depending on your combined income if filing jointly. Maybe that's what your neighbor was referring to?
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Zoe Christodoulou
•That makes so much sense! I think I've been mixing up the earnings limit with taxation. So we can earn any amount without reducing our SS benefits, but we might have to pay more taxes on those benefits if our combined income is high enough. That must be what my neighbor meant.
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Liam O'Connor
I tried calling the SSA for 3 days straight to get clarification on this same question and kept getting disconnected or sitting on hold forever! I finally used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to an SSA agent in about 20 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU. The agent confirmed what others are saying here - there's no earnings limit once you reach FRA, regardless of filing status. Saved me hours of frustration!
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Mei Chen
•Thanks for sharing this! I've been trying to get through to SSA for weeks about a different issue. I'm going to check out that service.
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Amara Adeyemi
ok so for 2025 the rules are the same as 2024? i thought they changed something too. what about if only 1 spouse is at fra but the other isnt? does the earnings limit only apply to the younger one then?
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Jamal Thompson
•Correct, the 2025 rules about the earnings test are the same as 2024 - it's applied individually. If one spouse is at FRA and the other isn't, then only the spouse under FRA is subject to the earnings limit. The earnings of the spouse who's reached FRA won't affect either person's benefits. Each person's Social Security entitlement is treated separately for the earnings test.
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Giovanni Gallo
There's some confusion in this thread that I want to clarify. The Annual Earnings Test (which limits how much you can earn while collecting Social Security before FRA) is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from the income thresholds that determine how much of your Social Security is taxable. For taxation of benefits: - If filing jointly with combined income between $32,000-$44,000, up to 50% of benefits may be taxable - If combined income exceeds $44,000, up to 85% of benefits may be taxable These taxation thresholds do consider joint income. However, the earnings test for benefit reduction is applied individually and doesn't apply at all once you reach FRA.
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Zoe Christodoulou
•Thank you for spelling this out so clearly! So what I really need to be concerned about is how our combined income might cause more of our Social Security to be taxed, not about any reduction in the actual benefit amount. I appreciate everyone's help in sorting this out.
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Fatima Al-Mazrouei
My brother works for the SSA and says people confuse this ALL THE TIME. Once you hit your full retirement age, there is NO earnings limit whatsoever!!!! But watch out for the tax implications - that's probably what your neighbor was talking about.
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CosmicCadet
Just want to add - make sure you're also paying attention to Medicare IRMAA surcharges if your income is high enough. That's another thing that can be affected by joint income and sometimes catches people by surprise. If your combined income goes over certain thresholds, you might pay higher Medicare Part B and D premiums two years later.
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Zoe Christodoulou
•Thank you for mentioning this! I hadn't even thought about the Medicare premium implications. Looks like I need to do more research on IRMAA too.
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Mia Green
As someone who just went through this transition myself, I can confirm what others have said - there's absolutely no earnings limit once you reach FRA! I was terrified about going back to work part-time at 67 because I thought it might affect my benefits, but SSA confirmed that I could earn unlimited income without any reduction. The key thing to remember is that the earnings test and taxation of benefits are two completely separate issues. You won't lose any Social Security benefits by working, but depending on your total income, you might owe taxes on a portion of those benefits. I'd recommend keeping good records of all your income sources to make tax planning easier next year. Good luck with your part-time work plans!
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Elijah O'Reilly
•This is really helpful to hear from someone who's actually been through it! I've been so worried about making the wrong decision with my part-time work plans. It's reassuring to know that you didn't experience any benefit reductions. The record-keeping tip is great too - I'll definitely start organizing all my income documentation now. Thanks for sharing your experience!
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Sophie Duck
I want to add something that might help clarify the confusion about "changes in 2025" that several people mentioned. The Social Security Administration does announce annual adjustments each October for the following year, including cost-of-living adjustments (COLA) and changes to the earnings limit thresholds for those UNDER FRA. For 2025, the earnings limit for people under FRA increased to $23,400 (up from $22,320 in 2024). This is probably what people are hearing about as "changes" - but as everyone has correctly stated, these limits don't apply AT ALL once you reach your full retirement age. The annual announcements about these threshold increases often get misinterpreted as applying to everyone collecting Social Security, when they only affect those who haven't reached FRA yet. Hope this helps explain where some of the confusion might be coming from!
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Clay blendedgen
•This is exactly the kind of detailed explanation I was looking for! Thank you for breaking down where the confusion about "2025 changes" is coming from. It makes perfect sense now that the annual announcements about earnings limit increases for people under FRA would get misinterpreted. I bet that's what my neighbor heard about and then passed along incomplete information. It's really helpful to understand that these annual adjustments are routine and only affect those who haven't reached their full retirement age yet. I feel much more confident now about my decision to work part-time next year knowing there are no benefit reductions to worry about at my age.
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Axel Far
I'm so glad I found this discussion! As someone who just turned 66 and reached my FRA last month, I was having the same concerns about working part-time. My financial advisor mentioned something about earnings limits but wasn't specific about whether they applied after FRA. Reading through everyone's responses has been incredibly helpful - it's clear that once you reach FRA, you can earn unlimited income without any Social Security benefit reduction. I appreciate everyone distinguishing between the earnings test (which stops at FRA) and the taxation of benefits (which is based on total income). This gives me the confidence to accept a consulting position I was offered. Thanks to everyone who shared their knowledge and experiences!
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Ellie Kim
•Congratulations on reaching your FRA and welcome to the freedom of unlimited earnings! It's great that you're taking advantage of consulting opportunities - that's exactly the kind of flexibility that makes reaching FRA so valuable. Your financial advisor was probably being cautious since the rules can be confusing, but you're absolutely right that there's no benefit reduction once you hit FRA. Just remember to keep track of your consulting income for tax purposes since it might affect how much of your Social Security gets taxed (though not reduced). Best of luck with your new consulting position!
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Andre Rousseau
I just want to echo what everyone has said here - this thread has been incredibly informative! I'm 68 and my husband is 65 (just reached his FRA), and we've been getting conflicting advice from different sources about working in retirement. It's so reassuring to see multiple people confirm that there's no earnings limit once you reach FRA. What really helped me understand was the distinction everyone made between the earnings test (which affects benefit amounts) and taxation of benefits (which affects how much you pay in taxes). These are completely separate things! For anyone else reading this who might be confused like I was initially - the earnings test only reduces your actual Social Security benefits if you're under your Full Retirement Age. Once you reach FRA, you can earn $1 million a year and still get your full Social Security benefit. However, that high income might make more of your Social Security taxable. I'm bookmarking this thread to share with friends who have similar questions. Thank you all for taking the time to explain this so clearly!
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Omar Farouk
•This thread has been such a goldmine of information! As someone new to navigating Social Security rules, I was completely overwhelmed by all the different regulations and potential changes I kept hearing about. Reading through everyone's experiences and explanations has made everything so much clearer. I especially appreciate how multiple people emphasized the distinction between earnings limits and taxation - I definitely would have mixed those up without this discussion. It's also really helpful to understand where the confusion about "2025 changes" comes from with the annual threshold adjustments for people under FRA. I'm not quite at FRA yet myself (still have 2 years to go), but it's great to know what to expect once I get there. Thanks to everyone who shared their knowledge and personal experiences - this community is incredibly valuable for people trying to understand these complex systems!
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Harper Collins
As a newcomer to this community, I want to thank everyone for this incredibly thorough discussion! I'm 64 and planning my retirement strategy, so while I'm not quite at FRA yet, this conversation has been educational for my future planning. What I find most valuable is how clearly everyone has separated the earnings test from taxation issues - I can see how easy it would be to confuse these two completely different aspects of Social Security. The personal experiences shared here, especially from those who have actually gone through the transition to working after FRA, are so much more helpful than trying to decode official government websites. I'm saving this thread as a reference for when I reach my own FRA in a couple of years. It's reassuring to know that once I hit that milestone, I'll have the flexibility to work as much or as little as I want without worrying about benefit reductions. Thanks to this community for creating such a supportive space for people navigating these complex systems!
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Ryder Everingham
•Welcome to the community! I'm also relatively new here and have been amazed by how knowledgeable and helpful everyone is. Your point about the government websites being difficult to decode really resonates with me - I spent hours trying to understand these rules on my own before finding this discussion. It's so valuable to have real people share their actual experiences rather than just trying to interpret official policy language. I'm a few years behind you (just turned 62) but already starting to think about these same questions. This thread has given me a much clearer roadmap for what to expect as I approach my own FRA. The fact that so many people have taken the time to share detailed explanations and personal stories really shows what a supportive community this is. Looking forward to learning more from everyone here as I navigate my own Social Security journey!
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Ana Erdoğan
This has been such an enlightening thread! I'm new to this community and currently 63, so I'm still a couple years away from my FRA, but I wanted to thank everyone for making these complex rules so much clearer. I've been getting mixed information from various sources about Social Security earnings limits, and the confusion between the earnings test and taxation of benefits was really tripping me up. What I find most helpful is hearing from people like Mia and others who have actually lived through this transition and can confirm that there truly are no benefit reductions once you reach FRA. The explanation about where the "2025 changes" confusion comes from (the annual threshold adjustments for those under FRA) was particularly valuable - I bet I would have fallen into that same misunderstanding. I'm already planning ahead for part-time work after I reach my FRA, and this discussion has given me the confidence to know that when the time comes, I won't have to worry about losing any benefits. Thanks to everyone who took the time to share their knowledge and experiences - this community is an incredible resource!
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Benjamin Carter
•Welcome to the community, Ana! I'm also new here and finding this discussion incredibly valuable. As someone who's 61 and just starting to seriously research Social Security rules, I was feeling pretty overwhelmed by all the conflicting information out there. This thread has been like a masterclass in understanding the difference between earnings limits and taxation - concepts I definitely would have confused on my own. What really strikes me is how generous everyone has been with sharing not just the rules, but their actual lived experiences. Hearing from people who have successfully navigated working after FRA gives me so much more confidence than just reading policy documents. I'm already bookmarking this discussion for future reference as I approach my own FRA decisions. It's clear this community values helping each other understand these complex systems, and I'm grateful to have found such a supportive group of people who are willing to share their knowledge so thoroughly!
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AstroAce
As a newcomer to this community, I want to express my gratitude for this incredibly comprehensive discussion! I'm 65 and just reached my FRA last month, and I've been anxious about whether I could take on some freelance work without jeopardizing my Social Security benefits. Reading through everyone's detailed explanations has been such a relief - it's now crystal clear that there's no earnings limit once you reach FRA, regardless of how much you earn or your filing status. What I found most helpful was how multiple community members distinguished between the earnings test (which stops at FRA) and the taxation of Social Security benefits (which is income-dependent). I had been conflating these two completely separate issues! The clarification about where the "2025 changes" confusion stems from - the annual adjustments to earnings thresholds for those under FRA - was particularly enlightening. I'm also grateful for the practical advice about keeping good income records for tax planning and the heads-up about potential Medicare IRMAA implications. This discussion has given me the confidence to move forward with my freelance plans. Thank you all for creating such a welcoming space where newcomers can learn from your collective wisdom and real-world experiences!
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Clarissa Flair
•Welcome to the community, AstroAce! It's wonderful to see how this discussion has helped so many people gain clarity on these confusing Social Security rules. As someone who's also relatively new here, I've been impressed by how willing everyone is to share their knowledge and real experiences. Your point about conflating the earnings test with taxation really resonates - I think that's probably the most common source of confusion for people in our situation. Congratulations on reaching your FRA and on having the confidence to pursue your freelance work! It's such a relief to know we can earn without worrying about benefit reductions. The practical tips shared here about record-keeping and being aware of Medicare IRMAA are gold - things I never would have thought to consider on my own. This community really is a treasure trove of collective wisdom, and I'm grateful we found this supportive space to navigate these complex systems together!
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Zainab Yusuf
As a newcomer to this community, I want to thank everyone for this incredibly detailed and helpful discussion! I'm 64 and approaching my FRA next year, and I've been so confused about the earnings rules - especially with all the talk about "changes" I keep hearing from friends and neighbors. This thread has been absolutely invaluable in clearing up the confusion between the earnings test (which stops at FRA) and taxation of benefits (which continues based on income levels). What really helped me was understanding that the "2025 changes" people are talking about are just the routine annual adjustments to earnings thresholds for people UNDER FRA - not new rules affecting those who've already reached their FRA. The personal experiences shared here, especially from people like Mia who actually went through the transition to working after FRA, give me so much more confidence than trying to decipher government websites alone. I'm already planning some part-time consulting work for after I reach my FRA, and now I know I can move forward without worrying about benefit reductions. Thanks to everyone who took the time to share their knowledge - this community is such a valuable resource for navigating these complex systems!
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Brian Downey
•Welcome to the community, Zainab! As another newcomer, I can absolutely relate to feeling overwhelmed by all the conflicting information about Social Security earnings rules. This thread has been like finding a goldmine of clear, practical information! I'm 63 and still have a few years before my FRA, but reading everyone's explanations has given me such a better understanding of what to expect. The way this community breaks down complex topics into digestible pieces - like separating the earnings test from taxation issues - is incredibly helpful. It's also reassuring to see so many people share their real-world experiences of successfully working after reaching FRA without any benefit reductions. Your point about the "2025 changes" confusion really hits home - I think I would have fallen into that same trap without this discussion explaining that those are just routine threshold adjustments for people under FRA. Best of luck with your consulting plans next year! It's exciting to know we'll have that flexibility once we reach our FRA.
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Ethan Taylor
As a newcomer to this community, I want to express my sincere appreciation for this incredibly thorough and enlightening discussion! I'm 66 and just reached my FRA a few months ago, and I've been hesitant about accepting a part-time position because I was terrified it might affect my Social Security benefits. Reading through everyone's detailed explanations has completely put my mind at ease - it's now abundantly clear that there's absolutely no earnings limit once you reach your Full Retirement Age, period! What I found most valuable was how multiple community members carefully distinguished between the earnings test (which ceases at FRA) and the taxation of Social Security benefits (which is a completely separate consideration based on total income). I had been mixing these up terribly! The clarification about the source of "2025 changes" confusion - that these are just the routine annual threshold adjustments for people under FRA, not new policies affecting those at or beyond FRA - was particularly helpful. I also really appreciate the practical tips shared about record-keeping for taxes and the heads-up about potential Medicare IRMAA implications down the road. The personal stories from folks like Mia who have actually lived through working after FRA are so much more reassuring than trying to parse government websites alone. This discussion has given me the confidence to accept that part-time position I've been considering. Thank you all for creating such a supportive and knowledgeable community - I'm grateful to have found this resource!
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