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I'm completely baffled about Child-in-Care (CIC) benefits and need some clarity. Here's my situation: I'm 74 and currently receive my retirement benefits PLUS about 60% of that amount for my minor child. Last week, several forum members told me there's an ADDITIONAL Child-in-Care benefit I should be receiving on top of what my child already gets. However, I just spoke with an SSA agent who said something completely different: the benefit my child receives IS the CIC benefit, and there's nothing additional available. Even more confusing - the agent said if I marry my child's mother, she wouldn't qualify for any special benefits while I'm alive. And if I die, she couldn't get survivor benefits until age 60, even though she'd be caring for our minor child. But my financial advisor is telling me the exact opposite! He insists that if I marry my child's mother, she'd be immediately eligible for CIC survivor benefits if I die while our child is under 16 - NO waiting until age 60. Who's right here? The SSA agent or my financial advisor? And what's the point of calling SSA again if I might just get different information? This is so frustrating!
Hi everyone, I'm trying to figure out our retirement situation. My husband (65) and I (63) have both worked continuously since we were teenagers and have paid into Social Security our entire careers. We haven't filed for benefits yet, but we're starting to plan. When we look at our Social Security statements online, they each show an estimated benefit amount. My question is: will we each receive our full benefit amount as shown on our statements? Or is there some kind of marriage/household cap or family maximum that would reduce what we'd get? I've heard conflicting things from friends about whether married couples get their full individual benefits or if they're somehow reduced. Thanks for any insights!
I just remmbered you might still want to check if either of you qualifies for spousal benefits if one of you had much higher earnings. Sometimes its better to take 50% of your spouses benefit than your own. But you cant get both your own and spousal - they give you whichever is higher.
Thank you everyone for all the helpful information! Just to summarize what I've learned: 1) We will each get our full benefits based on our own work records, 2) There's no family maximum that applies to our situation, 3) We might want to consider staggered filing with my husband claiming now and me waiting, 4) We should double-check our benefit estimates with SSA directly. This has been incredibly helpful as we plan for retirement!
You've got a great summary there! One additional thing to consider - since you're both close to your FRAs, you might also want to look into whether either of you should delay beyond FRA to age 70 for the delayed retirement credits (8% per year). With your age gap, having one person maximize their benefit could be especially valuable for survivor benefits later. Good luck with your planning!
I'm getting ready to retire next year and trying to plan my monthly budget. Can anyone tell me exactly when Social Security deposits retirement payments each month? My neighbor says she gets hers on the 3rd Wednesday, but my brother gets his on the 2nd Wednesday. I'm confused about how they decide which day you get paid. Does it depend on your birthday or when you applied? And do direct deposits and paper checks come on different days? Thanks for clearing this up!
As someone who just went through the Social Security application process last month, I can confirm that starting the application 3-4 months early is definitely the way to go! I applied online at ssa.gov in January for benefits starting in April, and everything went smoothly. The online portal lets you save your progress if you need to gather documents, and they send email updates about your application status. One thing I learned is that you'll need your most recent tax return and W-2s, so have those ready. Also, if you've had multiple jobs over the years, it's helpful to create a my Social Security account beforehand to review your earnings record and make sure everything looks accurate. Better to catch any discrepancies before you apply rather than after! The whole process took about 6 weeks from application to approval notification.
This is really reassuring to hear from someone who just went through the process! I'm planning to apply in a few months and was wondering about the timeline. Six weeks from application to approval sounds very reasonable. The tip about creating a my Social Security account first to check your earnings record is super smart - I hadn't thought about doing that beforehand. I've definitely had a few different employers over the years, so I want to make sure everything is accurate before I submit my application. Thanks for sharing your recent experience - it helps a lot to know what to expect!
This has been such an informative discussion! I'm actually a federal employee nearing retirement and was completely unaware of how the Social Security payment schedule worked. I assumed everyone just got paid on the same day each month. The birthday-based system makes a lot of sense now that it's been explained - my birthday is on the 14th, so I'll be getting payments on the 3rd Wednesday. What really caught my attention was the mention of the free workshops at libraries and community centers. I've been putting off learning about Social Security because it seemed so overwhelming, but having an actual SSA employee walk through everything in person sounds perfect. Does anyone know how to find out when these workshops are scheduled in your area? Is there a website or do you just call local libraries? Also, I'm curious about the interaction between federal retirement (FERS) and Social Security. I know they're separate systems, but I'm wondering if anyone here has experience with receiving both and how that affects the overall retirement planning process. Thanks to everyone who's shared their knowledge - this thread should be required reading for anyone approaching retirement!
Great question about finding those SSA workshops! You can actually locate them in a few ways: 1) Visit ssa.gov and look for their "Community Events" or "Outreach Events" section where they list upcoming workshops by region, 2) Call your local Social Security office directly - they usually have a schedule of community presentations, or 3) Contact your local library or senior center as they often host these and can tell you when the next one is scheduled. Regarding FERS and Social Security - you're absolutely right that they're separate systems! The good news is that your federal service counts toward Social Security if you've been paying into it (which FERS employees do), so you can receive both your federal pension AND Social Security without any reduction to either benefit. The timing can actually work in your favor since you might be able to collect your FERS pension immediately upon retirement while delaying Social Security until age 70 to get the maximum benefit. Definitely worth discussing with a federal retirement specialist to optimize the timing!
I just lost my brother about 3 weeks ago and I'm still trying to process everything. Beyond the grief, which is overwhelming, I'm now dealing with practical matters I wasn't prepared for. He left his small house to me in his will, and I'm trying to figure out what to do with it. I don't want to live there (too many memories plus I already have my own place), so I'm considering selling it. My big concern is whether selling this property will affect my Social Security retirement benefits or my Medicare. I'm 68 and living pretty much entirely on my monthly SS check with Medicare for healthcare. Would a one-time property sale count as income that could reduce my benefits or increase my Medicare premiums? Does anyone have experience with this? I'm worried about making a financial mistake when I'm still not thinking clearly due to grief.
btw forgot to say dont wait too long to decide on the house. my friends mom waited a year when she inherited and the property taxes and maintence costs added up fast. if ur not gonna live there better to sell sooner and put the money somewhere safe
I'm so sorry for your loss, Sean. Losing a sibling is incredibly difficult, and having to deal with financial decisions while grieving makes it even harder. One thing that might help ease your concerns: you could consider getting a professional appraisal of the property done now to establish its fair market value as of your brother's date of death. This will be crucial for tax purposes and could potentially minimize any capital gains if you do decide to sell. Also, since you mentioned being on a tight budget, you might want to explore whether your state offers any property tax relief programs for seniors or inherited properties. Some states have temporary deferrals or reductions available that could help with the carrying costs while you make your decision. Take your time with this decision, but don't feel pressured to keep the property if it's causing financial stress. Your brother would want you to be financially secure.
My husband plans to delay claiming his Social Security retirement benefits until he turns 70 to maximize his monthly amount. I'm trying to figure out how this affects what I would get as a spouse. If I claim spousal benefits, will I receive 50% of his age 70 increased rate or 50% of what his benefit would have been at his full retirement age (FRA)? I've heard conflicting information from friends. Some say spousal benefits are based on the higher amount he'll get at 70, but others insist it's only based on his FRA amount regardless of when he actually claims. This makes a big difference in our retirement planning - about $800/month difference based on my calculations! I tried calling the SSA office twice but got disconnected after waiting 45 minutes each time. Has anyone dealt with this specific situation? I'm 63 now and trying to decide if I should claim on my own record now or wait and claim as a spouse when he files at 70.
I just want to echo what others have said about the importance of getting your actual Social Security statement to see your projected benefits. You can create an account at ssa.gov/myaccount and see your estimated benefits at different claiming ages right away - it's really eye-opening to see the actual numbers rather than trying to guess. One thing I learned from my own research is that the decision isn't just about maximizing monthly income, but also about managing longevity risk. If you're in good health and have family history of longevity, waiting for higher benefits (either your own with delayed credits or optimizing for survivor benefits) becomes more valuable. But if you have health concerns, claiming earlier might make more sense. Also, regarding the frustration with reaching SSA by phone - I've had better luck calling right when they open at 7 AM local time, or trying their automated services first to get basic information before needing to speak with someone. The wait times are usually shorter early in the morning. Your situation sounds very similar to what my sister went through last year, and she ended up being glad she took the time to really understand all her options before making the decision. The peace of mind that comes from knowing you made an informed choice is worth the effort of working through all these calculations.
This is such valuable advice about getting the actual Social Security statement online! I've been putting off creating that account but you're right that seeing the real numbers would be much better than estimating. The point about longevity risk is really insightful too - I hadn't thought about factoring in health and family history when making this decision. Both my parents lived into their late 80s and I'm in pretty good health, so that might tip the scales toward strategies that optimize for the long term rather than maximizing immediate income. Thanks for the tip about calling SSA early in the morning! I was calling mid-afternoon both times I got disconnected, so maybe timing really does make a difference. Even if I can get through to confirm some of the details we've discussed here, that would give me more confidence in my decision. Your mention of peace of mind really resonates with me. This whole process has felt overwhelming, but reading everyone's experiences and advice has made me realize that taking the time to understand the options thoroughly will help me feel confident about whatever choice I make. Better to spend a few weeks researching now than to have regrets later!
Thank you all for this incredibly thorough discussion! As someone new to this community, I'm amazed by how much practical knowledge has been shared here. Reading through everyone's real experiences has clarified so many misconceptions I had about Social Security planning. The key takeaway for me is that spousal benefits are definitively based on the worker's FRA amount (Primary Insurance Amount), not their age 70 enhanced benefit - this seems to be consistently confirmed by multiple people who have actually been through this process. That's disappointing from a planning perspective, but at least it removes the uncertainty. What I find most valuable is how this discussion has evolved beyond just the spousal benefit question to cover the broader strategic considerations: survivor benefits (which DO include delayed retirement credits), Medicare timing, the value of financial independence through claiming your own benefits, and the importance of comparing total lifetime benefits rather than just monthly amounts. For anyone else reading this thread, I'd especially recommend the suggestions about: 1. Getting your actual Social Security statement online at ssa.gov/myaccount 2. Creating a spreadsheet to compare different claiming scenarios 3. Considering longevity and health factors in your decision 4. Looking into local Social Security workshops for personalized guidance 5. Factoring in the "insurance" value of maximizing survivor benefits This community is such a valuable resource - thank you everyone for sharing your knowledge and experiences so generously!
Welcome to the community! I'm also relatively new here and have found this thread incredibly valuable. You've done a great job summarizing all the key insights that have come up in this discussion. As someone who's been trying to navigate these decisions for my own family, what strikes me most is how this conversation shows the importance of looking at Social Security as part of a comprehensive retirement strategy rather than just focusing on maximizing one specific benefit. The interplay between spousal benefits, survivor benefits, Medicare timing, and your own work history creates so many variables to consider. I particularly appreciate how several community members shared their actual experiences rather than just theoretical advice. Hearing from people like Carmen who learned "the hard way" about spousal benefits being based on FRA amounts, or Mia who went through this exact decision process last year, makes the information feel much more trustworthy than generic online resources. Your checklist of recommendations is really helpful - I'm definitely going to start with getting my Social Security statement online and creating that comparison spreadsheet. The point about considering this as "insurance" for the surviving spouse really reframes the whole decision in a way that makes the complexity feel more worthwhile to work through carefully. Thanks for pulling together such a clear summary of the discussion - it'll be a great reference as I work through my own planning!
Melissa Lin
I forgot to mention - make sure you get any information in WRITING from SSA. They have a process where they can send you an official Benefits Statement that outlines what everyone is eligible for. That way you have documentation in case there's confusion later.
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Sunny Wang
THIS!!!! Get EVERYTHING in writing!!! I learned this the hard way when they told me one thing over phone and something else at the office. Always ask for written confirmation of whatever they tell you!!!
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CosmicCadet
As someone who's navigated similar SSA confusion, I'd recommend being very specific with terminology when you call back. Ask specifically about "mother's benefits under Section 202(g)" - that's the official code for what happens when a surviving spouse cares for a child under 16. Also, don't just ask one question - walk through the entire scenario: "If I marry my child's mother and then pass away while our child is under 16, would she be eligible for mother's benefits immediately?" This forces them to think through the complete situation rather than giving you a partial answer. The key point everyone's making is correct - your financial advisor knows what he's talking about regarding survivor benefits. The SSA rep was probably only thinking about current benefits while you're alive (where there wouldn't be additional spouse benefits unless she qualifies based on age).
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