Can I collect full Social Security benefits with 40 credits while also receiving TRS pension after WEP repeal?
Hi everyone, I've been trying to figure out my retirement situation with these recent WEP changes. I've earned 40 credits with Social Security from working in the private sector, plus I have 18 years in the Teacher Retirement System (TRS) and have met the Rule of 80 for TRS (age + years of service). With this new legislation repealing the Windfall Elimination Provision, am I understanding correctly that I can now receive my FULL Social Security benefit without any reduction, plus receive my full TRS pension? I've heard so many conflicting things about this and the SSA website isn't very clear. Has anyone else in a similar situation received clarification from an SSA rep? Thanks for any help!
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Liam Fitzgerald
Yes, that's correct! With the recent WEP repeal that was signed into law, you'll be eligible to receive your full Social Security retirement benefit based on your earnings record WITHOUT any reduction due to your TRS pension. This is a major change for people like you who worked in both covered (paying into SS) and non-covered (state pension) employment. The law gradually phases out WEP reductions over 9 years starting in 2025, with a complete elimination by 2033. You'll still need to wait until your Full Retirement Age (FRA) for your full SS benefit, but the WEP penalty won't apply anymore. However, be aware that the Government Pension Offset (GPO) that affects Social Security spousal/survivor benefits is still in place - that's a different provision.
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Mei Wong
AuthorThank you so much! This is exactly what I needed to know. I was planning to retire at my FRA for SS anyway. So to be clear, I'll get 100% of what my SS statement says I'm entitled to, PLUS my TRS pension? That seems almost too good to be true after hearing about WEP for so many years!
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PixelWarrior
wait i thought the wep repeal was still being debated??? did i miss something?? my husband has a similar situation with 25 years state police and 15 years at a factory. we've been planning for the WEP reduction forever
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Liam Fitzgerald
The Social Security Fairness Act was signed into law recently as part of the comprehensive retirement legislation package. It includes a gradual phase-out of WEP over 9 years. Starting in 2025, the WEP reduction will start decreasing each year until it's completely eliminated in 2033. Your husband will see incremental increases in his SS benefit during this period if he's already receiving benefits. If he hasn't filed yet, he'll still see a partial WEP reduction until the phase-out is complete, but it will be less severe each year.
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Amara Adebayo
I'm in a nearly identical situation - 42 SS credits and 20 years with TRS in Texas. I actually called the SSA about this last week because I couldn't believe it either. Spent THREE HOURS on hold only to be told that they "don't have official guidance yet" on implementing the new law. The agent couldn't even tell me when they'd have clear instructions! They just said to "check back later this year." So frustrating! Have you had any luck getting through to anyone who actually knows what they're talking about?
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Giovanni Rossi
I had the same experience trying to get information about my disability benefits last month - 2.5 hours on hold only to get disconnected! I eventually used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me through to an SSA agent in under 10 minutes. They have a video showing how it works at https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU. Saved me hours of frustration and the agent I spoke with was able to explain my situation clearly. Might be worth trying if you need answers before the SSA updates their website with the WEP repeal guidelines.
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Fatima Al-Mansour
My cousin works for SSA and she told me they're still figuring out how to implement all of this. The systems need to be updated and they need to train all the agents. Plus theres gonna be THOUSANDS of people calling about this so expect delays! Just be patient
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Mei Wong
AuthorThat makes sense, but it's still frustrating. I'm trying to finalize my retirement planning and it makes a huge difference whether I get my full SS benefit or a reduced one. I guess I'll just have to check back regularly.
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Dylan Evans
I work as a benefits counselor specialized in teacher retirement systems, and I want to clarify some important details about the WEP repeal that might help you: 1. The repeal is genuine - the Social Security Fairness Act eliminates the WEP penalty gradually over 9 years. 2. For 2025, you'll see approximately a 10% restoration of your previously reduced benefit, with additional restoration each year until 2033. 3. During the transition period, SSA will calculate your benefit two ways - the pre-repeal method with WEP reduction and the post-repeal method without WEP. Then they'll apply the phase-in percentage to determine your actual benefit. 4. You DO qualify based on your 40 SS credits (the minimum needed is 40). 5. Your TRS pension will be paid completely separately and won't affect your SS amount once WEP is fully repealed. 6. IMPORTANT: While WEP is being repealed, the Government Pension Offset (GPO) remains in effect. GPO affects spousal/survivor benefits, not your own retirement benefit. I recommend documenting your earnings history from both systems now, as there may be confusion during implementation. SSA will need to recalculate benefits for millions of retirees affected by this change.
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Mei Wong
AuthorThis is incredibly helpful information, thank you! I'll definitely gather my earnings statements from both SS and TRS. Do you think I should wait until the phase-in begins to file for my SS benefits, or would it be better to file at my FRA and then let them adjust my benefit as the WEP phases out? I turn 66 and 8 months (my FRA) in July 2025.
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Dylan Evans
For someone turning FRA in July 2025 like you, I would recommend waiting until at least August or September 2025 to file. This gives SSA time to implement the first phase of the WEP reduction and update their systems. Filing right when the changes begin could put you in a situation where your initial calculation is incorrect and you'll need to request a recalculation later. Also, each month you delay beyond FRA increases your benefit by 2/3 of 1% (8% per year), so waiting even 3-4 months gives you a slight permanent increase anyway. However, I wouldn't recommend waiting beyond early 2026 since you'd be missing out on payments during a period when the WEP reduction has already begun to phase out.
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PixelWarrior
what about those of us already getting benefits with the WEP reduction?? do we have to reapply or will SSA automatically increase our payments starting in 2025??
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Dylan Evans
For current beneficiaries already receiving reduced benefits due to WEP, the SSA will automatically recalculate and adjust your monthly payment. You won't need to reapply or file any special forms. However, given the complexity of implementing this massive change affecting millions of beneficiaries, it would be prudent to monitor your benefit amounts starting in early 2025 to ensure the increases are correctly applied. If you don't see an increase by March or April 2025, I'd recommend contacting SSA for clarification.
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Amara Adebayo
Does anyone know if the SSA will send out notices about these changes to people affected by WEP? I'm already retired with both SS and TRS benefits, and I'm concerned they might miss adjusting my benefit since I've been getting the reduced amount for 3 years now.
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Sofia Gomez
YOU PEOPLE ARE ALL DREAMING if you think the government is actually going to give us our RIGHTFULLY EARNED money without a fight!!! I've been dealing with the WEP nightmare for 12 YEARS now after teaching for 22 years and working construction for 15. They've been STEALING our money with this unfair penalty and now they'll find some OTHER way to keep it from us. MARK MY WORDS - there will be some "technical issue" or "implementation delay" that pushes this off forever. I'll believe it when I see the money in my account!!!
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Mei Wong
AuthorI understand your frustration, but the law has been passed. I'm trying to remain optimistic that they'll implement it as written, even if there are some delays in the process. We've waited this long, so a bit longer for proper implementation seems reasonable.
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PixelWarrior
my sister-in-law got hit by both WEP and GPO. shes a retired teacher but also widowed. they reduced her SS retirement from her own work AND cut her widow benefits by 2/3 because of her teacher pension. the GPO is still staying even with this new law so she only gets help with the WEP part. seems unfair they didn't fix both!
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Liam Fitzgerald
You're absolutely right that GPO remains in effect and continues to impact survivor and spousal benefits. Many advocacy groups are still pushing for GPO repeal as well, but it wasn't included in this legislation. The financial impact of repealing both provisions simultaneously was likely too great for budget negotiations. However, the WEP repeal is still significant progress and helps millions of public servants receive their earned benefits. Hopefully, GPO reform will be addressed in future legislation.
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Mei Wong
Thanks everyone for all this information! Just to clarify my situation a bit more - I'll be turning 66 and 8 months (my FRA) in July 2025, which happens to be right when the WEP repeal starts phasing in. Based on the advice here, I think I'll plan to delay filing for SS until September or October 2025 to give SSA time to implement the changes and to get that little boost for delaying. I won't delay too long though since the WEP will only be partially phased out initially. My TRS pension will start earlier since I've already met the Rule of 80. I really appreciate everyone's insights!
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Fatima Al-Mansour
Good plan! My dad was in a similar situation (police pension + SS) and the calculations are super complicated. Definitely keep all your paperwork handy and expect to have to explain your situation multiple times to different SSA people lol
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Jade Santiago
As someone who's been navigating federal benefits for years, I wanted to add that it's really important to keep detailed records during this transition period. I'd recommend creating a folder with: 1) Your most recent SS statement showing your projected benefits, 2) Documentation of your TRS service years and pension calculation, 3) Any correspondence you receive from SSA about WEP changes. Also, consider setting up a my Social Security account online if you haven't already - they'll likely post updates there first. The timing advice about waiting until fall 2025 to file sounds very smart given the implementation challenges they're facing. This is such a huge win for educators and public servants who've been unfairly penalized for decades!
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