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Will my Social Security widow benefits be different from current CIC benefits with disabled adult son?

I've been receiving Child-in-Care (CIC) benefits for almost 10 years as I care for my disabled adult son (who receives survivor benefits on his late father's record). I'm turning 62 next year and have basically no work credits of my own. I'm trying to understand what happens when I transition from CIC to widow benefits. Will my monthly payment amount change significantly? And does the timing of when I switch matter - should I wait until a certain age? The SSA representative I spoke with couldn't give me a clear answer about whether I'd get more or less by waiting. My son will continue to receive his benefits regardless, but I'm concerned about what might happen to my portion of the household income.

The key difference is that CIC benefits are a flat 75% of your deceased husband's Primary Insurance Amount (PIA), while widow benefits vary based on when you claim them. If you claim at 60, you get 71.5% of his PIA. If you wait until your Full Retirement Age (probably 67), you'd get 100% of his PIA. So yes, timing matters quite a bit! In your case, waiting until FRA could mean a 25% increase over what you're getting now. I was in a similar situation last year and found it really frustrating trying to get clear answers from SSA. After dealing with busy signals and disconnections for days, I tried Claimyr (claimyr.com) to get through to a rep. Their service connected me to SSA in about 15 minutes instead of spending hours on hold. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU. The rep I reached explained exactly how my benefits would change at different ages, which helped me make a much better decision.

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Thank you so much for explaining this! I had no idea there could be such a big difference. So if I'm understanding correctly, my CIC benefits are 75% of his PIA right now, but if I wait until I'm 67 to switch to widow benefits, I could get 100% instead? That's a huge increase! I'll definitely look into that Claimyr service - I've been trying to reach someone at SSA for weeks without luck.

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just wanna say be carefull. i think when you turn 62 the CIC benefits automattically stop. thats what happend to my sister. she didnt apply for anything else and had no income for 2 months!! make sure you apply for the widow benefits BEFORE your birthday.

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Oh no! That's scary - I had no idea they might just stop automatically. Thank you for the warning. I'll definitely make sure to apply before my birthday.

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The previous responses contain some inaccuracies I'd like to clarify. Child-in-Care widow/widower benefits don't automatically terminate when you reach 62. They terminate when you no longer have a child under 16 or disabled in your care. However, at 62, you become eligible for aged widow benefits. Here's what you need to know: 1. Your current CIC benefit is 75% of your deceased husband's Primary Insurance Amount (PIA) 2. Aged widow benefits at 60 = 71.5% of PIA 3. Each month you delay between 60 and your Full Retirement Age increases the percentage 4. At Full Retirement Age (66-67 depending on birth year) = 100% of PIA Since you've been receiving CIC benefits and have no work record of your own, waiting until your FRA to switch to aged widow benefits would be financially advantageous unless you have pressing financial needs now. The SSA should automatically evaluate your eligibility for the higher benefit when you reach FRA.

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THIS is 100% accurate, I went through EXACT same situation. SSA doesn't always explain it well but your CIC benefits DONT just stop at 62!! I kept getting mine until I switched at my full retirement age (was 66+2mo for me) and got the full 100% of my husband's benefit. Made a HUGE difference in monthly income.

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I'm actually going through this exact transition right now, and it's been so confusing! One thing no one mentioned - if you have ANY work credits of your own (even if not enough for retirement benefits), you should check if you might qualify for disabled widow benefits before 62. I thought I had zero credits but turns out I had worked enough for that specific benefit. Also, has anyone dealt with the annual earnings limit while on widow benefits? I'm thinking about working part-time but heard they reduce benefits if you earn over a certain amount before FRA.

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You're right about the earnings limit - it's an important consideration. For 2023, if you're under FRA, SSA deducts $1 from benefits for every $2 earned above $21,240. In the year you reach FRA, they deduct $1 for every $3 earned above $56,520 (but only counting earnings before the month you reach FRA). After FRA, there's no earnings limit. Regarding disabled widow benefits - yes, you only need to have 6 credits in the 3 years prior to becoming disabled, which is much lower than regular disability requirements.

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My mom went thru this last year and she got really BAD advice from the people at Social Security!!! They told her to switch right at 62 and she lost like $400 a month compared to her CIC benefits. Make SURE you understand exactly what your getting before you agree to any changes. And GET IT IN WRITING dont just trust what they tell you on the phone.

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That's terrible about your mom! I'm definitely going to be careful and get everything in writing. $400 is a huge amount to lose each month.

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anybody know if the family maximum benefit rules affect this situation? when my husband died the worker told us there was a cap on total benefits for the family and that affected what me and my kids got each month.

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Great question. Yes, Family Maximum Benefit (FMB) rules could be a factor. The FMB caps the total benefits payable on one worker's record (usually between 150-180% of the deceased worker's benefit). If multiple beneficiaries cause the total to exceed the family maximum, each person's benefit is proportionally reduced. However, when the original poster switches from CIC to aged widow benefits, this wouldn't increase the total benefits drawn on the record (assuming the disabled adult child continues receiving the same amount). It would just change the calculation method for her portion.

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Thank you everyone for the helpful information! I had no idea there was such a big difference between taking widow benefits at 62 versus waiting until my full retirement age. I've made an appointment with SSA next month, and I'm going to specifically ask for a written comparison of what I'd receive at different ages. I'll make sure they understand I'm currently on CIC benefits too. It sounds like waiting until my FRA could mean several hundred more dollars each month for the rest of my life, which would make a huge difference for us. I'll update this thread after my appointment in case it helps anyone else in a similar situation.

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Glad the information helped! Just a heads-up - those SSA appointments can be rescheduled or have long wait times. If you run into trouble closer to your appointment date, remember the Claimyr option I mentioned earlier. Good luck with everything!

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