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Will Social Security make me pay back benefits if I return to work and exceed earnings limit?

I'm 63 and started collecting Social Security early about 8 months ago. Now I've got a job offer that's too good to pass up, but it would definitely put me way over the annual earnings limit. I'm confused about what happens next - do I have to pay back ALL the SS benefits I've already received this year? Or does SSA just stop my payments until I fully retire again? And when I do retire for good, will my benefits automatically restart at the same amount, or do I need to reapply? I can't seem to get a straight answer from the SSA website and the phone wait times are insane. Would really appreciate hearing from anyone who's been in this situation!

You don't have to pay back everything you've received so far. What happens is SSA will withhold benefits once you go over the earnings limit ($21,240 for 2025 if you're under FRA). For every $2 you earn above that limit, they withhold $1 in benefits. They typically adjust by stopping your monthly payments until the withholding amount is satisfied, rather than asking for money back directly. When you reach Full Retirement Age, the earnings test disappears completely and your benefit will be recalculated to give you credit for the months benefits were withheld. So you actually aren't permanently losing those benefits - they get factored back in later.

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Thank you so much for this clear explanation! So if my new job would put me at about $45,000 this year, that's roughly $24,000 over the limit. So they'd withhold about $12,000 in benefits? That would be like 8-9 months of no payments for me. Does this affect my Medicare too or just the SS payment?

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my sister had this EXACT issue last year!!! she started ss at 62 then went back to work after 6 months. they STOPPED her payments for almost the whole year once she reported her income. they didn't make her pay anything back tho. but its sooooo confusing, she got a letter with all these calculations she didnt understand at all

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Yes, those benefit adjustment letters can be very confusing! The calculations show how they determine the withholding amount based on your projected earnings. It's always good to keep those letters for your records, even if they're hard to understand, because sometimes SSA makes mistakes in their calculations.

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Just to add a bit more technical detail - this is called the Retirement Earnings Test (RET). Something important to know is that during the first year you claim benefits, SSA applies a monthly earnings test rather than annual. So if you start work mid-year, they'll only withhold benefits for months where your earnings exceed $1,770 (for 2025). Also, the year you reach Full Retirement Age has a much higher limit ($56,520 in 2025) and they only withhold $1 for every $3 over the limit. And this only counts earnings before the month you reach FRA. When your benefits resume after you fully retire, you don't need to reapply. They should restart automatically, and your benefit will eventually be recalculated to account for the months benefits were withheld.

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This is really helpful information, especially about the monthly test in the first year. My FRA is 67, so I've still got several years before I hit that milestone. If I take this job, I'll make sure to report my expected earnings to SSA right away so they can adjust things properly instead of creating an overpayment situation.

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I went through this nightmare last year. The worst part is TRYING TO CONTACT SSA to report your earnings! I spent WEEKS trying to get through on the phone. Always busy or disconnected after waiting an hour! I finally used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to an agent in about 20 minutes instead of waiting for hours or getting disconnected. There's a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU Totally worth it because I needed to report my earnings change ASAP to avoid an overpayment. The agent walked me through exactly how much would be withheld and when my payments would stop/restart.

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omg thank u for sharing this!!! i need to call about my husbands disability review and ive been putting it off bc the phone thing is IMPOSSIBLE. gonna check this out!

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I'm sorry but this is WRONG information!!! My brother had to PAY BACK everything when he went back to work! Social Security sent him a bill for $8,400 and garnished his tax refund when he couldn't pay it all back. The system is RIGGED against workers!

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There's a difference between normal benefit adjustments and overpayments. If your brother didn't report his work activity promptly, SSA may have continued paying benefits he wasn't eligible for, creating an overpayment that had to be repaid. That's different from the standard earnings test withholding, which is applied going forward once you report work activity. Also, if he was receiving SSDI (disability) rather than retirement benefits, different rules apply - SSDI has Trial Work Periods and different reporting requirements than retirement benefits.

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Does anyone know if you can just not report the income? My cousin works cash jobs and never tells SS anything and still gets his check...

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That is absolutely not advisable and potentially fraud. SSA receives earnings reports from the IRS, so they will eventually discover unreported income from legitimate employers. When they do, they'll assess overpayments with potential penalties. Your cousin might face serious consequences including felony charges if SSA determines there was intentional fraud.

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One thing I didn't see mentioned - you might want to check if your new employer offers any benefits that would be considered "special payments" by SSA. Things like bonuses, accumulated vacation pay, or severance from a previous job aren't counted toward the earnings test limit if they're for work performed before you started receiving Social Security. You need to explain this to SSA though or they might count it against you.

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That's a great point I hadn't considered. The new job does include a signing bonus and I'll have some accrued vacation from my previous position that will be paid out. I'll make sure to mention this specifically when I contact SSA.

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just wondering but can you just suspend ur ss benefits voluntary before u start working? my uncle did that i think instead of dealing with the whole earnings test thing

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Yes, that's a good strategy some people use. You can voluntarily suspend benefits when you return to work and then restart them when you fully retire. If you're between 62 and FRA, this approach can avoid the hassle of the earnings test calculations. One advantage is that when you restart benefits later, you'll get a slightly higher amount due to delayed retirement credits for the suspension period. You can request suspension by contacting SSA in writing or by phone.

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Thank you all for the helpful answers! I'm going to report my expected income to SSA as soon as I accept the job offer. Based on what everyone has shared, it sounds like they'll probably stop my benefits for the rest of this year, but I won't have to pay back what I've already received (as long as I report promptly). And it's good to know my benefits will automatically restart when I fully retire, with some adjustment for the months they were withheld. The monthly earnings test in the first year might help me too since I'd be starting mid-year. Definitely feeling less anxious about this decision now!

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Great decision to report your income promptly! Just wanted to add that you should also keep detailed records of your earnings throughout the year in case SSA needs documentation later. I'd recommend saving pay stubs and any correspondence with SSA about your work activity. Also, if your income varies month to month, you can update your earnings estimate with SSA if it changes significantly from what you initially reported. This helps avoid surprises at year-end when they do the final calculations. Good luck with the new job!

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This is such solid advice! I'm new to navigating Social Security but went through something similar with unemployment benefits a few years back - having all your documentation organized makes such a huge difference if there are any questions or discrepancies later. One thing I learned is to also keep a simple spreadsheet or log of when you contact SSA and what you discussed, especially if you have to call multiple times. It really helps when different agents give you different information (which seems to happen a lot with government agencies). Thanks for sharing this practical tip!

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As someone who's helped family members navigate this exact situation, I want to emphasize something that wasn't mentioned - make sure you understand the difference between "gross" and "net" earnings for the earnings test. SSA counts your gross wages (before taxes and deductions), not your take-home pay. So if your job offer is $45,000 gross, that's what counts toward the limit, even if your actual paycheck is much less after taxes, health insurance, 401k contributions, etc. Also, if you're paid salary, SSA will typically divide your annual salary by 12 to determine monthly earnings, but if you have variable income (commissions, overtime, bonuses), they might look at it differently. Just something to clarify when you call them. The documentation advice from others here is spot-on - I'd also suggest asking SSA to send you written confirmation of any changes they make to your benefits so you have it for your records.

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This is really important information about gross vs net earnings - I definitely would have made that mistake! I was thinking about my take-home pay when doing the math, but you're right that SSA looks at the full gross amount. That actually changes my calculations quite a bit. The written confirmation tip is also really smart - I've heard too many stories about people getting different information from different SSA representatives. I'll make sure to request everything in writing when I contact them. Thanks for taking the time to share these details from your family's experience!

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Just want to add another perspective as someone who went through this process about 3 years ago. One thing that really helped me was creating a simple timeline of when to contact SSA at different stages. I called them: 1) As soon as I accepted the job offer to report expected earnings, 2) After my first paycheck to confirm the actual amounts matched my estimate, and 3) At the end of the year to verify their final calculations. Each time I kept notes on the date, who I spoke with, and what they told me. This saved me so much confusion later because I had a clear record of what was discussed. Also, don't be surprised if the first agent you speak with seems unsure about the details - I found that asking to speak with someone who specializes in retirement earnings issues got me much more accurate information. The whole process was way less stressful than I expected once I got organized about it!

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This timeline approach is brilliant! I'm definitely going to follow this structure - it takes all the guesswork out of when to contact them and what to discuss. The tip about asking for someone who specializes in retirement earnings is particularly valuable. I've had experiences with other government agencies where the first person I spoke with wasn't familiar with the specific rules, and it caused a lot of confusion later. Having that clear documentation trail will give me so much peace of mind throughout this process. Really appreciate you sharing your step-by-step experience!

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As someone who recently navigated a similar situation, I want to add that timing can be really important when you report your expected earnings to SSA. If you're starting work mid-year, they'll use the monthly earnings test for the remaining months of that first year, which can work in your favor. One thing I learned is to be as accurate as possible with your earnings estimate - if you underestimate and they have to adjust later, it can create complications. Also, keep in mind that if your job has any irregular pay patterns (like quarterly bonuses or seasonal overtime), mention that upfront so they can factor it into their calculations properly. The good news is that once you get through the initial reporting and adjustment period, the system works pretty smoothly. And as others mentioned, those withheld benefits aren't lost forever - they get credited back when you reach full retirement age. Just make sure to keep all your documentation organized from the start!

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Thank you for sharing your experience! The timing aspect is something I hadn't fully considered - starting mid-year could definitely work in my favor with the monthly earnings test. Your point about being accurate with earnings estimates is well taken too. I'd rather overestimate slightly than create complications later with underestimating. The job does have a quarterly bonus structure, so I'll make sure to mention that when I call SSA so they can factor it into their projections. It's really reassuring to hear that the system works smoothly once you get through the initial setup, and knowing that the withheld benefits will eventually be credited back makes this decision much easier. I'm feeling much more confident about moving forward with proper documentation and reporting from day one!

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I'm dealing with a very similar situation right now - 64 and considering going back to work after starting SS benefits last year. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful! I had no idea about the monthly earnings test for the first year or that the withheld benefits get credited back at full retirement age. One question I haven't seen addressed - does anyone know how this affects spousal benefits? My wife is 61 and planning to claim spousal benefits when she turns 62. Will my return to work and the earnings test impact her potential spousal benefits at all, or are those calculated separately? I want to make sure I understand the full picture before making any decisions. Also, huge thanks to everyone who shared their experiences and tips about documentation and dealing with SSA - this thread is a goldmine of practical advice!

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Great question about spousal benefits! From what I understand, your wife's spousal benefits would be calculated based on your Primary Insurance Amount (PIA), which is your benefit at full retirement age before any reductions or increases. The earnings test that affects your current benefits shouldn't impact her spousal benefit calculation since that's based on your underlying benefit amount, not what you're actually receiving month to month. However, I'd definitely recommend confirming this with SSA when you call about your own situation, since spousal benefits can have their own complexities depending on when she claims and her work history. It's always better to get the official word on how these different benefit types interact. And I agree - this thread has been incredibly informative for anyone navigating these situations!

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This has been such a comprehensive and helpful discussion! I'm in a similar boat at 65 - took early retirement benefits and now considering a part-time consulting opportunity. What I'm gathering from everyone's experiences is that the key is being proactive and transparent with SSA from the start. One thing I wanted to add for anyone else reading this - if you're close to your Full Retirement Age like I am, it might be worth running the numbers to see if voluntary suspension (as mentioned earlier) makes more sense than dealing with the earnings test. Since I'm just two years from FRA, the delayed retirement credits from suspension could actually increase my eventual benefit amount more than trying to navigate the earnings test calculations. Also, for those dealing with SSA phone wait times, I've found that calling first thing in the morning (right when they open) or later in the afternoon tends to have shorter holds than mid-day. Not a magic solution, but it's helped me get through faster. Thanks to everyone who shared their real-world experiences - it's so much more valuable than trying to decode the SSA website alone!

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This is such valuable advice about voluntary suspension being potentially better than the earnings test when you're close to FRA! I hadn't really considered the math on delayed retirement credits vs. dealing with all the earnings test calculations and paperwork. At 63, I've got 4 years until my FRA, so the earnings test route probably makes more sense for me, but for someone in your position, suspension could definitely be the smarter financial move. Your tip about calling SSA early morning or late afternoon is gold - I'll definitely try that timing when I need to contact them. I've been dreading those phone calls based on what I've heard about wait times, so any strategy to minimize that is much appreciated. This whole thread has been like getting a masterclass in Social Security strategy from people who've actually lived through it. Thanks for adding your perspective on the suspension option!

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I'm so glad I found this discussion! I'm 62 and have been receiving SS benefits for about 6 months, but I just got offered a remote position that would put me over the earnings limit. Reading everyone's experiences has been incredibly reassuring - I was terrified I'd have to pay back everything I've received so far. The information about the monthly earnings test for the first year is particularly helpful since I'd be starting work in the middle of the year. And knowing that the withheld benefits eventually get credited back at FRA makes this much less scary. I'm definitely going to follow the advice about keeping detailed records and getting everything in writing from SSA. One quick question - has anyone dealt with this situation while living in a different state than where they originally applied for benefits? I'm wondering if that adds any complications to the reporting process or if everything can still be handled over the phone. Thanks again to everyone for sharing such detailed and practical advice!

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Great question about living in a different state! I can share some insight on this since I moved from California to Arizona after I started receiving benefits. The good news is that everything can absolutely be handled over the phone - SSA's system is national, so it doesn't matter which state you're in when you need to report changes or updates. When you call, they'll verify your identity using your Social Security number and some basic information, and then you can report your expected earnings just like anyone else. The only thing to keep in mind is that if you moved recently and haven't updated your address with SSA yet, you'll want to do that at the same time you report your work activity. This ensures all correspondence goes to the right place. Also, since you mentioned it's a remote position, just make sure you're clear about which state you're actually working in for tax purposes when you speak with SSA - though for the earnings test itself, the location doesn't really matter, just the total income amount. You've got this! The hardest part is making that initial call, but once you get through to someone, the process is pretty straightforward.

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This entire thread has been incredibly valuable - thank you everyone for sharing your real experiences! As someone who works in benefits administration (though not for SSA), I wanted to add one more practical tip that I've seen help people: when you call SSA to report your expected earnings, ask them to calculate and tell you exactly when they expect your benefits to stop and when they might resume based on your projected income. Getting those specific dates upfront helps with budgeting and financial planning. Also, if your income ends up being different than projected (higher or lower), call them again to update - it's much easier to adjust projections mid-year than to deal with over/underpayments at year-end. One last thing - if you're working for a large employer, their HR department might have experience with employees in similar situations and could provide guidance on timing your start date or structuring compensation to minimize complications with the earnings test. Worth asking!

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This thread has been absolutely incredible - so much practical wisdom from people who've actually navigated this situation! I'm bookmarking this entire discussion. One small addition based on my experience helping my parents with Social Security issues: if you do end up needing to call SSA multiple times throughout this process, consider asking each representative for their direct extension or employee ID number (if they provide it). While you can't always get the same person, having that information can sometimes help if you need to reference a previous conversation or if there are discrepancies in what different agents tell you. Also, for anyone dealing with this situation who might have hearing difficulties or prefer written communication, SSA does accept written correspondence for reporting earnings changes. You can mail or fax documentation to your local SSA office - it takes longer than a phone call, but some people find it less stressful and it automatically creates a paper trail. The collective knowledge shared here is so much more helpful than anything I've found on the official SSA website. Really appreciate everyone taking the time to share their experiences and help others navigate this complex system!

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