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Social Security confusion: Will my CIC survivors benefits stop when my disabled daughter turns 16?

I'm so stressed trying to figure out our Social Security situation! My daughter (15, turning 16 in 3 months) receives survivors benefits based on her late father's record. She has a documented disability, and I currently receive Child-in-Care (CIC) survivors benefits as her caretaker. I called SSA yesterday and spoke with a rep who said she consulted with an "expert" in their office. According to them: 1. My daughter will continue receiving her survivors benefits until she's 18 2. I will lose my CIC benefits when she turns 16, even though she's disabled 3. When she turns 18, I can potentially get my benefits back if she's deemed a Disabled Adult Child (DAC) 4. At 16, they'll recalculate her survivors benefits since I'm losing mine 5. I can work with no earnings limit since she'll be receiving benefits off her deceased father's record This doesn't sound right to me based on what I've read. I thought if my child was disabled, I could continue to receive my CIC benefits past her 16th birthday. Is this information accurate? Has anyone dealt with this specific situation before? I'm worried about losing my income when she turns 16, especially since her care needs are significant.

The representative gave you partially incorrect information. If your daughter has a documented disability, you CAN continue receiving your Child-in-Care benefits past her 16th birthday. The age limit of 16 only applies to non-disabled children. From the SSA's own policy (Section 404.350 and 404.351), a parent caring for a disabled child can receive benefits regardless of the child's age, as long as the child's disability began before age 22 and the child is entitled to child's benefits on the deceased parent's record. You should call back and speak with a different representative or ask to speak with a supervisor. Bring up these policy sections specifically and request they review your case again. SSA reps sometimes give incorrect information, especially about less common situations like disabled children's benefits.

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Thank you so much! I felt something was off with what she told me. Do you think I need to bring any specific medical documentation about my daughter's disability when I go back? Her disability is well-documented in her file, but I'm worried they might try to deny my continued benefits anyway.

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the same thing happnd to me last yr!! I got told 3 different things by 3 different ppl at SSA about my disabled son. One said benefits would stop at 16, one said 18, another said they continue. you have to keep calling until you get someone who KNOWS the rules for real. so frustrating!!!!!

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It's so frustrating! Did you eventually get it resolved? Which answer ended up being correct in your case?

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I've been through this exact scenario with my disabled daughter who's now 20. Here's what you need to know: 1. YES, you CAN continue to receive Child-in-Care benefits after your child turns 16 IF they meet SSA's definition of disability. The key is getting them to acknowledge and document the disability. 2. At 18, there will be another evaluation when they transition from child disability to adult disability standards (DAC - Disabled Adult Child). This is important because the criteria change. 3. The rep was correct about being able to work without earnings limits while your daughter receives survivors benefits. That part is accurate. 4. Request a meeting with a Technical Expert at your local office, not just any claims representative. They understand these complex cases better. Good luck and don't give up! SSA can be a maze, but persistence pays off.

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This ^^ I was going to say the same thing. Technical Experts at SSA are the way to go with complicated cases like this. Regular claims reps often don't deal with these situations enough to know all the rules.

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My son has downs and i went thru same thing. SSA told me id lose my CIC when he turned 16 and they WERE WRONG!! I kept getting my checks cuz he's disabled. Show them doctors paperwork about her condition and insist they check the POMS manual about disabled children and CIC benefits.

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Thank you for sharing! This gives me hope. I'll definitely bring her medical documentation and ask them to check that manual specifically.

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SSA employee here (not speaking officially). There's a LOT of confusion about this even among SSA staff because it's a complex area. Let me clarify: - Child-in-Care benefits normally stop when a child turns 16 - HOWEVER, if the child is disabled according to SSA standards, CIC benefits can continue indefinitely - The key is whether your daughter meets SSA's definition of disability (not just having a diagnosis) - At 18, there's a redetermination using adult disability criteria - If approved as a Disabled Adult Child (DAC), your benefits can continue You need to specifically request a determination of your daughter's disability status BEFORE she turns 16. Use the phrase "I'd like to request a childhood disability determination to establish continued entitlement to my mother's/father's benefits." Don't take no for an answer without getting this determination.

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Thank you so much for this detailed explanation! That specific phrasing is incredibly helpful. I'll make sure to use those exact words. Do you know how far in advance of her birthday I should start this process? She turns 16 in about 3 months.

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Start immediately. The disability determination process can take 3-6 months, so you want to get it initiated right away. Make sure you have recent medical records (within the last year) documenting her condition and functional limitations. The SSA will need to see how her condition affects her ability to function in daily activities and potentially work.

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This is excellent advice. And make sure to keep copies of EVERYTHING you submit to them. I can't tell you how many times SSA has "lost" important documents my clients have submitted.

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btw my cousin got told the same thing but when they actually checked the rules more carefully they found out her benefits DID continue after 16 because her son had autism. they almost cut her off by mistake!! the SSA people sometimes don't know their own rules

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One more important thing: If your daughter is receiving SSI (Supplemental Security Income) in addition to survivors benefits, different rules apply. SSI redeterminations happen at age 18 using adult criteria. Since you mentioned she'll be recalculated at 16, it sounds like she might be receiving both benefits. Make sure you're clear about which benefit types you're discussing when you call SSA.

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She's currently only receiving survivors benefits, not SSI. But that's good to know for future reference. There's so much to keep track of with all these different benefit programs!

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JUST BE PERSISTENT!!!! These SSA people will try to get you off the phone quick and sometimes give wrong info. Ask for a supervisor if you have to. I had to call like 5 times to get someone who actually knew what they were talking about for my disabled kid.

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Thank you everyone for all your helpful responses! I feel much more confident now about how to approach this. I'm going to call back tomorrow and specifically request the childhood disability determination using the exact phrasing suggested. I'll also gather all her recent medical documentation to have ready. If I have trouble getting through, I'll try that Claimyr service someone mentioned. I'll update once I get this sorted out!

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Good plan! Remember that you have appeal rights if you get an unfavorable decision. Don't give up if the first determination isn't what you expected - many cases are approved on reconsideration or at the hearing level.

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