Social Security earnings limit for joint tax filers - will my spouse's income count against my $23,400 limit?
I'm planning to retire next year (2025) at 63, but my wife will continue working full-time. I know there's a $23,400 earnings limit before they start reducing my Social Security benefits if I'm under FRA. But here's what I can't figure out - how does this work with a joint tax return? Does my wife's income count toward that $23,400 limit? Would they deduct $1 from my benefits for every $2 we earn as a couple over that amount? I'm worried we'll end up losing a big chunk of my SS checks if her income counts against my limit. Anyone dealt with this before?
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Scarlett Forster
Good news - the earnings test only applies to YOUR individual earnings, not your spouse's. Your wife can earn $250,000 next year and it won't affect your benefits at all. The Social Security earnings limit only counts wages or self-employment income that YOU earn. The fact that you file taxes jointly is completely irrelevant to how SSA applies the earnings test. They only look at your individual earnings record.
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Cole Roush
•That's such a relief! So if I keep my personal earnings under $23,400, I'll receive my full SS retirement benefit regardless of what my wife earns? Just making absolutely sure I understand correctly.
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Arnav Bengali
WRONG INFO ABOVE!!!! My husband and I went through this last year and they DID count our combined income!!! We filed jointly and they took away almost $400/month from his checks because I was still working. The SSA office told us we should have filed TAXES separately to avoid this!!! Don't listen to people who don't know what there talking about!!!
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Sayid Hassan
•I'm afraid you've misunderstood something about your situation. I've worked with dozens of clients on this exact issue. The earnings test is based SOLELY on the individual beneficiary's earnings. Your tax filing status (joint vs. separate) has absolutely no impact on how the earnings test is applied. Something else must have affected your husband's benefits - perhaps an overpayment recovery, Medicare premiums, or tax withholding. I'd suggest checking his benefit verification letter for the exact reason for the reduction.
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Rachel Tao
my sister had this problem to...she retired at 62 but her husband kept working. they told her at first his income counted but then when she went back they said it didn't. the SS people don't even know there own rules sometimes lol
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Cole Roush
•Wow, that's concerning that she got different answers. Did she eventually get it sorted out correctly?
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Derek Olson
The previous responses are mostly correct. The earnings test ONLY applies to the person receiving benefits. Your spouse's earnings have zero impact on whether your benefits are reduced under the earnings test. I work with retirees all the time who are in your exact situation. However, there is one caveat: if you have any involvement in your spouse's business (like helping out occasionally, even without direct payment), the SSA might consider some of that as your income. They can be quite strict about this with family businesses. Also, remember that while your spouse's income doesn't affect the earnings test, your combined income WILL affect how much of your Social Security is taxable on your federal tax return. That's a completely separate issue from the earnings test.
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Cole Roush
•Thanks for the clarification. My wife is a school teacher, so no family business concerns. Good point about the taxation though - I guess we'll pay more tax on my benefits due to our combined income, but at least her earnings won't trigger the earnings test reduction.
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Danielle Mays
When I retired in 2023 I was so confused about this too!! But yes everyone is right - only YOUR earnings count toward the limit. But watch out because they count GROSS earnings not what you take home!
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Derek Olson
•Excellent point about gross earnings. The earnings test counts your gross wages or net self-employment income before any deductions for taxes, healthcare premiums, retirement contributions, etc.
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Roger Romero
Ugh I tried calling SSA three times to ask this EXACT question last month and couldn't get through to anyone. Kept getting disconnected after waiting for 45+ minutes each time. I finally used this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to a real person at SSA in about 20 minutes. They confirmed what others are saying - spouse income doesn't count toward YOUR earnings limit. There's a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU
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Cole Roush
•Thanks for the tip! I'll check out that service if I need to talk to someone at SSA. Their phone system is absolutely maddening.
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Rachel Tao
i don't understand why the goverment has to take money away from seniors anyways... we worked are whole lives for those benefits!!
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Danielle Mays
•I know right?? But at least they give it back to you when you reach full retirement age. My brother just got there and they recalculated his benefit to account for all the months they reduced it. Got a nice little bump in his monthly check!
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Scarlett Forster
One more important point that hasn't been mentioned: Even if you do exceed your individual earnings limit, the $1 for every $2 reduction isn't as bad as it sounds. Here's why: 1. If you earn $25,400 (which is $2,000 over the $23,400 limit), they would only withhold $1,000 for the year. 2. SSA doesn't take a little from each check - they typically withhold full months of benefits at the beginning of the year until they've satisfied the withholding amount. 3. Most importantly, these aren't permanent reductions. When you reach your Full Retirement Age, SSA will recalculate your benefit and give you credit for the months they withheld, which increases your monthly payment going forward.
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Cole Roush
•That's really helpful to know. So if I do go over a bit, it's not the end of the world. I might lose a couple months of payments but eventually get compensated through a higher monthly benefit. That makes the whole system seem more reasonable.
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